Re: UBUNTU ARM64 DEB PACKAGES on DEBIAN RELATED VERSION

2020-03-23 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
All of Ubuntu is available for arm64 & armhf

Why bother with Debian, if all of Ubuntu is available anyway?!

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 19:28 Onur GURSOY,  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> First of all you're great team. you done great jobs.
> I'm lovers of arm and you're supporting arm platform.
> I'm very appreciated to you.
>
> I'm wondering one thing nowadays, I'm interested in ubuntu packaging for
> ar,64 platform. I'm inspecting your package and your .dsc file.
> *Your ubuntu arm64 packages are working on debian ?*
> I mean, your freeradius_3.0.16+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb is working on
> DEBIAN buster/sid.
> In general, you are doing something for ubuntu for packaging ?
> *I can say, Most of ubuntu packages are fully **compatible with debian
> buster/sid or something like that version?*
>
> Many thanks,
> for your help,
> With best regards,
>
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> Master Student at Gebze Institute Of Technology
> Department Of Electronic Engineering
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Re: UBUNTU ARM64 DEB PACKAGES on DEBIAN RELATED VERSION

2020-03-23 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/22/20 4:49 PM, Onur GURSOY wrote:
> In general, you are doing something for ubuntu for packaging ? 
> I can say, Most of ubuntu packages are fully compatible with debian
> buster/sid or something like that version?

In practice, there is a fair amount of binary compatibility between
Ubuntu and Debian. However, you really shouldn't use binary packages
from one on the other. If you want Ubuntu packages, use Ubuntu; if you
want Debian packages, use Debian.

If you need a single package from the other, you should download the
_source_ package (one place to find that is via
https://packages.debian.org or https://packages.ubuntu.com) and rebuild
that source package on your distribution. This would typically involve
something like this:

1) tar zxf mypackage_1.2.3.orig.tar.gz
2) cd mypackage-1.2.3
3) tar --lzma -xf ../mypackage_1.2.3.debian.tar.xz
4) Optionally, edit debian/changelog (use the dch utility)
5) debuild -uc -us
6) If/when that fails, install the required dependencies and retry the
build. "apt build-dep mypackage" can help if "mypackage" is already
packaged in your distro. If the dependencies have changed, you may still
need to install a few more packages separately.

Where you'll run into trouble is if the package you're trying to build
has newer dependencies than are available in your distro version. That
has to be handled on a case-by-case basis. You may be able to weaken the
dependency, or undo whatever change raised it, or you may have to
backport the dependency. That last option can quickly turn into a mess
if the dependency requires more upgraded dependencies; if you find that
happening, just stop and upgrade your distro version instead.

Good luck!

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UBUNTU ARM64 DEB PACKAGES on DEBIAN RELATED VERSION

2020-03-23 Thread Onur GURSOY
Hello Everyone,

First of all you're great team. you done great jobs.
I'm lovers of arm and you're supporting arm platform.
I'm very appreciated to you.

I'm wondering one thing nowadays, I'm interested in ubuntu packaging for
ar,64 platform. I'm inspecting your package and your .dsc file.
*Your ubuntu arm64 packages are working on debian ?*
I mean, your freeradius_3.0.16+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb is working on
DEBIAN buster/sid.
In general, you are doing something for ubuntu for packaging ?
*I can say, Most of ubuntu packages are fully **compatible with debian
buster/sid or something like that version?*

Many thanks,
for your help,
With best regards,

-- 
Onur GÜRSOY
R Engineer in Embedded Systems
Master Student at Gebze Institute Of Technology
Department Of Electronic Engineering
GSM : 0(545) 764 7653
e-mail: onurgursoyg...@gmail.com
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Re: "python-is-python2-but-deprecated" and "python-is-python3" don't provide the "python" package

2020-03-23 Thread Matthias Klose
On 3/23/20 5:36 PM, Daniel Dromboski wrote:
> Just sent this to "ubuntu-devel," but it probably should have been
> posted here instead...
> 
> ---
> 
> Hi,
> 
> At the moment, neither "python-is-python2-but-deprecated" nor
> "python-is-python3" provide the "python" package.

"python-is-python2-but-deprecated" will provide "python (= 2.7.17-1)" for the
20.04 LTS release.  This is done so that upgrades don't get packages removed,
which depend on python.

> I wonder if this is intended behavior, or an oversight?

it's intended.  Before we are uploading a package with the provides, we have to
make sure that no package in the archive uses the unversioned python as a
runtime or a build dependency.  This work is not yet finished.  Help and patches
are appreciated.  Please subscribe me to such bug reports with patches.

Matthias

> In the last update on this [topic] on the [ubuntu-devel] mailing list,
> back in February,
> it was stated that at least "python-is-python2-but-deprecated" would
> provide the "python" package.
> 
>>  - Before release, add a binary package "python-is-python2-but-deprecated"
> package shipping the /usr/bin/python symlink, and providing the python
> package. [...]
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> P.S. When I run `apt info python-is-python2-but-deprecated` I get this
> about dependencies:
> 
> [...]
> Depends: python2
> Breaks: python, python-is-python3
> Replaces: python, python-is-python3
> [...]
> 
> But no "Provides:"...
> 
> And when I run `apt info python-is-python3` I get:
> 
> [...]
> Depends: python3
> Breaks: python, python-is-python2-but-deprecated
> Replaces: python, python-is-python2-but-deprecated
> [...]
> 
> No "Provides:" again.
> 
> (By contrast here is what I get for `apt info wine-development`, which
> "provides" the wine package):
> 
> [...]
> Provides: wine
> Depends: [...]
> Suggests: [...]
> Breaks: [...]
> Replaces: [...]
> [...]
> 
> With neither back-compatible transition package "providing" the
> "python" package, anything package that currently depends on the
> version-neutral "python"  package can't be installed in Focal.
> 


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"python-is-python2-but-deprecated" and "python-is-python3" don't provide the "python" package

2020-03-23 Thread Daniel Dromboski
Just sent this to "ubuntu-devel," but it probably should have been
posted here instead...

---

Hi,

At the moment, neither "python-is-python2-but-deprecated" nor
"python-is-python3" provide the "python" package.

I wonder if this is intended behavior, or an oversight?

In the last update on this [topic] on the [ubuntu-devel] mailing list,
back in February,
it was stated that at least "python-is-python2-but-deprecated" would
provide the "python" package.

>  - Before release, add a binary package "python-is-python2-but-deprecated"
package shipping the /usr/bin/python symlink, and providing the python
package. [...]

Thanks.


P.S. When I run `apt info python-is-python2-but-deprecated` I get this
about dependencies:

[...]
Depends: python2
Breaks: python, python-is-python3
Replaces: python, python-is-python3
[...]

But no "Provides:"...

And when I run `apt info python-is-python3` I get:

[...]
Depends: python3
Breaks: python, python-is-python2-but-deprecated
Replaces: python, python-is-python2-but-deprecated
[...]

No "Provides:" again.

(By contrast here is what I get for `apt info wine-development`, which
"provides" the wine package):

[...]
Provides: wine
Depends: [...]
Suggests: [...]
Breaks: [...]
Replaces: [...]
[...]

With neither back-compatible transition package "providing" the
"python" package, anything package that currently depends on the
version-neutral "python"  package can't be installed in Focal.

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