Re: Goal proposal: Replace gksu because incompatible to at-spi
Hello Francesco, Francesco Fumanti [2010-03-04 21:49 +0100]: > Consequently, I wonder whether it can be possible to create an > Ubuntu 10.10 goal (for Ubuntu 10.04 it might be to late) that aims > to completely remove gksu from Ubuntu and replacing it by something > else. Another option than gksu-polkit would be "pkexec" which comes with polkit directly. It has the big advantage of sharing the UI with all the other polkit dialogs, so that we finally stop having multiple different authentication dialogs. Would that work? Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Goal proposal: Replace gksu because incompatible to at-spi
Hi, As you might probably know, gksu is not compatible to at-spi. [1] Consequently, I wonder whether it can be possible to create an Ubuntu 10.10 goal (for Ubuntu 10.04 it might be to late) that aims to completely remove gksu from Ubuntu and replacing it by something else. GNOME has decided to remove bonobo from their desktop and once that is done, at-spi will be replaced with at-spi2. http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BonoboDeprecation Thus gksu will not be incompatible anymore to the accessibility framework, but can the fact that GNOME is getting rid of bonobo not also be a reason to remove gksu from Ubuntu? (When I say this, I am assuming that gksu depends on bonobo, but in reality, I don't know whether that is really the case. Please, anybody correct me if I am wrong.) I hoped that gksu-polkit could be a candidate for the replacement of gksu; so I edited the menu item that launches synaptic and replaced gksu with gksu-polkit. Unfortunately, version 0.0.1-1 of gksu-polkit that is shipping in the lucid universe repository does not even show the authentification dialog. However, the situation gets better with version 0.0.2-1 that I downloaded from debian: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libgksu-polkit0 http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/gksu-polkit It shows the authentification dialog, allows me to start synaptic with root privileges without the desktop becoming unresponsive; synaptic also seems fully fontional, but the gksu-polkit process takes cpu; a kill -9 is necessary to terminate the process. Here is the bug that I filed about the issue; maybe somebody with more knowledge can improve the bug thread. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572333 Maybe the gksu-polkit is not the best approach to remove gksu from Ubuntu; there might be a better way to do it.(I don't know; I am not a real developer.) The real aim of this email is to raise the question about whether it makes sense for Ubuntu to completely remove gksu from the system; if so, to start the discussion about how it could be done and to have this point considered at least as a goal for Ubuntu 10.10. Cheers, Francesco. [1] How to verify the incompatibility: - Enable at-spi by putting a checkmark in the Enable assistive technologies setting of the System->Preferences->Assistive Technologies control panel. - Enable an assistive tool that uses at-spi; for example, enable the simulated secondary click in the Accessibility tab of the mouse control panel. (System->Preferences->Mouse) - Try to start the Synaptic Package Manager by using the corresponding menu item in System->Administration.The desktop becomes partially unresponsive because this menu item is configured to use gksu that is not compatible to at-spi. (You can switch to a virtual terminal (f.ex.:ctrl+lt+f1) and kill the gksu process to make the desktop responsive again.) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
OSSCamp Chandigarh April 2010 - Open Source Is The Future
Hello All, OSSCamp is again being organized in *Chandigarh* on April 10, 2010. This is another step ahead to foster the open source community in the city beautiful. At a Camp, we love to cross-talk, huddle together, raise some noise, celebrate technology, argue over how *Linux* is the coolest OS ever made, fight on our fav programming languages, discuss stuff, and what not! *Linux, especially Ubuntu* would be a major topic of discussion at the camp. The participants will include enthusiastic *Linux geeks and enthusiasts* and you all will surely get to learn a lot. The main purpose of the camp in * Chandigarh* is to promote open source technologies especially Linux and that too Ubuntu because we feel that it is the most easy to use Linux distribution ever made.* Ideas on how to make the Ubuntu experience even better and easy to use for an absolute beginner will be discussed and later would be submitted to the Ubuntu community for Further development for these ideas. * OSScamp Chandigarh April 2010 April 10, 2009 Venue: To Be Decided Time: 10AM - 6PM You can register for the event at : http://chd.osscamp.in/ Follow Us on Twitter : http://twitter.com/osscamp Facebook Event Page : http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=247304090115&ref=ts -- Regards, Rishabh Verma c. +91.98555.17272 Follow me on twitter : www.twitter.com/rishabhverma Add me on Facebook : www.facebook.com/rishabhv The Teen Tech Junkie -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: White-on-black terminal should be default
On 03/03/2010 02:20 PM, Lucian Adrian Grijincu wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Rene Veerman wrote: >> use a ~/.bash_profile to set your colors? > > It's already configurable in gnome-terminal's settings. > Not sure what you want to put in the .bash_profile to make this work. > > Anyway, this discussion is getting a bit old and not of interest to > everyone on this list. > > Isn't this more suitable for a bug? > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/531540 > > Feel free to report this upstream. > The problem i run into is that i back-up my ~/.bashrc. Once i move my ~/.bashrc from usb drive to $HOME it does not use the same colors i had. I'm sure these colors are set in one of the gnome dirs. But should really be set in ~/.bashrc(my 2cents) -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 "How can i get lost, if i have no where to go" -- Metallica from Unforgiven III signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: White-on-black terminal should be default
On 03/03/2010 03:23 PM, Remco wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 17:40, Tom H wrote: >>> Ugh. I really thought that only primitive systems use white text on a black >>> background. It's ergonomically very bad. I never use such a terminal >>> except in Windows, where I haven't figured out (nor spent enough time to >>> need to) how to change it. >> >> I agree. I would rather not have my terminals look like a tty! >> > > Would it be possible to have black text on a white background for the > virtual terminals, too? The current low-resolution white-on-black is > not very comfortable. > I have mine set to green on black background, and my TTY's use that theme without any changes. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 "How can i get lost, if i have no where to go" -- Metallica from Unforgiven III signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
