Re: Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-30 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 30.09.2009 um 06:09 schrieb Randy Appleton:

 Does anyone really have 1000 icons on their desktop?

Yes, this can happen.

Regarding boot times ... I'm not sure why this is interesting. The  
best goal would be to make it unneccessary to boot/reboot a machine  
at all.


My $0.02
Markus

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possible regression in last jaunty kernel upgrade

2009-09-30 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
Hello,

when I did the kernel upgrade from 2.6.28-14-generic to
2.6.28-15-generic, the installation never completed, and I lost the
ability to use aptitude and apt-get. I don't know against which package
I should report a bug.

Symptom of package installation failure is the new kernel not appearing
in grub menu. Also, I noticed the corresponding linux-restricted package
was not pulled from the repos, so I assume it wasn't available at the
time. I need this package since I use the nvidia blob. I downloaded the
missing -restricted package and installed with dpkg.

Now any front-end to apt (I tried so far: aptitude, apt-get, add/remove/
update manager, gdebi and synaptic) segfault immediately after called,
possibly when reading the package database. Following instructions in
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace I got the attached backtrace from
aptitude.

I did the kernel upgrade using update-manager, but since the
installation/configuratio of the linux-headers package was taking
forever (seemed stalled TBH), I left home while it was doing, and
rebooted remotely a couple of hours later from work.

Now I can't even use ubuntu-bug. To which pacakge should I report the
bug against? Apt? Update-manager? Linux?

best regards
FF
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This GDB was configured as i486-linux-gnu...
(no debugging symbols found)
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/aptitude 
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[?1049h(B[?7h[?1h=[?1000h[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?25l(B(B
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[New Thread 0xb688eb90 (LWP 8467)]
[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=[?1h=(B(0lqk(B(B(0x(BLoading
 
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lists0[?7l%[?7h(B(B1(B
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0xb79bb6d0 (LWP 8462)]
0xb7f7f31f in pkgCache::FindPkg () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
(gdb) backtrace full
#0  0xb7f7f31f in pkgCache::FindPkg () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
No symbol table info available.
#1  0xb7fae379 in pkgCacheGenerator::NewPackage () from 
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
No symbol table info available.
#2  0xb7faef95 in pkgCacheGenerator::MergeList () from 
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
No symbol table info available.
#3  0xb7fe81e9 in debStatusIndex::Merge () from 
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
No symbol table info available.
#4  0xb7faeb83 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
No symbol table info available.
#5  0xb7fb1c0d in pkgMakeStatusCache () from 
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.7
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x081774df in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x0817bc70 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x0805eb22 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#9  0xb79dc775 in __libc_start_main (main=0x805d1e0 
_z12_geterroro...@plt+1644, argc=1, ubp_av=0xbfb487b4, 
init=0x81e1b10, fini=0x81e1b00, rtld_fini=0xb803a870 _dl_fini, 
stack_end=0xbfb487ac) at libc-start.c:220
result = value optimized out
unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {-1213050892, 136190736, 
134597520, -1078687864, -1501797935, 
-184781375}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0xb803f9b0, 
0xb79dc69d}, data = {prev = 0x0, 
  cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = -1207699024}}}
not_first_call = value optimized out
#10 0x0805cbb1 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
(gdb)  U.#U. U.#U.info registers
eax0xfa04fbef   -100336657
ecx0xbfb48374   -1078688908
edx0xb4842008   -1266409464
ebx0xb800aff4   -1207914508
esp

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4

2009-09-30 Thread Randy Appleton

 Does anyone really have 1000 icons on their desktop?

 Yes, this can happen.

Wow.


 Regarding boot times ... I'm not sure why this is interesting. The
 best goal would be to make it unneccessary to boot/reboot a machine
 at all.

I agree.  However, in my life I'm constant switching between Linux
(doing real work) and Windows(teaching low level classes to
non-majors).  For a server, boot times are only important in that they
put a limit on how fast you can come back from a problem.   For a
laptop, it seems important to me, but probably less so than
return-from-hibernation.  But I'm asking for advise.

Is there anything else I should measure?  Here is my current list,
updated with the suggestions I have received.

- Time to boot
- Time to resume from sleep/hibernate
- Time to login from the login prompt
- Time to find a file using  the default search tool
- Time to load a large document in OpenOffice
- Time to view a folder with 1,000 documents in it.
- Time to view a folder with 1,000 documents in it for the first time
  (no icons premade, like a memory stick from a camera)
- Time to load a complex web page
- Time to check if the distribution is up to date
- Number of files installed by default
- Number of megabytes installed by default.

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Re: idea for 10.04

2009-09-30 Thread Sarah Hobbs
On 25/09/09 16:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
 isnt the internet connection required thought to sync time with an ntp
 server at somepoint during the installation.

It tries to sync, but the installation doesn't stop if it can't find an 
internet connection.  There's nothing in the installer that requires 
internet (fortunately).

Hobbsee

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