Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
I came to ubuntu from Windows. And one thing Windows does well is make it easy to find an executable file (i.e., it's in C:\Program Files\). Finding an executable file in Ubuntu is frustrating lacks organization that makes sense to users. Fedora is considering a fix for this issue. I think Ubuntu should do the same. Here's a link to an article that talks about Fedora's idea: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html?view=print -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
I think that's a good idea. But it requires a lot of work that I think should start first in Debian. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
On Nov 1, 2011, at 15:01, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote: I came to ubuntu from Windows. And one thing Windows does well is make it easy to find an executable file (i.e., it's in C:\Program Files\). Finding an executable file in Ubuntu is frustrating lacks organization that makes sense to users. Fedora is considering a fix for this issue. I think Ubuntu should do the same. Here's a link to an article that talks about Fedora's idea: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html?view=print -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss Hi, learn about file permissions. In a terminal, cd to the directory you are looking for an executable, then use ls. Try man ls for more info, but ls -l ( l as in lamba) will show what is executable and lots of other info. Let me know if/ how it works out. Alexander-- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
On 11/01/2011 03:20 PM, Cosme DomÃnguez wrote: But it requires a lot of work that I think should start first in Debian. And, is already being discussed in Debian (lengthy thread): http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/10/msg00157.html Allison -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
Hi, 2011/11/1 nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com: And one thing Windows does well is make it easy to find an executable file (i.e., it's in C:\Program Files\). This is a joke, right? Finding an executable file in Ubuntu is frustrating lacks organization that makes sense to users. You may find the whereis command useful. Eg., | $ whereis gedit | gedit: /usr/bin/gedit /usr/lib/gedit /usr/share/gedit /usr/share/man/man1/gedit.1.gz Most (99.99%) binaries should be in /usr/bin. Some core binaries are in /bin (for technical reasons) and some system administration binaries may be in /sbin (for historical reasons). I'd be happy about an unification here, but as you can see it's not a trivial matter. In case you installed some application manually, it may be in /usr/local/bin or somewhere in /opt. This is so you can separate distribution stuff from other random stuff. Hope this helps, -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals (RainCT) Free Software Developer -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
On 1 November 2011 19:01, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote: I came to ubuntu from Windows. And one thing Windows does well is make it easy to find an executable file (i.e., it's in C:\Program Files\). Finding an executable file in Ubuntu is frustrating lacks organization that makes sense to users. Fedora is considering a fix for this issue. I think Ubuntu should do the same. Here's a link to an article that talks about Fedora's idea: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html?view=print Why do you want to find an executable? If you want to run it, just type it. If you want to know where it is (for whatever reason, not sure why if it's on the $PATH) then type $ which $command, e.g. $ which bash - /usr/bin/bash Jonathon -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
RE: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:08:27 +0100 Subject: Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/ From: gregor.shap...@gmail.com To: nru...@hotmail.com The Link to the deviant article returned a 404 On Nov 1, 2011 8:02 PM, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote: I came to ubuntu from Windows. And one thing Windows does well is make it easy to find an executable file (i.e., it's in C:\Program Files\). Finding an executable file in Ubuntu is frustrating lacks organization that makes sense to users. Fedora is considering a fix for this issue. I think Ubuntu should do the same. Here's a link to an article that talks about Fedora's idea: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html?view=print -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Moving all binaries to /usr/bin ?
Interesting proposed change for the location of binaries in Fedora: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html Would Ubuntu consider doing the same? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Moving all binaries to /usr/bin ?
On 11-11-01 05:26 PM, Matt Alexander wrote: Interesting proposed change for the location of binaries in Fedora: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html Would Ubuntu consider doing the same? There were some discussion about this at UDS yesterday during the session about dropping initrd images for systems that don't need them. From what I understand it requires quite a bit of kludging in Fedora already, in Ubuntu it could cause even further problems considering that it could break things since Debian doesn't do this. Since it was accepted that the initrd can be dropped for systems that don't need it if it can be implemented in time for Oneiric, it makes it even less likely that moving the binaries will be implemented. -Jonathan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
What annoys me more is the third-party use of both /usr/local and /opt. I would rather get rid of /opt. I consider /usr/local the proper place for anything not handled by a package manager. From: Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals siegfr...@gevatter.com Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:52:32 +0100 In case you installed some application manually, it may be in /usr/local/bin or somewhere in /opt. This is so you can separate distribution stuff from other random stuff. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/
On 11/01/2011 01:42 PM, Jeff Hanson wrote: What annoys me more is the third-party use of both /usr/local and /opt. I would rather get rid of /opt. I consider /usr/local the proper place for anything not handled by a package manager. FHS has a very specific purpose for /opt and it's different than /usr/local. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
