Re: Linux Desktop Responsiveness Patches - Encouragement for implementing ; jor

2010-08-08 Thread giovanni_re
This flaw is a terrible one, & a big black eye for Ubuntu/Linux.

Getting this fix implemented in the current (K)Ubuntu 10.4 would really
be great progress.  :)

What are the plans for implementing this in the current kernel?

I encourage the Ub kernel devs to implement this ASAP.

Thanks.


On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:05:09 +0200, "Przemek Kulczycki"
 said:
> Hi Devs.
> Have you seen the article about the recent Linux Desktop Responsiveness
> Patches?
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ3OQ
> I think they might be useful to Ubuntu, though I'm not sure if you
> would like to backport them to earlier kernels.
> Nevertheless, it should be an interesting read for you.
> Regards,

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Re: Updating from LGPL 2 to LGPL 3

2010-08-08 Thread Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals
2010/8/8 Henrik Johansson :
> I remember some such discussion about the kernel license a while back
> and that seemed to be the consensus.

The problem with Linux's (kernel) license is that it is "GPL version
2", not "GPL version 2 *or later*" (like most project, and in which
case no permission is required from anyone to use/distribute it as
GPLv3+, since it already is).

Because the license doesn't include the "or later" fragment,
permission from all copyright holders is required to change the
license. Now the big problem is that many people who contributed to
the Linux kernel are no longer reachable to give their consent to the
change.

I've recently read somewhere that now Linus is encouraging new
contributors to include a sentence in their license header authorizing
either himself or another prominent kernel developer (at their choice)
to change the license to a later GPL version, to reduce this problem
for new code changes.

I hope this helps. And, IANAL.

Cheers,

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Re: Updating from LGPL 2 to LGPL 3

2010-08-08 Thread Henrik Johansson
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Don't you have to have permission from all the contributors?
I remember some such discussion about the kernel license a while back
and that seemed to be the consensus.

Perhaps it only applies to the contributors that have also created new
files?

/ Henrik


On 08/07/2010 08:40 PM, Francesco Fumanti wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 08/07/2010 04:56 PM, Remco wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 15:57, John Moser  wrote:
>>> Are you a maintainer of the package or an actual code contributor for the
>>> project?
> 
> I do not think that I can qualify myself as a real code contributer, but I am 
> the one who will probably create the next release tarball; of course, with 
> the consent of the main developer. (The package is hosted on launchpad and I 
> have write access to it.)
> 
> If I am going to change the license, I will do that in trunk before creating 
> the release and again, it will be done with the consent of the core 
> developer, whom I am in contact with.
> 
>>> Raising the license seems silly if you're not a core dev or significant
>>> contributor.  *GPL3 were driven by politics and contain language not well
>>> tested in court (particularly, the completely ineffective patent language);
>>> so a third-party relicense of someone else's code would seem political and
>>> ill-conceived.
> 
> Do I get it right? You are telling us that LGPL 2.1 is a better license than 
> LGPL 3 and that it might be better staying with LGPL 2.1?
> 
>> It would be ill-conceived regardless of your opinion of the new GPL.
>> Nobody else but the developers decide on the license, simple as that.
> 
> +1
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Francesco.
> 

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