Desktop Effects Reverting to crude X-Server style Grahpics

2009-11-07 Thread Sebastian Geiger
Resending since first mail was too big. Images are now at Imageshack:
Image 1: http://yfrog.com/75appearanceproblem1p
Image 2: http://yfrog.com/14appearanceproblem2p

Since a few weeks now I am experiencing a strange bug when I am
switching my desktop to use the second monitor thats connected through
my VGA port. I use a Laptop so its not connected all the time.

I have a thinkpad so I can use Fn+F4 to switch output. Pressing Fn+F4
usually switches between combinations LCD+VGA, LCD Only, VGA Only (where
LCD is my laptops monitor).

For me, plugging in the VGA cable and pressing Fn+F4 screws up the 2nd
screen, and then the appearance. The appearance became in a way like
crude XServer style grey graphics. Everything is a bit bigger and no
rounded corners and gradients anymore.
Interestingly the problem is instantly fixed when I go to
system-preferences and open appearance. As you can see the difference
between the two screen shots. One more thing is that when the graphics
get screwed like in Screen shot 1 then I cannot use Fn+F4 anymore (it
simply has no effect) until I open the Appearance Window, after that it
works again. How ever I can't get it to VGA+LCD, only either LCD or VGA
works and in between there a several iteration where the output is just
broken, so instead of pressing Fn+F4 3 times it have to press it like 6
or 7 time to get what i want.

I am wondering about which package I would have to file a bug?

Regards
Lanoxx


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Re: Desktop Effects Reverting to crude X-Server style Grahpics

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Olsson
Sebastian Geiger wrote:
 For me, plugging in the VGA cable and pressing Fn+F4 screws up the 2nd
 screen, and then the appearance. The appearance became in a way like
 crude XServer style grey graphics. Everything is a bit bigger and no
 I am wondering about which package I would have to file a bug?

These symptons occur when gnome-settings-daemon crashes.
In fact you can emulate this by just killing the
gnome-settings-daemon process.

Normally the apport crash reporter is turned off
in stable releases but you can enable it using this command:

  sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start

It will run until the next time you reboot and it
will catch any crashes and prompt you to submit a
bug to Launchpad.

Once you have apport running, then do that thing with
the VGA cable and/or Fn+F4 etc (whatever steps is necessary
to trigger the bug) and hopefully the bug gets detected by
apport.



Martin

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Re: Desktop Effects Reverting to crude X-Server style Grahpics

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Olsson
Martin Olsson wrote:
 
   sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start
 

Actually I just tried it and it seems that this
command has been deprecated in karmic. It prints
another upstart related way to start the service
but that second command does not work at all on my
machine.


Martin

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Imagining a development news web site (for end users of ubuntu+1)

2009-11-07 Thread Dylan McCall
Hello!


One big issue I noticed with the testing community in a development
release of Ubuntu is that misinformation has a habit of spreading. For
example, with Karmic, when the rules changed behind where icons get
displayed, lots of users did not know what was going on. Some either
thought it was a bug or a dumb change (when in fact it was a smart
change :P). Similar situation with the changes to notify-osd. Angry
ranters had to be told individually, almost, what the actual situation
was and to please file bug reports or constructive feedback where
applicable.

Reading the changelogs, GNOME and Ubuntu Planet helps to that end, but
both involve a lot of reading (and in the latter case some additional
technical knowledge + a lot of patience). I think we could improve the
experience for our testers and the quality of our bug reports if they
were immediately aware of particularly important changes as they
happened at the point they became available, from the perspective of
Ubuntu+1. (Not months before they land downstream, not too much
later). As far as I am aware, there is not really a definitive place
to look for that type of information.

So, I think a nice route about that is to create a web site in a news
blog style, linked to from the Ubuntu Start Page for the development
release (during its development until the release candidate) and as a
live bookmark in Firefox's default setup. It should be reasonably low
traffic but provide testers with big things that are changing, that
need feedback or need help.

I was poised to make a blueprint + wiki page for this, but I think it
would be best to ask for feedback first. Please, fire away :)


Dylan McCall

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Re: Desktop Effects Reverting to crude X-Server style Grahpics

2009-11-07 Thread Chris Coulson
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 15:50 +0100, Martin Olsson wrote:
 Sebastian Geiger wrote:
  For me, plugging in the VGA cable and pressing Fn+F4 screws up the 2nd
  screen, and then the appearance. The appearance became in a way like
  crude XServer style grey graphics. Everything is a bit bigger and no
  I am wondering about which package I would have to file a bug?
 
 These symptons occur when gnome-settings-daemon crashes.
 In fact you can emulate this by just killing the
 gnome-settings-daemon process.
 
 Normally the apport crash reporter is turned off
 in stable releases but you can enable it using this command:
 
   sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start
 
 It will run until the next time you reboot and it
 will catch any crashes and prompt you to submit a
 bug to Launchpad.
 
 Once you have apport running, then do that thing with
 the VGA cable and/or Fn+F4 etc (whatever steps is necessary
 to trigger the bug) and hopefully the bug gets detected by
 apport.
 
 
 
   Martin
 
Hi,

This bug has already been reported [1], and is currently on my list of
things to look at. I intend to spend some time this evening debugging
this one.

Regards
Chris

[1] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/447431


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RE: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-11-07 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Follow-up to this: I just logged into the VPN for the first time after 
upgrading to Karmic at home and it kept my default route, didn't replace the 
nameserver entries, and still added a local route for the VPN over ppp0! 
Whatever work has gone into NetworkManager between 9.04 and 9.10 I heartily 
approve!

Thanks!


 -Original Message-
 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Ethan Baldridge
 Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:59 AM
 To: Shentino; Morten Kjeldgaard
 Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com; Derek Broughton
 Subject: RE: Ubuntu Domain Server
 
 I just edit resolv.conf anyway and fix it the next time it “breaks”
 (every time I log into my company VPN, even though I have the PPPoE
 client set to not apply DNS settings from the DHCP server).  For a
 personal computer, I can just keep editing; I have to fix the default
 route every time anyway. But it would be nice to know how to “fix” it –
 and the routing table – permanently.
 
  From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Shentino
  Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:33 AM
  To: Morten Kjeldgaard
  Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com; Derek Broughton
  Subject: Re: Ubuntu Domain Server
 
  On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Morten Kjeldgaard
 m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:
 
  On 20/10/2009, at 15.35, Derek Broughton wrote:
 
 
  I will never understand why a server GUI would improve anything?
 
  I will never understand why elitists hate GUIs.  A good UI should
  improve
  things by absolutely preventing misconfiguration.
 
  That's because the GUI often gets in the way of good sysadm practices
  and also automated configuration such as cfengine and the like.
 
  One example is the /etc/resolv.conf file, which used to be a simple 3
  line file that in karmic has been replaced with a complex and
  intransparent resolvconf system, that is part of the network
  configuation gui and clobbers /etc/resolv.conf at every boot.
 
  IIRC, resolvconf leaves a big fat #AUTOGENERATED, DO NOT EDIT comment
 line in the file, so at least any potential conf-file monkeys looking
 to poke around are clued in, and presumably a short operation can tell
 resolvconf to go away or at least disable itself.
 
  There's a huge difference maintaining a single-user system on a
 laptop
  and hundreds of workstations.
 
  -- Morten
 
 
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Re: Imagining a development news web site (for end users of ubuntu+1)

2009-11-07 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello!

Hi,

 One big issue I noticed with the testing community in a development
 release of Ubuntu is that misinformation has a habit of spreading. For
 example, with Karmic, when the rules changed behind where icons get
 displayed, lots of users did not know what was going on. Some either
 thought it was a bug or a dumb change (when in fact it was a smart
 change :P).

That's a controversial topic, you can't just assert such a thing.

 Reading the changelogs, GNOME and Ubuntu Planet helps to that end, but
 both involve a lot of reading (and in the latter case some additional
 technical knowledge + a lot of patience). I think we could improve the
 experience for our testers and the quality of our bug reports if they
 were immediately aware of particularly important changes as they
 happened at the point they became available, from the perspective of
 Ubuntu+1. (Not months before they land downstream, not too much
 later). As far as I am aware, there is not really a definitive place
 to look for that type of information.

http://www.commit-digest.org/ (for Kubuntu) and
http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/ (for Ubuntu) might be good
starting points.

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Re: System Beep problem

2009-11-07 Thread John Vivirito
 On 11/04/09 15:40, Aurélien Naldi wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, John Vivirito gnomefr...@gmail.com wrote:
  How do i turn system beep back on in Karmic. The sound that is
  used now is just a thud sound. Only have ~4 other choices in
  the sound preference.
  
  Hi,
  
  I discovered today that pcspkr, the module responsible for system
  beeps, is blacklisted on karmic.
  I have been blacklisting it after each install for years, and thus
  love this change!
  
  You can remove it from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf to get the old 
  behaviour.
  
  Is it a better way to un-blacklist a module?
  
  Best regards.
  
 I had it un-commented for a while but i will try removing it
 and see what happens
 Thanks
 
Ok i removed it and no change, i will file a bug on it as soon
as i can it would be great to have atleast a work around where
i can start.

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