Re: [debian-mysql] [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-16 Thread Colin Charles
Hi!

On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:24, Henrik Ingo wrote:

 Clearly I was unclear in my previous email. The 2 year support is not
 true for any of the alternatives. MySQL gives 5 years (and more for
 customers that pay), Percona trails MySQL so they also end up doing 5
 years (and more for paying customers). MariaDB also does 5,
 apparently.

Oracle supports MySQL for 5 years from date of release commercially. There is 
supposedly only two GA releases supported at any one given time (in active 
support for community use). Of course we have no idea if this is true yet or 
not since 5.1 and 5.5 are still supported. We will know firmly what their 
plans are when 5.6 is released. Will it then be that 5.1 will drop from active 
GA support? I have no idea (as I don't work for Oracle). Only time can/will tell

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Re: [debian-mysql] [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-16 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
Great stuff,

What ever the choice, even if it is to keep MySQL alone, lets remember
MySQL will not be dropped ! Any one would still be able to install the
Oracle GA if they wanted to (from some repository, probably partner, or
even main)

If indeed there is a replacement, I can only talk about what I have
experienced firsthand... it mus have ALL THE SAME COMMANDS AND PARAMETERS
AND DB ENGINES so that every init.d, upstart and shell scripts must work
unware of the change, even the DBA might not be aware of the change unless
he types a $ mysql --version

MariaDB has met those criteria for me.

Other DB engines are welcome frosting in the cake. :)

Yet, at the same time, it MUST BE VERY CLEARLY DOCUMENTED the change
itself, the underlying reazon to do so, the possible good and bad impact
(such as know issues)... it could even explain the alternatives, between
other DBs in the MySQL environment, including the official Oracle MySQL
or even PG.

And I am sorry to all PG users, I know its an excelent DB, but no one but
who is not already a PostgreSQL user even consider it as an alternative.

Apple has changed its embended DB from MySQL to PG in the MacOSX Server
when Oracle has purchased SUN. Anyone could still choose to manually
install MySQL (or any other), but it has a caused major issues in their
user base and crippled several programs that were already pretty stable in
the previous release. Not the change of flavors (to PG) but the buggy
implementation of the change and the fact that it was so poorly documented.

Lets try not to repeat their mistakes here.


2012/2/16 Colin Charles co...@montyprogram.com

 Hi!

 On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:24, Henrik Ingo wrote:

  Clearly I was unclear in my previous email. The 2 year support is not
  true for any of the alternatives. MySQL gives 5 years (and more for
  customers that pay), Percona trails MySQL so they also end up doing 5
  years (and more for paying customers). MariaDB also does 5,
  apparently.

 Oracle supports MySQL for 5 years from date of release commercially. There
 is supposedly only two GA releases supported at any one given time (in
 active support for community use). Of course we have no idea if this is
 true yet or not since 5.1 and 5.5 are still supported. We will know
 firmly what their plans are when 5.6 is released. Will it then be that
 5.1 will drop from active GA support? I have no idea (as I don't work for
 Oracle). Only time can/will tell

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 colincharles
 MariaDB: Community developed. Feature enhanced. Backward compatible.
 Download it at: http://www.mariadb.org/
 Open MariaDB/MySQL documentation at the Knowledgebase:
 http://kb.askmonty.org/




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/etc/os-release file

2012-02-16 Thread Przemek Kulczycki
Hi devs.
I know it's feature freeze now, but could you consider implementing a
trivial feature: /etc/os-release file?
This file is supposed to standardise basic OS release information.
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html
You can also check out the announcement on Lennart Poettering's blog:
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/os-release

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