Re: Ogv support in software center
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 14:25 -0500, Chris Hardee wrote: It's probably been talked about before, but as proposed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GamesIntegration I think we need add ogv/movie support in software-center to show off games and some applications (I'm thinking like CAD software and such so users can get a feel for how interactive it is). In fact I think we should have the application page be a webkit widget and possibly have html5 interaction. Hey Chris. I like the idea of ogv and possibly html5 being embedded in the UI. My only reservation is that too much freedom in the layout may compromise visual structure and consistency. Adding to that, the ability to add more user created data as well, may make it even more consistent. Although, I suppose it depends on how it is done. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ogv support in software center
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 29.10.2010 21:25, schrieb Chris Hardee: It's probably been talked about before, but as proposed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GamesIntegration I think we need add ogv/movie support in software-center to show off games and some applications (I'm thinking like CAD software and such so users can get a feel for how interactive it is). In fact I think we should have the application page be a webkit widget and possibly have html5 interaction. I would really like to see that too. Maybe in the future we need a wiki-like system so people can add custom content to about-pages. But first i think we should focus on functionality of the software center like supporting dist-upgrade/upgrade directly trough it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMzGAvAAoJEKU5B2k1XeMExvsP/j/9divSEYc3YK8g+tbOVPJB Xkjt6bLHu3r8KQV6+PDwKrANocCeYVlxIS+k7156BL8b2VcqqMMKDe+urwHe/O69 kcPMykgpwALWtJU/fp/sP5OjzDJA+MY9ETd4xapmZpk67qAVs+eSqfvE2LxCZ52Z h5inSaybAZJrOQ9C3Oid6hzZt16FB8U4goc7Y8l/s7kF91EU1Nc4FviuwltzXgyO Yl4orD3H6gOjTAydv2nGh9nVNoM9iFTFh7oUkXSJsRitZ3JzYXXYfNuzYH1LwaMJ dtKkBW1NgqKxvhEZJWNWaUoxlNdY9JIggnZlwr+B8Kmr2jD8Ilvju5Ed3vlnovge IS/Ea/6/S/1r7Yc04oxBtMdneCsqjp5zdQ4hAAXxCoZTSFJ2rdcePIVum53TD+II RZq+r9DMNDiiE5l/Ohjz+DE2ZWJFFcaqQxPG3lB6mh2VLLRa264QgrzJZUlI4tvb 60B1tflb3xk/3OVNQ59DCAFx5v9fU49c3mTSwvGGB/5vcvLx9LkKDJM9MqxJ9cVw D22U+sUD6C3pSbhC7vlJtB16SOWAtKBXJjUutiQZoQ1BgMgLogNzGd1BhecnhslU bwzkGhhz1AWtLqgI+zVOF3rg+AcWJLjpivuPUbYfrS1sgq05l7nNo/pIsLruAIm7 XMFk8TUFLvlsoh/rQQYP =apbR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ogv support in software center
That is a good point, I think though if we provide a strong template and keep everything consistent and logical it should be ok. I'd imagine only package maintainers could alter the package page to enforce this. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 14:25 -0500, Chris Hardee wrote: It's probably been talked about before, but as proposed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GamesIntegration I think we need add ogv/movie support in software-center to show off games and some applications (I'm thinking like CAD software and such so users can get a feel for how interactive it is). In fact I think we should have the application page be a webkit widget and possibly have html5 interaction. Hey Chris. I like the idea of ogv and possibly html5 being embedded in the UI. My only reservation is that too much freedom in the layout may compromise visual structure and consistency. Adding to that, the ability to add more user created data as well, may make it even more consistent. Although, I suppose it depends on how it is done. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ogv support in software center
It's no secret that this idea sprung from (possibly the lack-of) a Steam-like service. Though it makes sense for Steam to include all steam-community features in one software package, I don't see how this couldn't be extended to the software-center too. I think that Ubuntu-one, and possibly empathy/gwibber couldn't be integrated too. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Kai Mast kai.m...@freakybytes.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 29.10.2010 21:25, schrieb Chris Hardee: It's probably been talked about before, but as proposed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GamesIntegration I think we need add ogv/movie support in software-center to show off games and some applications (I'm thinking like CAD software and such so users can get a feel for how interactive it is). In fact I think we should have the application page be a webkit widget and possibly have html5 interaction. I would really like to see that too. Maybe in the future we need a wiki-like system so people can add custom content to about-pages. But first i think we should focus on functionality of the software center like supporting dist-upgrade/upgrade directly trough it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMzGAvAAoJEKU5B2k1XeMExvsP/j/9divSEYc3YK8g+tbOVPJB Xkjt6bLHu3r8KQV6+PDwKrANocCeYVlxIS+k7156BL8b2VcqqMMKDe+urwHe/O69 kcPMykgpwALWtJU/fp/sP5OjzDJA+MY9ETd4xapmZpk67qAVs+eSqfvE2LxCZ52Z h5inSaybAZJrOQ9C3Oid6hzZt16FB8U4goc7Y8l/s7kF91EU1Nc4FviuwltzXgyO Yl4orD3H6gOjTAydv2nGh9nVNoM9iFTFh7oUkXSJsRitZ3JzYXXYfNuzYH1LwaMJ dtKkBW1NgqKxvhEZJWNWaUoxlNdY9JIggnZlwr+B8Kmr2jD8Ilvju5Ed3vlnovge IS/Ea/6/S/1r7Yc04oxBtMdneCsqjp5zdQ4hAAXxCoZTSFJ2rdcePIVum53TD+II RZq+r9DMNDiiE5l/Ohjz+DE2ZWJFFcaqQxPG3lB6mh2VLLRa264QgrzJZUlI4tvb 60B1tflb3xk/3OVNQ59DCAFx5v9fU49c3mTSwvGGB/5vcvLx9LkKDJM9MqxJ9cVw D22U+sUD6C3pSbhC7vlJtB16SOWAtKBXJjUutiQZoQ1BgMgLogNzGd1BhecnhslU bwzkGhhz1AWtLqgI+zVOF3rg+AcWJLjpivuPUbYfrS1sgq05l7nNo/pIsLruAIm7 XMFk8TUFLvlsoh/rQQYP =apbR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. I'm not talking about packages that might break the system, like gnome or Xorg. It's just some application that you might get from developer website to download and run instantly. في Thu، 28-10-2010 عند 08:34 +0300 ، كتب Bilal Akhtar: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene - -- Bilal Akhtar - Ubuntu Developer, yet still 14 years old. More information about him can be found on https://edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar IRC nick: bilalakhtar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMyQtOAAoJENsMxwzgYeH2hLsH/jzGxdfaiKOqXlAWVx62r23e /UjqZBsVIgrZgsipD2Pfw07oRn7M4vp+K8QA7aUdJCL6r5RdvpQszNxWMbQ1r92h xizEp48VYU3oOWOoxV/u21rWUXsxbXmiPxZFb3FOHjMU13z5y0ydVWxbbzQOpjtp nFjTLwkJTiiGYmayeCwdN8CakOZO/x/nfopDQea2GKxXK1eT3O3mX2QRffWgogKz DAg02jY+QT/vG1jRRSagd2MZABMQCw2UP0ZNXnwRR0aRUbGpXw9q+1HZ8TUKeDKI TAi60ZvLxjj166DSYTCiVzDOTI9BzVPuUzCxiNNKdcjI7DH+mbpgjRonq5YWTno= =mzR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Assalam alaikum Usama, The average user (i.e the group of users we're targeting) doesn't care about what version of software X he is running, as long as it works. For that reason, new versions of software will not land in the Ubuntu main repositories. Furthermore, these new versions can also not land in ubuntu-backports. If you want a (simple) desktop application to have an updated version in backports, you should file a bug for requesting it. You can find more information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports. Hope I've been useful :) Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Usama Akkad uahe...@gmail.com wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. I'm not talking about packages that might break the system, like gnome or Xorg. It's just some application that you might get from developer website to download and run instantly. في Thu، 28-10-2010 عند 08:34 +0300 ، كتب Bilal Akhtar: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene - -- Bilal Akhtar - Ubuntu Developer, yet still 14 years old. More information about him can be found on https://edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar IRC nick: bilalakhtar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMyQtOAAoJENsMxwzgYeH2hLsH/jzGxdfaiKOqXlAWVx62r23e /UjqZBsVIgrZgsipD2Pfw07oRn7M4vp+K8QA7aUdJCL6r5RdvpQszNxWMbQ1r92h xizEp48VYU3oOWOoxV/u21rWUXsxbXmiPxZFb3FOHjMU13z5y0ydVWxbbzQOpjtp nFjTLwkJTiiGYmayeCwdN8CakOZO/x/nfopDQea2GKxXK1eT3O3mX2QRffWgogKz DAg02jY+QT/vG1jRRSagd2MZABMQCw2UP0ZNXnwRR0aRUbGpXw9q+1HZ8TUKeDKI TAi60ZvLxjj166DSYTCiVzDOTI9BzVPuUzCxiNNKdcjI7DH+mbpgjRonq5YWTno= =mzR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Actually FileZilla and Deluge are great candidates for backports and just need a bug filed against the appropriate backports project. There was some discussion at UDS about increasing the usage of backports for these types of applications so people can get the latest versions. Thanks, Micah On 10/30/2010 03:43 PM, Mohammed Amine IL Idrissi wrote: Assalam alaikum Usama, The average user (i.e the group of users we're targeting) doesn't care about what version of software X he is running, as long as it works. For that reason, new versions of software will not land in the Ubuntu main repositories. Furthermore, these new versions can also not land in ubuntu-backports. If you want a (simple) desktop application to have an updated version in backports, you should file a bug for requesting it. You can find more information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports. Hope I've been useful :) Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Usama Akkad uahe...@gmail.com wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. I'm not talking about packages that might break the system, like gnome or Xorg. It's just some application that you might get from developer website to download and run instantly. في Thu، 28-10-2010 عند 08:34 +0300 ، كتب Bilal Akhtar: Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
