Re: The Kitty package in 19.10 is old

2020-01-05 Thread Christian Ehrhardt
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:18 PM Behrang Saeedzadeh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The current Kitty package in 19.10 is 0.14.3-1, released on 2019-07-29.
> There have been 5 releases since then with numerous new features and bug
> fixes, with latest release on 2019-12-21:
> https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/changelog.html
>

Hi,
the Kitty in 19.10 (sounds odd) is on 14.3 which is the version that was
released upstream at 29th July.
Version 14.4 was released on 31st August which was after the Feature Freeze
of 19.10 on 22nd of August.

Is it possible to publish the updates to the 19.10 repos?
>

Not as easily as you might think.
The next version of Ubuntu is 20.04 and already on Kitty 15.0 just missing
the most recent release 15.1 which probably is due to most  people being on
christmas break.
For 19.10 updates would have to follow the SRU policy [1] which means
individual, testable, backportable bug fixes.
Furthermore Kitty is "only" on universe [2] support so you'd also need to
spend some effort yourself or find a volunteer driving this.

[1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[2]:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#The_Four_Main_Repositories

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Update qemu

2020-01-05 Thread Christian Ehrhardt
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:54 PM Daniel Llewellyn 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 15:23, Chaython Meredith 
> wrote:
>
>> Why has qemu not been updated?
>> 4.2 out now. 4.1 since November.
>>
>
Hi,
we knew we wanted to go to 4.2 for 20.04
Extra merges of interim versions are quite some work without much gain and
in addition 4.1 had some issues discussed in regard to block handling that
I didn't want to trigger.

Furthermore history has told us that merging qemu along the libvirt release
that follows it (containing fixups as needed) is the best approach to not
leave the current dev version of Ubuntu in a bad state.
That would be libvirt 6.0 which isn't released yet and therefore holding
things back a bit (plus the actual time to do the merge work and plenty of
testing).



> Stable releases of Ubuntu maintain packages in the repositories for
> security-patches only; bumping versions beyond this is not a standard modus
> operandi. To bump the versions in stable releases we follow the Stable
> Release Updates documentation and rules:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates. You will need to justify
> why QEMU should be version bumped from 4.1 to 4.2 in the currently
> available Ubuntu releases. If 4.2 is available in Debian Unstable then
> Ubuntu 20.04 will include that version, or a later version if it arrives
> before the repository sync, when it is released in April.
>
> Dan.
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