Re: Call for testing empathy
IRC has been supported for while. You need telepathy-idle installed On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Bryan Quigley gqu...@gmail.com wrote: Did they add IRC support? We really want to have an IRC client by default (Pidgin is one). On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Danny Piccirillo danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com wrote: Intrepid+1 approaches-- is it too late to reconsider Empathy for inclusion? I just tried the newest version of Empathy and things look a lot better! File transfers now work and it picks up my webcam/mic! On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laurent Bigonville wrote on 08/08/08 21:12: ... Empathy[1] will be part of the upcoming GNOME 2.24 desktop. The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for intrepid as default IM client. If you are running intrepid, please give empathy a test and report bugs to launchpad[2]. ... To help in this decision, I have evaluated the usability of Empathy and Pidgin, and written up my findings. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability In summary, I suggest that Ubuntu continue using Pidgin by default for Intrepid, and that we reconsider Empathy for Intrepid+1. Empathy currently does a couple of big things Pidgin does not (audio and video chat), and handles one big feature much better than Pidgin (chat logging). But I found most features were more obvious in Pidgin, especially account setup, which is important for anyone who will start using IM in Intrepid. (And people who were already using either Empathy or Pidgin in a previous version of Ubuntu will continue using the same program in Intrepid anyway, regardless of our decision.) I found dozens of small learnability and efficiency problems in both programs, and I have not yet had time to report them all as bugs. If anyone would like to help out with this, especially in finding bugs that have already been reported, I'd greatly appreciate it. (Wherever the wiki page says (), it needs a link to a bug report.) Cheers - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrJIj6PUxNfU6ecoRAgHOAKCMNPqz15lfIkvKSlOhvkhpDdcy3ACgueHC DX06VJtu0JXEZHeibFY4gA8= =9uzC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desk...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desk...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 02:40:51PM -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote: Colin Watson wrote: ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily builds. I'm looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to ext4 for years. I could do an install from scratch, but I'm hoping that I can upgrade my existing ext3 to ext4 as you can going from ext2 to ext3. Yes, as the end of http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto says: To convert an existing ext3 filesystem to use ext4, use the command $ tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/DEV WARNING: Once you run this command, the filesystem will no longer be mountable using the ext3 filesystem! After running this command, you MUST run fsck: $ fsck -pf /dev/DEV NOTE: by doing so, new files will be created in extents format, but this will not convert existing files. However, they can be transparently read by Ext4. WARNING: It is NOT recommended to resize the inodes using resize2fs, as this is known to corrupt some filesystems. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mimicking Ubuntu's build robots
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 17:17 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: Am 09.01.2009 um 02:22 schrieb James Westby: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 01:26 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: Hello all, in an attempt to get some insight about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnustep-base/+bug/245981 [...] So my question is: how would I best mimick Ubuntu's build machinery? Probably a virtual machine, to allow building i386 on an AMD64 host, but which type of installation, what else? [...] There are local copies of the DTDs in the source package, the one it probably wants is ./Tools/gsdoc-1_0_3.dtd, but it is apparently searching for a file ending in .xml, and from what I can see only adds user, system and network locations to the search path, though the intent of -HeaderDirectory ../Tools may be to do this. So you mean I have three (Matt's, your's, Mine) patch recommendations now, but there is no way to actually test such a patch without commiting it to Ubuntu's public repo's? I'm used to provide tested patches only, so I hope this isn't true. You can apply the patch and test build the documentation directly, temporarily disabling your network. You can try building the whole package with your network disabled, which should build Arch: all packages on amd64 I believe. You can push it to a PPA which has a very similar environment to the buildds. You can build a source package with the proposed change and jump on #ubuntu-motu and ask for someone to test build without network access for you, or indeed ask here. You can provide the patch and explain that it's not tested, and give instructions on how a sponsor can check that it will work correctly. If the worst comes to the worst we can just upload it to the archive, another build failure isn't a big problem, but as you can see there are plenty of options until we reach that point. Thanks, James -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mimicking Ubuntu's build robots
Am 09.01.2009 um 17:39 schrieb James Westby: You can [...] You can [...] You can [...] Wow, there are plenty of options. Thanks a lot. I didn't recognize a PPA has a build machinery, yet, and will try that path. Thanks James, Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss