Re: [Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-06 Thread James Haigh
On Nov 6, 2012 2:45 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, James Haigh james.r.ha...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Please take a look at Kivy. It aims at crossplatform multitouch support
for
  both mobile and desktop.
 
  Anyone looking at web-based apps as a way to be crossplatform should
  consider Kivy.
 
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kivy
 
  James.

 It looks decent.
 But supporting one platform doesn't mean that another is useless.

I never said it was; I agree that PhoneGap should support Ubuntu. Although
granted, I'm no fan of JavaScript-based apps. I think with LLVM around, and
OS's like Android that are capable of sandboxing each application, the days
of JavaScript apps are numbered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM

On Nov 6, 2012 5:58 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/11/6 Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com:
  This is inspired by the following post:
 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-November/msg6.html
 
  Since Ubuntu is heading towards Tablets and mobile phones now.
  It would be very nice if we also join the PhoneGap camp.

 This occurred to me is as well when the new mobility focus was
 announced a few weeks ago.

What? Could you please provide a link?

I remember years ago hype about Ubuntu Mobile - which kinda became Moblin,
IIRC, which with a couple of mergers and renames (now called Tizen I think)
hasn't had a raving success. Now there's excitement about Ubuntu for
Android - and I really do hope Canonical get it out there before it goes
the same way, or competitors get there first. I think Canonical should
focus on Ubuntu for Android before revisiting the ambitions of Ubuntu
Mobile.

 If you or someone has interest to tinker
 with the code, go ahead and add Ubuntu support :) There are indeed
 many platforms which try to do the same as PhoneGap, so pick your
 choice and add Ubuntu in front of developers' eyes!

This is the reason why I think PhoneGap should support Ubuntu! :-p

Best regards,
James.
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Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-06 Thread Colin Law
On 31 October 2012 11:49, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote:
 I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this:

 The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to
 restart to finish installing updates, with a default button Restart
 highlighted. Not only that, the window close button is not present.

I am not supporting the current interface, but just pointing out that
it it still possible to close the update manager by right clicking it
in the launcher and selecting quit.

I notice though that after this mornings updates, which I did via
command line and which updated the kernel the gear icon has not gone
red.  If I run the update manager however it says that I need to
reboot but the icon is still not red.

Colin

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Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-06 Thread C de-Avillez
On 05/11/12 09:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
 This is from my perspective though
 and I have not really followed all too closely since I am the type of
 person to remove what I don't want and block stuff like Canonical's
 NTP and other tracking via our hardware firewalls instead of
 complaining about stuff that I myself can fix.

I am curious on what is this block stuff like Canonical's NTP and
other tracking

You state, or imply, that NTP -- which I take to mean the network
time protocol --, specifically Canonical's NTP,  has been added
with the ability to track its users.

You then keep on stating this is the same with other tracking,
without any details.

Can you please provide some pointers (or, even better, facts) to
allow us to verify a -- so far -- baseless assertion?

Cheers,

..C..



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Re: gfortran-4.6 dependency problems

2012-11-06 Thread JC Lawrence

On 4 Nov 2012, at 15:29, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:

 On 2 November 2012 21:45, JC Lawrence j...@cydesign.com wrote:
 The current version of gfortran in 12.0 LTS depends on gfortran-4.6, which 
 in turn depends on GCC-4.6 (=, not =), which can't be satisfied as the only 
 GCC release in 12.0 is 4.6.1-2.  Is this likely to be resolved soon?  I need 
 gfortran and am having the very devil of a time building GCC and thus 
 gfortran from sources (arghh!).
 
 # apt-get install gfortran
 
 Can you show the output of:
 
 $ apt-cache policy gfortran

$ apt-cache policy gfortran
gfortran:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:4.6.1-2ubuntu5
  Version table:
 4:4.6.1-2ubuntu5 0
500 http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 
Packages

Micah's assessment of a stale package repository was accurate (the AWS 
repositories are quite stale).  After moving /etc/apt/sources.list over to the 
requisite Ubuntu repositories:

# apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes install gfortran-4.6
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Starting
Starting 2
Investigating (0) gfortran-4.6 [ amd64 ]  none - 4.6.1-9ubuntu3  ( devel )
Broken gfortran-4.6:amd64 Depends on gcc-4.6-base [ amd64 ]  4.6.3-1ubuntu5  
( libs ) (= 4.6.1-9ubuntu3)
  Considering gcc-4.6-base:amd64 61 as a solution to gfortran-4.6:amd64 
Broken gfortran-4.6:amd64 Depends on gcc-4.6 [ amd64 ]  none - 4.6.1-9ubuntu3 
 ( devel ) (= 4.6.1-9ubuntu3)
  Considering gcc-4.6:amd64 1 as a solution to gfortran-4.6:amd64 
Reinst Failed early because of gcc-4.6-base:amd64
Broken gfortran-4.6:amd64 Depends on libgfortran3 [ amd64 ]  none - 
4.6.1-9ubuntu3  ( libs ) (= 4.6.1-9ubuntu3)
  Considering libgfortran3:amd64 1 as a solution to gfortran-4.6:amd64 
Reinst Failed early because of gcc-4.6-base:amd64
Broken gfortran-4.6:amd64 Depends on libc6-dev [ amd64 ]  none - 
2.13-20ubuntu5.2  ( libdevel ) (= 2.13-0ubuntu6)
  Considering libc6-dev:amd64 1 as a solution to gfortran-4.6:amd64 
Reinst Failed early because of libc6:amd64
  Considering libc6-dev:amd64 1 as a solution to gfortran-4.6:amd64 
Broken gfortran-4.6:amd64 Depends on libmpc2 [ amd64 ]  none - 0.9-3 | 0.9-4 
 ( libs )
  Considering libmpc2:amd64 1 as a solution to gfortran-4.6:amd64 
  Re-Instated libmpfr4:amd64
  Re-Instated libmpc2:amd64
Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gfortran-4.6 : Depends: gcc-4.6-base (= 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) but 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is 
to be installed
Depends: gcc-4.6 (= 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: libgfortran3 (= 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) but it is not going 
to be installed
Depends: libc6-dev (= 2.13-0ubuntu6) but it is not going to be 
installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

The long short and tall of which is that sufficient was pushed forward in a 
prior apt-get upgrade that moving back to get coherence with the current 
gfortran packages was a PITA.  After dropping back to a raw-install, everything 
is again happy in the house of cross-compilation.

Thanks guys!

-- JCL
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