Re: dynamic executables ?
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 15:57 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: 2009/4/22 Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.it: Il giorno mer, 22/04/2009 alle 15.19 +0100, richard ha scritto: richar...@richard-g8jvm:~/eagle-5.5.0/bin$ ldd ./eagle not a dynamic executable The output from file eagle? Assuming it's eagle the circuit board design software, then eagle is not an executable but a shell script. a...@hactar:/usr/bin$ file eagle eagle: POSIX shell script text executable Which then calls /usr/lib/eagle/bin/eagle And applies to the default version. Richard has installed eagle 5.5 in his home directory. Having downloaded the linux installer for version 5.5, and run it (on 64-bit ubuntu jaunty x86_64), I have t...@zaphod:~$ ls -l eagle-5.5.0/bin total 13044 -rwxr-xr-x 1 tim tim 11473300 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim41639 2008-07-01 15:01 eagle.def -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 717572 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle_de.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 310429 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle_de.qm -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 645458 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle_en.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 718 2008-04-21 15:00 eagleicon16.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 2924 2008-04-21 15:00 eagleicon50.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 1946 2009-04-23 18:36 eagle.key -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 4110 2008-04-21 15:00 freeware.key -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 1768 2008-04-21 15:00 platforms-lin.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 1907 2008-04-21 15:00 platforms-mac.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 2019 2008-04-21 15:00 platforms-win.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim88118 2009-04-14 15:05 qt_de.qm t...@zaphod:~$ file eagle-5.5.0/bin/eagle eagle-5.5.0/bin/eagle: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped t...@zaphod:~$ cd eagle-5.5.0/bin t...@zaphod:~/eagle-5.5.0/bin$ file * eagle: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped eagle.def: ASCII English text eagle_de.htm: HTML document text eagle_de.qm: data eagle_en.htm: HTML document text eagleicon16.png: PNG image, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced eagleicon50.png: PNG image, 48 x 48, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced eagle.key: data freeware.key: ASCII English text platforms-lin.png: PNG image, 39 x 39, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced platforms-mac.png: PNG image, 39 x 39, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced platforms-win.png: PNG image, 39 x 39, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced qt_de.qm: data Which looks fine. Richard, what platform are you running ubuntu on (and which ubuntu release)? which installer did you use (based on the contents of~/eagle-5.5.0/bin as reported, I assume that you used the linux installer)? In most cases,the assumption is that linux == 32-bit intel platform while there are distributions that support PPC and other platforms. Cheers, Al. Tim -- Tim Frost timfr...@xtra.co.nz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: bug #114521: No help or documentation available for Ubuntu installer
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Stewart Johnston s...@stooj.co.uk wrote: Bug #11452 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/11452 ) is a release-specific bug for warty, so I wouldn't imagine it to be worth your while. Perhaps you meant a different bug? Paste a link into the email for lazy people like me :) It's in the subject line... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/114521 See also this spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/karmic-installation-guide Anyone interested in contributing should feel free to followup on the ubuntu-doc mailing list. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Cups update
Hello, I asked this question here because this is the maintainer address specified in cups ubuntu package. Was it a wrong thing to post here ? Should I ask my question elsewhere ? where ? Apologies if I did something wrong. This question is important for me. I must know if I have to include in my work the build of my own package and maintain it. K. walou wrote : Hello, I'm using Ubuntu LTS (Hardy). CUPS has a blocking bug with Firefox 3 which has been corrected http://www.cups.org/str.php?L2892 . But the correction has not been included yet in Ubuntu Hardy. Firefox 2 is not be maintained anymore so it is not a solution. Since Hardy will live during the 5 years to come, will CUPS be updated in Hardy to correct this bug ? (or will we stay 5 years long with servers than can't be accessed with Firefox, only with IE... ?) K. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: dynamic executables ?
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:02:37 +1200 Tim Frost timfr...@xtra.co.nz wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 15:57 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: 2009/4/22 Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.it: Il giorno mer, 22/04/2009 alle 15.19 +0100, richard ha scritto: richar...@richard-g8jvm:~/eagle-5.5.0/bin$ ldd ./eagle not a dynamic executable The output from file eagle? Assuming it's eagle the circuit board design software, then eagle is not an executable but a shell script. a...@hactar:/usr/bin$ file eagle eagle: POSIX shell script text executable Which then calls /usr/lib/eagle/bin/eagle And applies to the default version. Richard has installed eagle 5.5 in his home directory. Having downloaded the linux installer for version 5.5, and run it (on 64-bit ubuntu jaunty x86_64), I have t...@zaphod:~$ ls -l eagle-5.5.0/bin total 13044 -rwxr-xr-x 1 tim tim 11473300 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim41639 2008-07-01 15:01 eagle.def -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 717572 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle_de.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 310429 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle_de.qm -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 645458 2009-04-14 15:05 eagle_en.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 718 2008-04-21 15:00 eagleicon16.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 2924 2008-04-21 15:00 eagleicon50.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 1946 2009-04-23 18:36 eagle.key -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 4110 2008-04-21 15:00 freeware.key -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 1768 2008-04-21 15:00 platforms-lin.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 1907 2008-04-21 15:00 platforms-mac.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 2019 2008-04-21 15:00 platforms-win.png -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim88118 2009-04-14 15:05 qt_de.qm t...@zaphod:~$ file eagle-5.5.0/bin/eagle eagle-5.5.0/bin/eagle: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped t...@zaphod:~$ cd eagle-5.5.0/bin t...@zaphod:~/eagle-5.5.0/bin$ file * eagle: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped eagle.def: ASCII English text eagle_de.htm: HTML document text eagle_de.qm: data eagle_en.htm: HTML document text eagleicon16.png: PNG image, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced eagleicon50.png: PNG image, 48 x 48, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced eagle.key: data freeware.key: ASCII English text platforms-lin.png: PNG image, 39 x 39, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced platforms-mac.png: PNG image, 39 x 39, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced platforms-win.png: PNG image, 39 x 39, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced qt_de.qm: data Which looks fine. Richard, what platform are you running ubuntu on (and which ubuntu release)? which installer did you use (based on the contents of~/eagle-5.5.0/bin as reported, I assume that you used the linux installer)? In most cases,the assumption is that linux == 32-bit intel platform while there are distributions that support PPC and other platforms. Cheers, Al. Tim Hi Tim The machine details are on the footer. Its an AMD64 dual athlon processor so I loaded the amd64 version of ubuntu 9.04 rc I've found that with all of the installs of Eagle v 5.0 to 5.5 it will install in /opt. When I initially upgraded to 9.04 from 8.10 eagle was running fine , no problems. Since the last few updates eagle stopped functioning. The installer now fails at the point of creating the temp file to unpack the tar ball in the installer. hence the reason and on advice of Cadsoft Eagle to strip the first part of the installer out and just leave the tar ball which will install into~/eagle-5.5.0. It installs the whole package in that directory so there are no calls to external libs, which will give problems. Last night I installed 8.10 giving up on 9.04 at the moment,only to find that the same happens in 8.10. So somewhere between 8.04 and now eagle was happy running on existing libs. these would have been flushed with the install of 9.04. There have been multiple installs over these last few days of 9.04. As well as Mandriva2009 86_64 on another partition which eagle runs OK in. Also uninstalling eagle and running from the tar ball works on MDv as well as Open suse 11.the later running on a VM. Eagle of course runs happily in a 8.10 i386 VM, but Vitualbox wont handle the USB connections through it. It should but without the use of a printer I'm stuck I'm stuck in the position that I'm using Eagle on the MDV partition, as its not functioning at all in ubuntuamd64. I move last year from Mandriva to ubuntu last year because of the better support of Ham and Audio apps . The priority now is Eagle as without that I cant do some of my work. Unless this can be sorted quickly I will have no alternative but to return to Mandriva. This means that some Ham apps will be a pig to run, but all will compile -- Best wishes Richard Bown
Re: Eclipse is stagnating
I will provide you the link to the Blueprint (once I create it). You will also be able to participate via icecast (live audio) during the UDS session. -Robbie Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Max Bowsher m...@f2s.com Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:50:35 To: Robbie Williamsonrob...@canonical.com Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Eclipse is stagnating Robbie Williamson wrote: FYI, we will have a session at UDS on upgrading to Eclipse 3.4/3.5 in Karmic. That's good news. What's the best way for those of us not at UDS to follow along with progress before and after? Thanks, Max. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Jaunty's update notifications
From what I gather (reading forum and brainstorm posts) the topic of update notifications may have already been discussed ad nauseum in devel but I missed that discussion and I find the current update method a mammoth step backwards for usability and security. I'm running very much a non-standard install these days. I've tinkered with things. I say that because I want to make sure what I'm seeing (as a user) is by design and not by some random compound of mistakes. So please put me right if I'm describing something that isn't true of a fresh install. - Apt is still scheduled to update at ~8am every day. - Update Manager will open if it has standard updates 7 days old or security updates 2 days old - This is done (and I paraquote) to tidy up the Notification Area So firstly there's the random window usability argument. New users, especially those who have migrated from an infected Windows computer suffering pop-up hell tend to be incredibly wary of things that just appear. If I arrive at my PC (with the aim of doing something specific) I'd probably ignore the update screen. I might not even know what it is and close it. Having it just spring up is setting a dangerous precedent for annoy-ware and might result people turning off the automatic updates to live an easier life. That paired with the time delay might lead to occasions where everybody has worked really hard to get a security update out and it isn't applied for days. The speed that remote flaws are converted into exploits is disgustingly fast and it should be the principal concept that when we have security updates, we make sure users get them installed. Leaving them to stew for days isn't abiding that idea. What is the default update procedure? Would a fresh install of Ubuntu install security updates without confirmation as soon as it gets them? If not, why on earth not? If you think they don't need to be enabled, please just go and look at the mess not enabling them has caused the world. Windows XP SP0, pirated around the world without automatic updates has contributed to the rapid rise of botnets. Let's keep Ubuntu safe. *Now, what was wrong with the old update behaviour?* Was it too subtle? I think it was. Plenty of people who I've installed Ubuntu for have managed to ignore it completely and it takes several reminders from me to get them using the updates as intended. Does that mean the notification icon was a bad idea? No. It just didn't go far enough. What I'm suggesting is we go all-out to ensure people know there are updates and they know what to do. Think an animated, spinning version of the update notification, balloon pop-ups explaining why installing the updates is a good idea and if they close that balloon, leave the icon in the notification area, spawning fresh balloons at increased frequency. You could argue that it's equally annoying as just spawning the update window and I'd probably agree, but I think it's that important to make sure users do their updates. My final idea is adding another group that allows users to install security updates (only) without becoming root. I have no idea how it would work but if an update balloon popped up giving me the option to install updates now, I know I'd be more inclined to install them on a regular basis if I didn't have to stick my password in each and every time. I lied. *This* will be my final idea: are you using any data collection methods to analyse how people are using the updates? I'm sure the changes that have been made so far have been done to increase uptake but how will we know either way if there isn't a metric to track? I would suggest submitting an upgradable packages over one day old for both security and other patches (as two values) when apt does its morning upgrade. Of course you'd need to ask the user permission for that data collection but that's the easy part as it's just an extension of the popularity contest. I hope that all makes sense. Please argue for or against any of it. Oli Warner. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: dynamic executables ?
Il giorno gio, 23/04/2009 alle 10.15 +0100, richard ha scritto: I'm stuck in the position that I'm using Eagle on the MDV partition, as its not functioning at all in ubuntuamd64. Your eagle copy is a 32 bit executable, while your machine is running at 64bit. Probably you have installed MDV (mandriva?) in 32 bit. The proper fix would be to find a 64 bit version of eagle that can take full advantage of your machine and operating system (which is not responsible, on the countrary, you'd be happy to have a 64bit OS). Another fix is to install the 32bit version of ubuntu, but I think there are ways to run 32bit applications natively while running a 64 bit OS; I am sure you'll find this out or other persons will reply to you. Vincenzo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Eclipse is stagnating
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Robbie Williamson rob...@canonical.com wrote: I will provide you the link to the Blueprint (once I create it). You will also be able to participate via icecast (live audio) during the UDS session. Is icecast two way? Or do you mean to say participate as listeners only? Onkar -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN interface.
Not sure why you are doing that manually. If you have a Ethernet connection then you should use Drivers Manager (System - Administration). It will download the right files, extract firmware and put it in right place (a common folder where any kernel will load from). Onkar -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
BitTorrent Download
I'm not really sure if this is where it should be reported, but it looks as though there are not bit torrent files available for 9.04 (or at least not anywhere obvious) http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt just has 8.10 and 8.04. Getting 10MB/sec using bit torrent is so much more fun than 200KB/sec from mirrors. Christian -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: BitTorrent Download
Le jeudi 23 avril 2009 à 10:22 -0400, cac...@gmail.com a écrit : I'm not really sure if this is where it should be reported, but it looks as though there are not bit torrent files available for 9.04 (or at least not anywhere obvious) http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt just has 8.10 and 8.04. Getting 10MB/sec using bit torrent is so much more fun than 200KB/sec from mirrors. You can find the torrents here in the meantime: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-released-torrents-available-here/ Happy seeding. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Eclipse is stagnating
On Thursday 23 April 2009 8:08:08 am Onkar Shinde wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Robbie Williamson rob...@canonical.com wrote: I will provide you the link to the Blueprint (once I create it). You will also be able to participate via icecast (live audio) during the UDS session. Is icecast two way? Or do you mean to say participate as listeners only? Icecast is listen-only, but as I said before, there's usually some sort of (potentially failing) VOIP, along with (working) IRC channel and Gobby (collaborative editor). -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
ssh-add /dev/null and SSH_ASKPASS
piping /dev/null to ssh-add, or running ssh-add not from a TTY causes SSH_ASKPASS to be triggered on all OS and Desktops including (K)Ubuntu. Similarly under Ubuntu (Gnome) trying to ssh to a machine will pop-up SSH_ASKPASS whether or not a valid TTY is present. This is not the case with Kubuntu, how can I make Kubuntu be the same in that respect... Thanks, -- Hatem Nassrat -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Eclipse is stagnating
On 04/23/2009 01:08 PM, Onkar Shinde wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Robbie Williamson rob...@canonical.com wrote: I will provide you the link to the Blueprint (once I create it). You will also be able to participate via icecast (live audio) during the UDS session. Is icecast two way? Or do you mean to say participate as listeners only? listeners only, however I will also create an irc room specifically for my UDS track to allow people to ask questions remotely. Worked quite well for Jaunty UDS. -Robbie Onkar -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
