questions about current ways of work in Ubuntu release process

2012-05-09 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Hi All,

 Some of you might remember me, some of you won't. I used to be part
of the Ubuntu community and loved every minute of it. I've been drawn
to some other open source projects since then, but the apparent
quality boost I'm experiencing with 12.04 has left me eager and
curious about things, not to mention Mark's helped to engage this
curiosity[0].

So, I'm terribly curious about:

1) we’ll ratchet up the continuous integration - What sort of
continues integration system Ubuntu is using now? I guess its based on
Jenkins ? I'd love to read the gory details somewhere.
2) smoke testing - is it done by hand by Ubuntu members, or also
taken care of by the CI system?
3) automated benchmarking of the release - How's that done? Again,
happy to read the gory details somewhere ;)
4) ..both qualitative and quantitative, with user research and
testing continuing to shape our design decisions.. - How is user
research being conducted? for testing, I suppose there's the community
QA team the has the test cases executed by hand? How is it shaping the
design decision? Are there new Launchpad modules that assist in that?
5) Is 'Fauna' another software / cloud component? (I've never seen
such a blog post with so many cryptic words for the non native English
speaker ;)
6) Where can I read more about 'Quantum' , the virtualized network
madness in the cloud  ;) ?

Kudos to the great team of Ubuntu - reading all of this and asking all
those question makes me wanna rejoin the party again, doing some catching up.
I might also try to pitch up some of the practices to the other open
source projects I'm part of ;)
(I've always admired the way we do things in Ubuntu!)

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Re: questions about current ways of work in Ubuntu release process

2012-05-09 Thread Evan Huus
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.comwrote:

 Hi All,

  Some of you might remember me, some of you won't. I used to be part
 of the Ubuntu community and loved every minute of it. I've been drawn
 to some other open source projects since then, but the apparent
 quality boost I'm experiencing with 12.04 has left me eager and
 curious about things, not to mention Mark's helped to engage this
 curiosity[0].

 So, I'm terribly curious about:

 5) Is 'Fauna' another software / cloud component? (I've never seen
 such a blog post with so many cryptic words for the non native English
 speaker ;)


English borrows that from Latin:
flora  fauna === plants  animals

He was simply referring to the animal code names that Ubuntu uses.

Also, I believe you missed your footnote link:
[0] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1121

Sorry I can't help with any of the other more interesting questions.
Evan
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Re: questions about current ways of work in Ubuntu release process

2012-05-09 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 English borrows that from Latin:
 flora  fauna === plants  animals

Yes, flora I know - I was not familiar with fauna. Phew, I was going
to email this to ubuntu-devel but then the bounce back told me only
ubuntu-developers are allowed to post to it.

 He was simply referring to the animal code names that Ubuntu uses.

 Also, I believe you missed your footnote link:
 [0] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1121

Indeed I have, thanks for re-mentioning it.

-Sivan

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Problems with setuid app in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Smith
Hi all.  I've recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 64bit.

I'm using a proprietary VPN utility from Juniper Networks on my Linux
system.  In previous versions of Ubuntu, it worked just fine.  In the
current version of Ubuntu, I'm getting failures.  For some reason it's
not letting me invoke a setuid application.

The way it is deployed is it unpacks into a hidden directory under
$HOME, then the main VPN program needs to be made setuid root so that it
can be invoked by me but do root-y things.

Then, you can either run the tool directly from the command line or you
can run a little Java control window which manages the VPN.  If I run
the program directly from the command line, the setuid works and the VPN
comes up and works fine.  But, I can't control it or see how long it's
been up.

Whenever I try to use the Java control panel the GUI comes up and tries
to run the setuid program, but it fails and then the whole thing
crashes.  I get this error:

  Failed to setuid to root. Error 1: Operation not permitted

But I have clearly set the right bits and it works when invoked
directly.  I've tried many different variations of Java including
downloaded ones directly from Sun/Oracle.

One note, the application is 32bit and so I need to run 32bit Java as
well.  Not sure if that matters.

Has the 12.04 release installed some new security measures that might be
keeping my setuid program from working properly?  I've tried putting
Java under /opt/jvm and also run service apparmor teardown to try to
be sure apparmor is not involved, but I don't know enough to know if I
succeeded.

I'm really stuck and could use any pointers or tips anyone has.


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