Re: 2 panels waste the height needed for web browsing on 16/10 screens
Dmitrijs Ledkovs 写道: > On 2 April 2010 15:17, Felix Miata wrote: > >> On 2010/04/02 14:01 (GMT+0200) Jérôme Bouat composed: >> >>> Maybe only 1 panel which includes the windows bar (like the Microsoft >>> Windows task bar) would be a good trade-off. >>> >> Kubuntu - one bar >> Xubuntu - one bar >> > > Ubuntu - one bar (netbook remix) > Ubuntu - two bar (desktop edition) > > Maybe it is good that the panels hide automatically when a window maximize, just like cairo-dock. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
>>> Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better? >> gksu - executes as superuser using $HOME = /root >> gksudo - executes your current environment e.g. $HOME=/home/$user but >> with superuser priviliges. > However, on Ubuntu: > ~$ diff -as $(which gksu) $(which gksudo) > Files /usr/bin/gksu and /usr/bin/gksudo are identical > In fact: > ~$ ls -l $(which gksudo) > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2010-02-27 02:03 /usr/bin/gksudo -> gksu > And if I've understood things correctly. on ubuntu gksu is originally > wired to instead work like gksudo by default. Using gksu or gksudo is the same thing. You can use "-w" to use su-mode (IIRC, you need to have the root password set) and you can use "-S" for sudo-mode (the default on Ubuntu, see [1] below). You can also use "-k" to preserve the environment. [1] In gconf-editor, by default, /apps/gksu/sudo-mode is set. If you untick it, gksu will require the root password. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 3 April 2010 21:26, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >>> And even worse idea to use gksu. Try >>> gksudo. Should yield better results. >> Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better? >> >> >> Nils > > gksu - executes as superuser using $HOME = /root > gksudo - executes your current environment e.g. $HOME=/home/$user but > with superuser priviliges. > Generally you want the latter one. > However, on Ubuntu: ~$ diff -as $(which gksu) $(which gksudo) Files /usr/bin/gksu and /usr/bin/gksudo are identical In fact: ~$ ls -l $(which gksudo) lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2010-02-27 02:03 /usr/bin/gksudo -> gksu And if I've understood things correctly. on ubuntu gksu is originally wired to instead work like gksudo by default. - Arand -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
On 3 April 2010 21:26, Nils Kassube wrote: > Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >> And even worse idea to use gksu. Try >> gksudo. Should yield better results. > > Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better? > > > Nils gksu - executes as superuser using $HOME = /root gksudo - executes your current environment e.g. $HOME=/home/$user but with superuser priviliges. Generally you want the latter one. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
hello nils, Am 03.04.2010 22:26, schrieb Nils Kassube: > Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >> And even worse idea to use gksu. Try >> gksudo. Should yield better results. > > Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better? i wrote dimitrijs.. no, sorry. it shows the same result: the screen was/goes dark - to give the sudo -pw - i give the PW - and precisely nothing happen´s i use on my laptop lucid lynx (whit the gnome key ring "bug") maybe this is the "problem"? ahoi michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > And even worse idea to use gksu. Try > gksudo. Should yield better results. Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better? Nils -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
On 3 April 2010 18:35, Michael Kappes wrote: > hello devels and readers, > > i will start my firefox as "root" - but, it doesn't work > > bash: > >> u...@laptop:~$ gksu firefox -d Very bad idea as a whole. And even worse idea to use gksu. Try gksudo. Should yield better results. /me doesn't have firefox /me uses epiphany -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
hello cris, Am 03.04.2010 19:45, schrieb Chris Coulson: > this > really isn't the place to ask for ways to make your system less secure. if i start ff (or other apps) as "root" - i know what i do. i quest for help/support. not for a argument ;) anyway, thx for advice ahoi michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 19:35 +0200, Michael Kappes wrote: > hello devels and readers, > > i will start my firefox as "root" - but, it doesn't work > > bash: > > > u...@laptop:~$ gksu firefox -d > > /home/user/.themes/Red Humanity/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:101: Murrine configuration > > option "gradients" is no longer supported and will be ignored. > > No ask_pass set, using default! > > xauth: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE/.Xauthority > > STARTUP_ID: gksu/firefox/2533-0-tuxtop_TIME8943795 > > cmd[0]: /usr/bin/sudo > > cmd[1]: -H > > cmd[2]: -S > > cmd[3]: -p > > cmd[4]: GNOME_SUDO_PASS > > cmd[5]: -u > > cmd[6]: root > > cmd[7]: -- > > cmd[8]: firefox > > buffer: -- > > brute force GNOME_SUDO_PASS ended... > > No password prompt found; we'll assume we don't need a password. > > xauth: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE/.Xauthority > > xauth_env: /var/run/gdm/auth-for-user-LfDBUR/database > > dir: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE > > u...@laptop:~$ > > Murrine Error = is OK ;) > > at the fist start from the shell whit gksu - the passwd question comes. > by the second start from shell i set the "-d" > > what can i do thats my ff starts "as root" again. thx a lot. > > Ahoi > Michael > I can't emphasise enough how bad an idea this is, and I'm not sure why you'd feel the need to do that in the first place. In any case, this really isn't the place to ask for ways to make your system less secure. Regards Chris signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: cant start gksu firefox
Hi. Why do you want to something like run Firefox as root? Kenny -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
cant start gksu firefox
hello devels and readers, i will start my firefox as "root" - but, it doesn't work bash: > u...@laptop:~$ gksu firefox -d > /home/user/.themes/Red Humanity/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:101: Murrine configuration > option "gradients" is no longer supported and will be ignored. > No ask_pass set, using default! > xauth: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE/.Xauthority > STARTUP_ID: gksu/firefox/2533-0-tuxtop_TIME8943795 > cmd[0]: /usr/bin/sudo > cmd[1]: -H > cmd[2]: -S > cmd[3]: -p > cmd[4]: GNOME_SUDO_PASS > cmd[5]: -u > cmd[6]: root > cmd[7]: -- > cmd[8]: firefox > buffer: -- > brute force GNOME_SUDO_PASS ended... > No password prompt found; we'll assume we don't need a password. > xauth: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE/.Xauthority > xauth_env: /var/run/gdm/auth-for-user-LfDBUR/database > dir: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE > u...@laptop:~$ Murrine Error = is OK ;) at the fist start from the shell whit gksu - the passwd question comes. by the second start from shell i set the "-d" what can i do thats my ff starts "as root" again. thx a lot. Ahoi Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 2 panels waste the height needed for web browsing on 16/10 screens
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Jérôme Bouat wrote: > > Ubuntu - two bar (desktop edition) > > The issue is that small screens are now shipped high performance laptop > (~1000 €). > > On those high performance laptops, I would not use the netbook remix > flavor but the genuine flavor of Ubuntu. A $200 dollar netbook runs the "genuine" flavor of Ubuntu well. Actually I've found the genuine flavor of Ubuntu runs on pretty much any old hardware while the UNR is painful to use without a 3D accelerator even with graphics quality set to its lowest. The UNR seems to be more a way to provide the "maximus" possible usable screen space and to provide bigger icons that are easier to hit on those annoying touchpads than to be cut-down* -- Ubuntu is already much lighter than WIndows Vista/7. I've heard they are moving towards abiword for UNR, but you can easily install openoffice if that is what you want (or as Dmitrijs said, install ubuntu-netbook-remix on an existing Ubuntu install). * lubuntu is quite a nice cut down desktop, which also only has a single panel by default. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 2 panels waste the height needed for web browsing on 16/10 screens
On 3 April 2010 09:58, Jérôme Bouat wrote: >> Ubuntu - two bar (desktop edition) > > The issue is that small screens are now shipped high performance laptop > (~1000 €). > > On those high performance laptops, I would not use the netbook remix flavor > but the genuine flavor of Ubuntu. > Using Ubuntu Desktop -> $ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix It's only a couple of additional packages ontop of regular ubuntu. A lot of people are using just the netbook launcher on their desktops cause they like it that way. Searching for UNR on wiki / blogs / launchpad / google will give you loads of ways & tips how to set it up -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 2 panels waste the height needed for web browsing on 16/10 screens
> Ubuntu - two bar (desktop edition) The issue is that small screens are now shipped high performance laptop (~1000 €). On those high performance laptops, I would not use the netbook remix flavor but the genuine flavor of Ubuntu. Dmitrijs Ledkovs a écrit : > On 2 April 2010 15:17, Felix Miata wrote: >> On 2010/04/02 14:01 (GMT+0200) Jérôme Bouat composed: >>> Maybe only 1 panel which includes the windows bar (like the Microsoft >>> Windows task bar) would be a good trade-off. >> Kubuntu - one bar >> Xubuntu - one bar > > Ubuntu - one bar (netbook remix) > Ubuntu - two bar (desktop edition) > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
