Re: Internet-Teenagers and what Ubuntu can do.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vasilis Kalintiris wrote on 28/01/09 03:31: ... I believe that it would be very nice to offer the ability to parents to monitor theirs children activity on PCs in a simple and easy way. After all Ubuntu is a distribution that offers simplicity and out-of-the-box experience to its end users. For example we could provide a package with: 1) An advanced keylogger 2) A report system about the activity of the user (aka child-teen) 3) Restricted access to hardcore material 4) Logs from Pidgin and other common chat programs 5) Irregular - Suspicious filesystem activity notification (hidden folders) ... This is one area in which Ubuntu is much less flexible than Windows and Mac OS X. As you may have realized from the other replies, the sort of people who gravitate toward Free Software projects usually think parental controls are either too difficult to implement, or a bad idea, or both. You can see similar viewpoints on Brainstorm. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1244/ The unreliability of blacklist-style Web filtering also clouds discussion of other parental control mechanisms, such as whitelist e-mail or IM filtering, time limits, or easy-to-read logs. (For example, in this thread Brian Curtis recommends that parents check out the logs provided in /var/log, without explaining how on earth they would know how to do that.) I suggest instead taking up this issue with the companies that sell computers with Ubuntu on it. If enough customers demand parental control features, those companies may invest in implementing them, precisely because they know volunteers won't. Ubuntu Christian Edition http://ubuntuce.com/ and Ubuntu Muslim Edition http://ubuntume.com/ both include built-in configuration interfaces for Web filtering. But that's only a small subset (and the least reliable subset) of what you're looking for, the interfaces are rather awkward, and the rest of those systems may not be to your taste. Cheers - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmBntMACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecpYfACcCQ+54Uemff6s3NQMUmVErBCx bkoAoNLv2aq6wM4uz9QsTxgaeBMWRaGe =XEEK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: hwclock delaying boot...
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18:09AM +, Daniel J Blueman wrote: Boot-charting jaunty-A3 [1] on my SSD system, we see both the 'hwclockfirst.sh' and 'hwclock.sh' init scripts invoke 'hwclock --hctosys --utc', being significant on the map. The two scripts are debian/ubuntu specific, and yes they both need to be there. There are a series of long discussions centering around when we removed one of them. lamont -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Internet-Teenagers and what Ubuntu can do.
Am 29.01.2009 um 13:19 schrieb Matthew Paul Thomas: I suggest instead taking up this issue with the companies that sell computers with Ubuntu on it. If enough customers demand parental control features, those companies may invest in implementing them, precisely because they know volunteers won't. This is a good idea. One of the most fundamental ideas of free open source software is to _avoid_ artifical barriers, after all. MarKus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
updated package from upstream questions...
Where there is no updated package pre-built in debian experimental, what's the process to take upstream code and contribute a proposed package? Also, how can we share this with Debian to reduce duplication? A good candidate example is dcraw 8.90, since 8.86 has subtly broken colour transformation for some popular SLR cameras, such as the Nikon D90; I realised this after processing too many pictures. This is what I see so far: 1. apt-get source the current version 2. import updated upstream source 3. apply existing debdiff hunks against this 4. add entry to debian/changelog 5. generate updated debdiff After, who do we send the updated debdiff - the package 'maintainer' field? Is the canonical place where this is stored, the archives or where? Any package maintainer or MOTU/ubuntu developer would follow the exact same steps, as someone else or not? Thanks for any feedback on these questions! Daniel --- [1] http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/dcraw.c -- Daniel J Blueman -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Internet-Teenagers and what Ubuntu can do.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Andrew Sayers andrew-ubuntu-de...@pileofstuff.org wrote: To be honest, I never really understood the focus on technological solutions to this problem. The user being monitored will always try to fight their way out of the box, and will often succeed (e.g. by downloading a live CD and using that). Children are hackers. Every user who faces a barrier to what they want to do becomes a hacker. QUICKLY. It's what we're good at. The difference between a man and an animal is every generation of man can advance based on new information generated by the previous generation-- i.e. generational learning. To think that a machine could stop the collective power of hundreds of millions of bored teenager with raging puberty hormones searching for videos of hot laschavious sex is misguided at best. There's no real way to stop kids cold from doing anything. The correct solution is for parents to actually communicate with their kids and try to educate them; again, humans are extremely adept at generational learning, and passing on your knowledge to your kids is probably the only real way to make them make good decisions (you might not necessairly agree with their decisions, but at least they won't be the worst possible ideas any person could have). -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
