Re: Command to flush file system cache to prepare for performance testing?
Olá Martin e a todos. On Tuesday 09 December 2008 22:39:31 Martin Olsson wrote: > Does anyone know such a command to flush the file system cache? I just use HDparm sudo hdparm -F -i -I -t -T --verbose /dev/sda Or bonnie++ -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... Merry xtmas and Happy New Year http://www.ubuntu-pt.org/static/pictures/ecard.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: You lost a new Ubuntu user
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Tuesday 30 December 2008 14:20:12 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > Very confusing...this email totally lacked linebreaks when I viewed it > in Evolution, but when I reply, there apparently are linebreaks. > Evolution does freaky things sometimes. I see the same on Kmail. Hotmail is plain stupid. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... Merry xtmas and Happy New Year http://www.ubuntu-pt.org/static/pictures/ecard.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Are system policies too restrictive?
Olá Chris e a todos. On Friday 02 January 2009 22:01:40 Chris Coulson wrote: > Hi, > > I came across a bug report recently where users were having problems > authenticating with PolicyKit from tools such as users-admin, because > the 'Unlock' button was greyed out. After some debugging, it seemed that > all affected users were logged in via a VNC session. Because the VNC > session was not on the active console, users could not authenticate with > Policykit, because of the default Ubuntu policy. I closed the bug > report, as Policykit was doing it's job, and I pointed out to the > affected users that they can change the system policy if they want. > > I've since seen another bug report which looks like the same issue (I'm > just waiting for the reporter to provide some information I requested). > > It seems that this is confusing users that are logging in from a remote > console. In the pre-Hardy days when Policykit didn't exist, users could > launch any admin tool and authenticate with gksu whether they were on a > local or remote console. This has changed now, and results in a loss of > functionality for those users who log in on a remote console. We now > have to be on the active local console to do pretty much anything, from > adding/removing users to adjusting the clock. > > I can understand why certain actions are restricted to users logged in > to the active local console (such as shutting down/rebooting/suspending > the machine, mounting/unmounting removable media, accessing certain > hardware devices such as sound cards/web-cams), but I'm not sure why the > default policy should prevent administrators from changing system > settings (such as adding users, changing the system time etc.) when they > are logged in from a remote console. > > The extra policies that appeared in Intrepid for the new Jockey seem to > be a lot more sane than existing policies. For example, they allow > administrators to install or remove device drivers regardless of whether > they're on the local console or not. I think this is how some of the > other policies should be. +1 one the all idea that we need to discuss & improve this. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... Merry xtmas and Happy New Year http://www.ubuntu-pt.org/static/pictures/ecard.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: improving -proposed (was #1 Complaint about Ubuntu: Updates break things)
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Monday 05 January 2009 22:06:02 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > Er, does apt-listchanges work at all? I only ever get a blank window > that disappears immediately after it finishes loading without user > interaction. I've been using it (a lot) since Hardy up to jaunty. works flawlessly. It opens quickly closes when there isnt anything to see. Otherwise it should remain open. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: too complicated
Olá Alan e a todos. On Wednesday 07 January 2009 15:32:03 Alan Pope wrote: > Although these days:- > > "Click this:- apt://cowsay" > Doesnt seem to work on my side, on Jaunty Firefox 3.1 and 3.0. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Doing something about signal:noise complaints
Olá Emmet e a todos. On Thursday 22 January 2009 16:27:42 Emmet Hikory wrote: > * Point of contact for Ubuntu users to reach Ubuntu developers > > There are lots of reasons that users want to reach developers. > For many of them, there are more specific fora. Bugs should be reported > to the bug tracker (2). Suggestions for features that would benefit > from discussion and voting should be posted to brainstorm (3) (although > a post to this list pointing at the brainstorm entry is not entirely > bad). Posts specific to a certain area of Ubuntu may be better > discussed on more specific mailing lists (see the list (4). Requests > for assistance or support most specifically belong on the ubuntu-users@ > list. I'm likely missing lots of other specific fora, but in summary, > such a general list as ubuntu-devel-discuss@ is probably best used when > either it's not clear which forum may be more appropriate, when it's > something that isn't specific enough to fit in another forum, or when a > specific forum for the topic in question doesn't exist. Well my POV on this is that you may have missed a valid use case: Discussion of problems on a development branch. From my experience, ubuntu-users@ is mainly toward to stable releases, and usually an user like my self (alpha/beta tester) gets really poor support there. At least on this list I expect to get some extra help to either fix my/our problem, or be pointed in the right direction, even if that is simply the case to go to LP and report it. Basicly I expect the same treatment as I get on IRC support channels (ubuntu+1 and ubuntu-bugs). Is that to much to ask? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: How can we run the default browser under Linux?
Olá Lars e a todos. On Wednesday 04 February 2009 12:05:30 Lars Wirzenius wrote: > In Debian, and Ubuntu, and systems based on them, you can run the > sensible-browser command and it will figure out what the user wants. That actually opens epiphany, when my jaunty system is set to user FF3.1 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Vlc won't play DVD's on Ubuntu, or Kubuntu Intrepid
Olá Nigel e a todos. This should be sent to ubuntu-users. So please reply only there. On Tuesday 03 February 2009 17:23:40 Nigel Henry wrote: > I have vlc installed on both my Ubuntu, and Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10 installs, > but vlc will not play dvd's. It finds the optical drive ok, and I get the > menu up for the dvd, but only about a half second of sound, and video play, > then it stalls. If I press on play the movie, again I get about a half second > of sound and video, then the movie stops playing. If I move the progress bar, > I can move through the movie, but again when I stop moving it, another > snippet of sound and video, and all I have is effectively a still shot, with > no sound. You need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras. There is a bug opened on Launchpad about VLC not asking for the codecs. > I then enabled the Hardy Multiverse repo, and installed the Hardy version of > vlc 0.8.6a janus (wxWidgets Interface) on Kubuntu Intrepid, which plays dvd's > with no problem. Was it Hardy or Interpid? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[RFC] Improve communication with testing users about master key changes in development branches
Hi. Ever since 6.10 Beta 1, I've been a alpha/beta tester of all Ubuntu releases. Like me, there are several other users that at same point start testing the development branches. But the main difficulty I have in keeping track during the development are the changes that occur. I usually track the ReleaseNotes and TechnicalOverview, and now we have _public_ meetings reports (which helps a tad more). Still, and understand I dont want to impose any more work to the already busy scribblers, but it would be nice to have either an email announcement, or a wiki page with ALL changes of policy, UI, package adding/removal. Stuff like the changes PulseAudio in jaunty is an example of what would fit into this. This would increase the notice of testers to changes, that easily slip into the cracks, and also help tracking regressions when filling bugs. Waiting for your comments and suggestions. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: How can we run the default browser under Linux?
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:57:51 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > You only *think* it's configured to use FF3.1 then. Did you check your > "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"? I'm pretty sure, Mac: $ update-alternatives --config x-www-browser There are 5 alternatives which provide `x-www-browser'. SelectionAlternative --- 1/usr/bin/firefox-3.2 * 2/usr/bin/firefox-3.1 +3/usr/bin/opera 4/usr/bin/epiphany-webkit 5 /usr/bin/amaya -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [RFC] Improve communication with testing users about master key changes in development branches
Olá Sense e a todos. On Thursday 05 February 2009 18:32:54 Sense Hofstede wrote: > Maybe an Identi.ca stream, maybe partly automatically generated, would > be useful? Or weekly posts on the QA blog? As much as I like µblogging and RSS feeds, I rather have a choice for email. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [RFC] Improve communication with testing users about master key changes in development branches
Olá Dan e a todos. On Thursday 05 February 2009 19:16:27 Dan Chen wrote: > > Stuff like the changes PulseAudio in jaunty is an example > > of what would fit into this. > > There have not been significant policy, UI, or package additions/ > removals to base PulseAudio or ALSA userspace components in > jaunty. To what are you referring specifically? I mean the going away of the old alsa controls that opened from the audio applet. The first time I saw it, I thought some package had failed to install/build. Only after, on IRC, I was told it was NEW. Many Old users upgrading will be bitten by this feeling, trying to find where to set the volume levers (even though most never needed it, and there always alsamixer[gui]). On Thursday 05 February 2009 19:16:27 Dan Chen wrote: > I offer that the high priority bugs are very visible, and an > additional wiki page will not change how the developers > prioritise. It would be immensely helpful for an initial glance, > and perhaps drive-bys would find it useful. Maybe I wasnt clear here: This is not meant FOR Devs, but for testers and users. Of course this information should be filled by the maintainers of the packages or who makes the changes. High/Critical bugs and Major changes are already mention on Release notes and http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha* pages. What I'm saying here, is that doesnt have enough detail, for those of us who keep doing regular updates. Hope this clears any confusion my OP email gave. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [RFC] Improve communication with testing users about master key changes in development branches
Olá Dan e a todos. On Thursday 05 February 2009 19:32:27 Dan Chen wrote: > > --- On Thu, 2/5/09, (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > > I mean the going away of the old alsa controls that opened > > from the audio applet. > > So you'd like documented the changes in Desktop components. Not all changes are at the Desktop level, but yes, those are the more visible > > Maybe I wasnt clear here: > > This is not meant FOR Devs, but for testers and users. > > Of course this information should be filled by the > > maintainers of the packages or who makes the changes. > > If you're volunteering, feel free! eheh I already do. I spend huge amounts of time, testing new versions, helping new users, filling bugs, triaging existing reports... But on this subject I'm at a mist... I dont know what YOU as a dev for PA and ALSA know. So when you guys picked from upstream this new way to make Ubuntu handle sound properties you knew what your were doing... I dont. I jut got the result, without any *extra* info on how to use it other then try-&-error. See what I mean? We need some tiny bit of intel on how to benefit from the new changes , _or else_ the all distro just gets yours complaining 'cause they dont know what to do with the tools that they already knew with the old ones. Some times a single one-liner at a wikipage or email is more then enough for users/testers (who actually care to read/follow/search) know whats up. I just did that with the new X HUGE Fonts bug. I read about the change in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview "Font sizes may be abnormally small or large on monitors which mis-report their capabilities. If you suspect this may be the case, please see X/Troubleshooting/HugeFonts for steps to troubleshoot this issue. " and wasnt caught by surprise... ok I was, I only read the email *after* the package upgrade. But I better know something, sometime that none at all. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)
Olá Scott e a todos. On Thursday 12 February 2009 00:17:51 Scott James Remnant wrote: > This is most likely simply a difference between *your* 2.6.29 config and > the Ubuntu 2.6.28 one - I expect you compiled in many of the drivers > your computer needed, and omitted those you didn't Hope I dont start a flame war here, but is there any *easy* way for non-devel-but-somewhat-advanced-users to pick the _current_ installed kernel and optimise it to there machine in an *automated* way? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [RFC] apturl repository whitelist application process
Olá Alexander e a todos. On Friday 13 February 2009 11:16:39 Alexander Sack wrote: > > Some repos will want to replace system packages (eg medibuntu)...this > > seems incompatible with these requirements. > > I am not sure what medibuntu does. Is that a derivate? Its a 3rd party repo with license problematic apps. stuff like google earth, skype, codecs, etc -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [RFC] apturl repository whitelist application process
Olá Alexander e a todos. On Thursday 12 February 2009 10:24:49 Alexander Sack wrote: > However, if necessary, the repository may actually be removed from the > users' sources lists. This may be necessary if there are severe > problems on the repository such as data lose errors, security > problems, repository maintainer is not cooperating. The repository can > not reapply for at least 1 year for inclusion again One year or two release cycles (plus a leap cycle for LTSs) ? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)
Olá Scott e a todos. On Thursday 12 February 2009 14:48:11 Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:15 +, (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > > Hope I dont start a flame war here, but is there any *easy* way for > > non-devel-but-somewhat-advanced-users to pick the _current_ installed > > kernel and optimise it to there machine in an *automated* way? > > > No. > That would be a worthwhile project for a prospective developer. > I'd do something like: > - iterate /sys, looking for the devices > - track to their drivers (either by looking at what's loaded, or >comparing modalias to MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE) > - figure out the CONFIG entry > - spit out a config Would that need a spec to be tracked? I may just create a new one copying your suggestion and then hand it over to who ever wants to pick it up. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea? - no.
Olá John e a todos. On Friday 13 February 2009 02:08:35 John Moser wrote: > (read: Firefox RELOADS the tab it was in, it doesn't come back up into the > exact same state it shut down in! This sucks!) Give TabMix Plus (session saver feature) Firefox addon a try. it restores everything to me, even current position in a page. Also there's Text Area addon, that can restore any text form. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea? - no.
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Friday 13 February 2009 18:27:06 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > I have no doubt that it could be solved if people put their minds to > it. System Monitor (or a process-specific buset) could reduce the > priority of your other programs whenever it is running, be special-cased > by the window manager to ensure other windows can't hide it, and so on. There's AND: Description: Auto Nice Daemon The auto nice daemon activates itself in certain intervals and renices jobs according to their priority and CPU usage. Jobs owned by root are left alone. Jobs are never increased in their priority. . The renice intervals can be adjusted as well as the default nice level and the activation intervals. A priority database stores user/group/job tuples along with their renice values for three CPU usage time ranges. Negative nice levels are interpreted as signals to be sent to a process, triggered by CPU usage; this way, Netscapes going berserk can be killed automatically. The strategy for searching the priority database can be configured. . AND also provides network-wide configuration files with host-specific sections, as well as wildcard/regexp support for commands in the priority database. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user
Olá Stefan e a todos. On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:56:32 Stefan Hamminga wrote: > Here is what I've got so far: > > for mod in `((lspci -v | grep -i "Kernel driver in use: " | cut -b 24-) && > (lspci -v | grep -i "Kernel modules: " | cut -b 18-)) | sort -u` ; do > echo `grep $mod $(find -name Makefile) | grep -v debian | sed > s/.*obj-\$\(// | sed s/\).*// | grep CONFIG` > done Running this here just outputs a bunch of empty lines -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: NX/PAE on i386
Olá John e a todos. On Friday 13 February 2009 22:03:30 John Moser wrote: > 1. Ship -generic as an i686 kernel with PAE, so that NX works > 2. Ship -legacy as an i486 kernel without PAE From what I've read on the ubuntu-kernel ML the idea is to cut down on the number of available kernels. Your idea is to add one more. I dont think they will put it into practise. But feel free to fw your email there. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Fake login screens
Olá Remco e a todos. On Sunday 15 February 2009 14:41:54 Remco wrote: > Someone on this list said that the Windows kernel intercepts this key > sequence and then tells the login screen that it has been pressed Not sure how safe that was/is. When I used to use windows on my old laptop, I didnt like the position of my delete, so I remaped it to another key. That change was saved in the registry, and it would work almost any where after boot. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Notable Changes to Jaunty's PulseAudio
Olá Cody e a todos. On Monday 16 February 2009 12:57:45 Cody A.W. Somerville wrote: > I woke up this morning hoping to be able to listen to some ABBA. > Unfortunately, sound no longer works in my Xubuntu. :( Both PA 9.14 and 9.15~test2 are giving lots of jaunty users problems. I've informed both Luke and upstream on this. From a few tests I run, sound is being sent to the devices, but doesnt reach the buffer. Killing[1] PA and restarting helps most yours working around the problem, but not all. In my case I never get sound back after hibernate/resume, so I have to kill PA and just use ALSA. This looks similar the race condition we had around alpha3, and Luke said he was going to test that scenario. I hope this gets fixed soon, 'cause the most frequent question on #ubuntu+1 is "Is PA working?" [1] pulseaudio -k ; start-pulseaudio-x11 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Notable Changes to Jaunty's PulseAudio
Olá Dan e a todos. On Tuesday 17 February 2009 17:45:43 Dan Chen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm investigating the fallbacks in alsa-util.c. Now that we use > autospawn, we should loop on: > > 1) open playback device_id:hw: (and capture device_id:hw:),break; > 2) open playback device_id:plughw: (cap plughw:),break; > 3) open playback device_id:plug:dmix: (cap plug:dsnoop:),break; please let me know when this fixed (is there a bug already for this on pa 9.15?) 'cause right now i have no sound since boot, until i kill PA (but i can see pavumeter showing some out put), and flash will not work with just alsa (it would seem we got a 180º curve, heh). -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Installation fails: how to know why? + Audio and video card problems in jaunty
Olá Vincenzo e a todos. On Wednesday 18 February 2009 19:24:09 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > I tried today to install jaunty alpha 4 booting from an usb stick Both 2 an 3 are known, just jump on #ubuntu+1 and someone will hand you the LP bug ids. about the 1st, its the 1st time I ear about it, but not many using Ext4 yet, due to lack of support of GUI tools. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Introducing apport-collect: attach apport hook information to existing bugs
Olá Martin e a todos. On Thursday 19 February 2009 13:03:26 Martin Pitt wrote: > A long standing request [2] was to provide a tool which provides the > same functionality for already existing bugs. I. e. if a submitter > reported a bug against xorg directly through the Launchpad UI, you can > now ask him to run > > apport-collect 12345 I would love to see this, but its failing to build https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/0.132/+build/875501 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: RFC: Ubuntu Gateway
Olá John e a todos. On Thursday 19 February 2009 22:09:48 John Moser wrote: > I pondered this ages ago and I'll ponder it again: Network gateway. Why re-invent the wheel? shorewall already does all you want, and its FOSS. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Improving resume speed
Jaunty had/has the objective to have a fast startup (<25 secs), But the current technique to resume hibernated machines (using the kernel mode) is too slow, and doesnt use compression. pm-utils (pm-hibernate via s2disk) currently does this, and have a much nicer UI (it shows progress), but unfortunately it got broken last weekend on jaunty [1]. Since we are past FF, is there any interest in fixing this for koala? Either by improving the kernel mode, or using s2disk. Some devs keep mentioning that this approach brakes many setups, but it I have never had probs it with on all my machines, and it even works when the kernel mode doesnt. Maybe we can set an easier option for an user to change this (other then to alter /etc/pm/config.d/00sleep_module), or use one, and then fallback to the other if this fails. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/331101 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Auto-launching of applications
Olá Matthew e a todos. FYI a bug was opened after a bit of chat on #ubuntu+1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 [Jaunty] Removal of Update Notifier is WRONG -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Auto-launching of applications
Olá Mark e a todos. On Wednesday 25 February 2009 09:40:04 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > 4. opening a system modal window in the foreground (obviously, this is only > for total emergencies) Even in the case of emergency, can these *popups* not take control of keyboard (and may I even dare to say the mouse, if it already above the window) ? I'm not wishing for something like Mozilla's count down, of course (those who like that, can now throw me rocks), but some method that requires user *action* over the popup, and not accidental click. > and apologise that the initial landing wasn't smooth - > in particular for our core dev team and beta / development release > users, who of course are a key part of the community. Since these > changes had been discussed at UDS, we didn't expect such a big surprise, > but we should have announced the changes here when they landed and > provided a forum for this discussion. I've started a thread a few weeks back, on both -devel and -devel-discuss, called: [RFC] Improve communication with testing users about master key changes in development branches that didnt get much traction, and in the light of your words I would like to resurrect. The "beta / development release users" need a clear source of information of thing that are going to change, what changed, how it changed, and is this upstream or (x/k)ubuntu only. There was the discussion that some devs are leaving the devel-discuss list, but I see many users on #ubuntu+1 that arent on -devel ml, and it seems that most of the "hot topics" are announced/flamed here (and I guess the rest on IRC weekly meeting). James has been doing a great job with his technical news bulletins, and the meetings resume are also great. But the problem remains: the information there is scarce and most of the times post-applied. Again, I would like to state that I dont want to impose even more workload with providing updates (I know most of you hate _paperwork_ as much as I do), but we need to have a better way to communicate this changes, in a away that doesnt create noise for TeamDevs, but actually makes the broad testing community to get it. _Now the hard part_, I have no idea what that way is. A new [announce]ML? a wiki? a feed on fridge? I'm open to suggestions, but one thing is clear: it needs to be short, concise, multi formated (feed,email,etc), *pre*-changes (so that healthy discussion can come from it, even if it means that some users/devs will flag it until eventually they learn the extra value of future changes), and finally appealing to the testers so that they actually want to have it. > So, thanks to Bruce Cowan for raising the thread. bruce89 wink ;) -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Improving resume speed
Olá Steve e a todos. On Wednesday 25 February 2009 17:45:07 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:48:18PM -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > Kernel modesetting for graphics was mentioned as a possibility for Karmic. > > That should make the flicker time for graphics after resuming from suspend > > shorten considerably. > > I believe he's talking about hibernate rather than suspend, where the > largest cost is reading the kernel image back from disk. Yes, of course. I meant resume from Hibernation (with kernel mode or usw) -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Auto-launching of applications
Olá David e a todos. On Thursday 26 February 2009 11:54:54 David Barth wrote: > (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > The popups we're displaying (update manager is an example) are set with > set_focus_on_map to FALSE, which means they shouldn't steal the focus. > > This was recently added to the developer's guideline document here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDevelopmentGuidelines Yes, I've been keeping pair with the discussion, and have read the guidelines. Still we can expect that some applications will not obey what the WM states. > See https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/333284 I got that link from the meetings minutes, and am already subscribed to it. You can see me there _waiving_! > > I've started a thread a few weeks back, on both -devel and -devel-discuss, > > called: > > [RFC] Improve communication with testing users about master key changes in > > development branches > > that didnt get much traction, and in the light of your words I would like > > to resurrect. > > > Sorry if I miss the point here, but aren't the release notes meant for > that? If they are updated during the development cycle, that would > provide a good feed to subscribe to, and is still in a format > appropriate for listing /major/ changes impacting a user (as opposed to > a full changelog for developers). Please to my original email, where I mention that. Currently, during development there isnt a Release Note, but only Milestone and Technical Overview. As I said before, this information is dispersed (ok in this case it even makes sense since they are targeted to different users), but I (and many more testers) feel that it still lacks some of the reasoning. Besides it also lacks the changes done upstream and ported to ubuntu land. I already discuss this with Dan on the List, and with Alexander on IRC. I got the feeling that Canonical devs feel that upstream changes should be ported and let the community find by them selves what and how it changed. Please understand that I have no intention of flaming anyone here, just wishing to improve how things are done for the benefit of the community and testers. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Improving resume speed
Olá Chow e a todos. On Thursday 26 February 2009 14:28:01 Chow Loong Jin wrote: > Yes, so regarding this issue, why don't we make s2disk the default for > pm-utils? It does seem to have more benefits than the plain old kernel method. For me it has been safe, but according to the guys on #ubuntu-devel it causes breakage on many systems. But according to LP there are only 16 bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Problem installing Adobe Flash Player
Olá Surfaz e a todos. On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:35:40 Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: > sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ Is it there or on: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Default font size in gnome
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:59:28 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > I have a 1280x800 13" screen, and the fonts look fine to me. Hi have a 13" at 1280x800 (DPI 112 according to xorg log) and I have to increase mine, but I dont see as good as I used to. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Default font size in gnome
Olá Ryan e a todos. On Thursday 26 February 2009 19:50:06 Ryan Hayle wrote: > but you will need to measure it yourself to be 100% sure. Just divide 1280 > and 800 by the width and height (in > inches), respectively, to get your DPI values. $ xdpyinfo |grep resolution resolution:112x112 dots per inch but measuring I have: ~116x114. When the update hit the repos, I reported it as requested by the Technical Overview: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325868 That was even closed by the triager, before I explained it was solicited by the TO wiki page -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Default font size in gnome
Olá Chris e a todos. On Friday 27 February 2009 17:27:22 Chris Cheney wrote: > > Hi have a 13" at 1280x800 (DPI 112 according to xorg log) and I have to > > increase mine, but I dont see as good as I used to. > > It seems strange that you needed to increase the font size when your DPI > setting increased. Just changing the DPI from 96 to 112 should have made > your font increase ~ 17% in pixels for the same given font size. > > eg: > > 12/72 * 96 = 16.0 px > 12/72 * 112 = 18.7 px no no... after i got HUGE fonts, i reset the DPI to 96 (looked better) and then on certain apps, i just increase the font size (like kmail or firefox). Guess i'll have to reset my font size and just try to increase the DPI to a nice value. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Default font size in gnome
Olá Ryan e a todos. On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:57:05 Ryan Hayle wrote: > On 01/03/09 10:29, (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > > no no... after i got HUGE fonts, i reset the DPI to 96 (looked > > better) and then on certain apps, i just increase the font size > > (like kmail or firefox). > > Guess i'll have to reset my font size and just try to increase the > > DPI to a nice value. > > DPI is a physical characteristic of your display device, not a user > preference. It should always be set to the correct value, unless you're > using a projector or something. But 112 DPI is just "bad". I would make me change the font size on ALL other applications, besides GNOME Appearance. I'll boot a daily LiveCD and test there, to not mess my current settings... maybe i'm not seeing this correctly. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Messaging Indicator (was: Notifications: uselessness of)
Olá Ted e a todos. On Monday 02 March 2009 15:17:20 Ted Gould wrote: > You should have it installed, but if not, you should install the > indicator-messages package. ah so thats what that is. I've had that for weeks now! Having both left and right click do the samething is bad UI, no? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Messaging Indicator (was: Notifications: uselessness of)
Olá Ted e a todos. On Monday 02 March 2009 22:53:54 Ted Gould wrote: > One of the goals of this interface is to provide an easy way for KDE > applications to work on GNOME and vice versa while still providing this > type of functionality. I really hate that people are forced to choose a > set of programs based on their desktop to avoid loosing functionality of > their favorites. I hope that we're on a path to users choosing the best > application independent of the desktop they like. Like no support of Kmail notifications on GNOME? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Developer Documentation feedback
Olá Jorge e a todos. On Tuesday 03 March 2009 00:00:08 Jorge O. Castro wrote: > I am interested in gathering feedback on the state of our developer > documentation. I just don't want feedback from doc people but from > Ubuntu developers themselves who have been consuming these docs. > Currently the developer link from ubuntu.com points people to this > page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment > I am wondering if perhaps we should have a more focused set of pages > that makes it easier for people to drill down into a specific area of > development as opposed to "One Big Page" or if we should start looking > at something a bit more structured? I've heard many developer-friends > of mine (who are not involved in Ubuntu) say that they wish Linux had > an equivalent of the documentation that is in something like MSDN > because they can never find anything and get lost in a bunch of wiki > pages. What I miss most is a full index (like TRAC has) (with optionally some snippets of the text inside). Navigating our Wikis is a mess without Google. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: removal of logout/shutdown options from the GNOME (was Foundations Team Weekly Summary, 2009-02-25=
Olá Robbie e a todos. On Monday 02 March 2009 23:03:06 Robbie Williamson wrote: > * Discovered that the removal of logout/shutdown options from the GNOME > system > menu was a UI decision. After fuming about that for 5 minutes, set about > working > out the gconf changes needed to re-enable these for accessibility > profiles/installs. > * Started drafting an email to devel-discuss about the above mentioned UI > issue. I don't think even average users will like this much. After audio and updates, that is the 3rd most asked question on #ubuntu+1. Can you have something on Release Notes, if this doesnt get reverted? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: grub2 spec (was Foundations Team Weekly Summary, 2009-02-25)
Olá Robbie e a todos. On Monday 02 March 2009 23:03:06 Robbie Williamson wrote: > Specs > * grub2 spec drafted and submitted for review Link please. Thanks -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
human-icon-theme (0.33.2) jaunty; urgency=low * Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon -- Kenneth Wimer Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:36:53 +0100 Can this be reverted? The new icon is very deceiving, making me think I have my WiFi On, but with no signal. I rather have the old icon back. Thanks -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Nicolò e a todos. On Saturday 07 March 2009 13:11:29 Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > proposal 1: we have 4 kind of network devices in the system (eth, > wifi, gprs, modem). It's not a good idea to forget the other icons. > So the best proposal for me would be a 'morphing' icon that is before > a cable + red cross (if an ethernet device is available), then the 0 > signal wifi + red cross (if a wifi device is available), the the 0 > signal gprs + red cross (if a gprs device is available), then a modem > + red cross (if a modem device is available). I like the idea of the red cross! -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Mat e a todos. On Saturday 07 March 2009 11:17:32 Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > Is it confusing just because it's different to what you've been used to? > I know it's not a justification, but OSX have been using exactly the > same metaphor for many years now and it seems to be working out very well. Never used a mac so i cant say, but i like the old icon, thats why i emailed the list in the 1st place! took me a few ours and reading the change log to understand why the heck my wifi was at zero, even though I hadnt connected it yet.. even restarted NM daemon and nm-applet to be sure. > There was a significant problem with the old icon (2 monitors), it was > *totally* mysterious (what 2 monitors have to do with network > connection?) and we had many complaints. mysterious?? it works *very* well to me. are we starting another UM word war? why do u guys feel the need to change what is *already* great? Complains? can you give us one LP bug please? > 1. The *only* way to connect to a wireless network (which is the essence > of connectivity these days) is by clicking on the network icon. > Therefore it should be something that users would associate with > wireless networking. I use wired everyday... how about that.. how wait... where do I press now to setup a manual IP? I only see and antena icon enh? > I appreciate critical voices, but please be constructive. One thing I'm > sure of is that we will not bring back the old icon. :) > Any suggestions as to how to improve the current situation are more than > welcome! Earlier I saw one: red cross!!! -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Packaging Training
Olá Daniel e a todos. On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:54:23 Daniel Holbach wrote: > - Have weekly one-hour sessions in #ubuntu-classroom that consist >of a short demonstration and offer plenty of time to ask all kind >of questions. +1 I really like the idea. Count me in to learn a bit more, in the one of next Classes. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Thursday 12 March 2009 09:54:05 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The Design team has just discussed this and we agree it's confusing. The > two-monitors icon sucked, but our first try at a replacement wasn't so > hot. :-) We will have another go, considering the cross and slash > possibilities proposed here, and we'll seek a UI freeze exception for > 9.04 for a replacement icon. On tonight's Linux Class, I went and asked my students (most of them are using GNU/Linux for the 1st time, and systems have Ubuntu 8.10) what they thought about the update-notifier (and it was showing Critical updates) and the NM icon. Sure UM was confusing at 1st, but after explaining some used it latter to get a PPA update. The NM icon didnt made any of them (at least the ones who replied) confused, and only a girl had trouble finding the VPN setting. One user had trouble understanding why the icon changed from wired to areal icon once he connected to wifi, but 3 secs later just forgot about it, cause it worked. When I mentioned that the new icon would just be the areal one, most asked "why?". Talking to Linux long(er) time users and mentioning the UM change (no easy icon, popunder window) they all get scared. I'll let you know more after next classes and our monthly LoCoTeam meeting. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: aufs based upgrade tests
Olá Michael e a todos. On Friday 13 March 2009 18:19:28 Michael Vogt wrote: > during the last UDS we talked informally about using the "aufs" > overlay filesystem layer for release upgrade testing. I build a > prototype implementation of this now that should be ok for public > testing. > > The idea discussed with Evan Dandrea (and others) was to create a > writable overlay into /tmp on top the systemdirs in "/" and then run > the release upgrade. This way we can test easily if the system would > upgrade cleanly (if no dpkg errors/maintainer script failures > happen). All writes go into /tmp so after the upgrade and on the next > reboot the system is back to its pre-upgraded state again (modulo > /home, that is not overlayed). It also means the next boot takes a > *long* time to clean /tmp - when I did test it on one of my production > machines that wait made me *really* nervous :) But its ok, it just takes > long (up to ~20 minutes or so). > > Feedback is welcome This idea seems like a really nice idea, and one that in some other form is requested by users/testers. I would like to add to points: * if all tests go OK, and we end up with this on koala (to late for FFe on jaunty, right?), a checkbox when using update-manager -d / cli question on do-release-upgrade to use Sandbox would be much nicer then running all that code. * to save the system state prior to upgrade, so that a user can restore the system if even after successful package upgrade, some application/kernel/driver upgrade doesnt go as good. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Mat e a todos. On Monday 16 March 2009 10:58:55 Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > That's an interesting feedback, thanks. However, I would not treat Linux > Class students as representative for the population of all potential > Ubuntu users :) Most of them are brand new users, using a GNU/Linux distro for the 1st time. It seems exactly the target ppl. > The request to change the icon came originally from various OEMs we cooperate > with So OEMs now count more then Community? Thanks, that was exactly what *we* wanted to here. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Mat e a todos. On Monday 16 March 2009 19:28:46 Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > It's difficult for me (and I think for anyone) to consider statements > like that a constructive dialogue. I'm the OP of this thread! I was the one who asked for an explanation of why the icon changed (without prior consultant of the ubuntu testers community) and if it was possible to redo. I also posted opinions from new users (latter agree to be the target public). If my statements dont always look as you would like them to look, place your self on my shoes where stuff i've been seeing in its place for 3 years all of the sudden changes, and all I get is: "OEMs closed studies says so". > :) There's that smile again. Unless your close to me, and I find you funny, most of the meaning of using it on a serious thread is lost. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Mat e a todos. On Tuesday 17 March 2009 09:59:21 Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > - we have at least 3 types of network connections that should be > represented by the appropriate icon: > 1. Wireless > 2. Wired > 3. 3G 4. VPNs 5. Bluetooth threading > Each of these has potentially 4 different states: > - card present, but switched off > - card present, but no connection > - connecting > - connection established (w/various signal strenghts for wireless and 3G) - Encrypted - Non-encrypted With all of this the WPA/WPA2 symbol was lost too Now I never know if I'm connected to a protected network or a Open one! -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Mat e a todos. On Tuesday 17 March 2009 14:31:59 Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > - why not show separate icons for all connection types in the panel? because gnome, kde, freedesktop all want to reduce the number of stuff on the notification bar. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Tuesday 17 March 2009 21:26:05 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > I thought he was saying that the OEMs agreed with you... I'm sleepy and have bad memory, but AFAIR this all tread as been kept active because Design Team as one or more _closed source_ studies from OEMs that state that the old icon as bad UI, while most of us actually like it and understood it. The current icon is way better then the one that lead me to email the list so thanks for listening to us, showing that asking us for feedback can and will make Ubuntu better, without the need for us to brining fire and rocks to the table. Now we only have to expect that the Design Team (and other not so Community driven Canonical Task forces) talk to us, let us know their ideas, put them on a PPA and let us try them to get feedback. We have seen the Artwork Team do this in the past and AFAIR it worked out pretty well, dont you? As promised, I again asked today, the new batch of students of my FOSS class, while showing off Ubuntu (GNOME) 8.10, what they though about the update-notifier icon, and the NM icon. As expected (by me and many others here) pretty much all of them stated that to see an *red* icon popup on the tray would lead them to either hover the mouse over to see a balloon or click on it. A popunder was heavily discourage by the more advanced users too. Since all of them came from Windows, the NM icon was a well known icon, but gave them extra options. The only thing they always request me to show them is to explain how to get VPN working (mandatory on our University). It has a been a *long* standing bug to include NM-PPTP on the default Desktop install (but size restrains, not many users using it, etc) as kept it back, but needing net to install a package to have network seems a bit ironic to me! Also the new NM interface to set a VPN requires a few extra mouse clicks (after NM-pptp is installed), making it an even more hard to get concept. Going OT, would any one go For or Against having NM vpn option auto launching some kind of VPN friendly UI to get the NM-pptp/openvpn/cvpn like we do for codecs? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Friday 20 March 2009 11:29:56 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Thanks for your efforts. I hope you can understand I can, of course. I'm not a one side person... I listen to all sides if possible. Thanks for your efforts. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu
Olá George e a todos. On Thursday 19 March 2009 15:04:55 George Farris wrote: > You know what would be very cool for new users. Once they have a > package installed and decide they don't want it anymore, they could > right click on the application menu item and see "Uninstall program". > This would immediately remove the package, appropriate dialogs and > authorizations would be in effect of course.. +1 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Large files under ubuntu do not appear to work
Olá Stephan e a todos. On Monday 23 March 2009 07:55:46 Stephan Hermann wrote: > Hopefully you play all with GPT partition labels and not with msdos > labels... > > as for msdos labels (which is the default) you won't come over 2TB > (reading as disk vendor means: 1000bytes == 1KB and not 1024bytes == > 1KByte) Care to explain this further, so those that down know, can learn? Thanks in advance. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Best practice for reporting bugs
Olá Stewart e a todos. On Friday 27 March 2009 00:09:11 Stewart Johnston wrote: > Slightly to one side, when Apport starts and walks me through the > process of filing a bug, the first thing I do is nip off and search > Launchpad for the same bug, then if I find one I cancel apport. Its just a petty that the apport logs are lost when you mark it as a dupe of an existing one. I've seen triagers/devs request for that info. I've even filed new bugs just to have apport upload the data, and then manually dupe it to the master bug, mentioning that I have a dupe with new apport data. Cant the apport data still be uploaded to dupes, until some flag* is added saying no more apport data is needed (saving storage on LP) ? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Fuseau Horaire TUNISIE] Passage à l'heure d'été annulé cette année.
Olá Oedipe e a todos. On Sunday 29 March 2009 08:37:18 Oedipe wrote: > Je suis réglé en automatique sur le fuseau horaire Afrique/Tunis avec > pour serveur NTP "europe.pool.ntp.org". > Ce matin je suis passé à l'heure d'été automatiquement. > > Or la Tunisie a officiellement annulé par décret le passage à l'heure > d'été cette année. > > Je pense qu'une maintenance des "Time Zone" serait souhaitable pour > tenir compte de cette nouvelle particularité. You will need to file a bug on launchpad against tzdata $ apport-cli -fp tzdata Thanks for the help. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Fwd: Attention Jaunty Alpha eCryptfs Users...
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Monday 30 March 2009 04:58:21 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > This was only sent to -devel, but I figure there are likely some alpha > testers > on -devel-discuss to whom this may apply... And announce ML, and even Technical Overview. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Fwd: Attention Jaunty Alpha eCryptfs Users...
> And announce ML, and even Technical Overview. Already there: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview?action=diff&rev1=111&rev2=112 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: jaunty DVD
Olá bown e a todos. On Wednesday 01 April 2009 12:45:21 richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > Is this a known bug or do I file a new bug report ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/317457 Just add to xorg : Option "DRI" "false" No 3D but at least it works. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Thursday 02 April 2009 09:47:32 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > For example here, if measurement has shown that downloading on average > takes 60% of the time and installing on average takes 40 % of the time, > and you're installing updates where the downloading is 80 % complete and > the installation is 10 % complete, the progress bar should be 60 % × 80 > % + 40 % × 10 % = 34 % full. That will fail on one very simple example: I can be connected on 2G network in one day, and on a 100mb/s one the next day. The time to download the updates will be very very different, while the time to install them on the same HW would be ~ the same. Plus many users/companies have local repos (mirrors, apt-cacher, squid). -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1
Olá Remco e a todos. On Thursday 02 April 2009 14:12:00 Remco wrote: > One wishlist idea I have is that updates can be installed without having to > provide a password. There's a public wishbug to allow Security Updates to be auto-installed, as an option available on OEM,regular installer an on Software Properties, under the tab Updates. I dont believe that regular updates should be auto installed, because it could lead to more regressions. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Strawman] GPM should have user profiles
With all the talk about mobility one thing as been forgotten: Power Manager Profiles. An user can have the same PC/laptop/netbook at Home, Office, On The Road, etc All of those require different sets of power management. I can leave my PC at Home suspend when I'm away for more then 30 min, but at the Office I may want it always on for VoIP incoming calls. At home its darker and I need more LCD bright, while at the office, I'm close to the window, so I need extra light, where as On The Road I need it at 100%. Having an option on GPM-preferences, and even better, at FUSA would be great. I've opened a bug at LP and upstream: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/357719 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578383 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Strawman] GPM should have user profiles
Olá Chris e a todos. On Wednesday 08 April 2009 15:05:55 Chris Coulson wrote: > You should probably open an enhancement request on the Bugzilla for that - I did that I mentioned it on my 1st mail > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578383 But upstream has now closed it with WontFix, because of previous discussions. I'm trying to find the logs of this, and the rational behind it, and also how can the same functionality be obtained any other way. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re:>20M users ( Please don't automatic upgrade )
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:27:41 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > That approach might scale to about 10 million users max -- or maybe 20 million > when you buy any of the several computers they have with Ubuntu preinstalled. You mean to say that there are now over 20M Ubuntu users? As a FOSS and Ubuntu advocate I would like to see hard data on that, so I can link to it. Thanks. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: CD burning: Audio, mixed, and MP3 CDs
Olá John e a todos. On Saturday 11 April 2009 00:28:33 John Moser wrote: > I have a stereo system in my car. It can't read DVD-Audio (... why? > WHY DOES NOTHING SUPPORT DVD-A?!), or even a DVD+R with MP3s burned on > it (WHY?!). It can read a CD-R with MP3s burned on it, and read M3U > playlists. No need to scream... Can it even read DVDs? Maybe its just a CDRom player! -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: CD burning: Audio, mixed, and MP3 CDs
Olá Evan e a todos. On Saturday 11 April 2009 02:54:14 Evan wrote: > Auto-transcoding in rhythmbox has been on my wishlist for a > long time. If someone familiar with the Rhythmbox code would be kind enough > to point me in the right direction, I'd be willing to work on it for Karmic, > time permitting. Upstream development for Rhythmbox has halted. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/rhythmbox-devel/2009-February/msg00023.html -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: A bothersome window behavior
Olá hakaishi e a todos. On Monday 06 April 2009 10:45:24 hakai...@web.de wrote: > Whenever I open a partition the window opens in background. As far as I read > in some Forums > people are also annoyed about the POP-UPs that open in background, like the > info-pop-up > for rebooting because of some updates. new nautilus window stays in background https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66 -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Pedro Fragoso (ember) is a MOTU
Olá Nathan e a todos. On Thursday 23 April 2009 20:19:26 Nathan Handler wrote: > Pedro has done a great job in working with the Ubuntu Desktop Team. He > has performed Gnome updates, bugfixes, merges and even LPI changes. We > are happy to announce that he has just joined the MOTU team. > > Please give him a warm welcome to the team. Parabéns Pedro. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Jaunty's update notifications
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Friday 24 April 2009 09:59:08 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > If not, why on earth not? > > That's something we need to discuss further. There are benefits to > installing security updates automatically, but there are also costs, > especially with updates to programs such as Firefox that malfunction if > you are running them while they are being updated. And because, some may require services to be restarted, which is never a good idea. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: karmic upload request: syslinux-3.80...
Olá Daniel e a todos. On Sunday 10 May 2009 23:28:25 Daniel J Blueman wrote: > At present, karmic has syslinux-3.63, however 3.80 is available in debian sid: > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/syslinux > > I'd like to request someone queues the upload for before the alpha-1 > cut, if possible. A sync request has been open for half an year https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/270822 The reply I got from the dev behind it, is that it requires manual changes, but no one ever ends up doing them, -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Reproducible w3m bug
Olá Sitsofe e a todos. On Friday 15 May 2009 12:14:31 Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: > That's reasonable too but w3m is installed by default and if it's used by so > few > perhaps it shouldn't be there by default - it strikes me as unsafe to be > putting > packages that can't be supported on people's systems out of the box. Wouldn't > it > be better to migrate to products that were actively maintained? Your comment > clearly stands for rrootage though. That remind me of another thing: Should package that are in Universe and unmaintained[1] show that in Launchpad and _suggest_ the user to upstream them? I understand that _not_ all user will know/want to do that, but at least it would allow more experienced bug filling users to be more alerted to this problems. A LP team could be created and members of such team could then see this extra info directly on the bug filling page, that way, regular users would be undisturbed by this extra info. What do you guys think? [1] I know that identifying unmaintained packages is not easy, specially since any one (coredev, MOTU, etc) can at any given time start to work on "those" packages. Maybe it could be done by a ratio of number of bugs and triaged ones ? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Cron jobs too heavy for ordinary systems (system completely unusable for a while)
Olá Vincenzo e a todos. On Saturday 23 May 2009 12:10:58 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > I am running jaunty. Sometimes, randomly, the disk starts spinning (I > hear the noise and see the light) and the system becomes unusable. > Often, to gain control of a shell (even in console) is a matter of > waiting minutes and eventually, when I finally can do some "top" "iotop" > or "ps" to understand what's happening, the storms is already calmed and > I can't see anything. I am not running trackerd on this machine (and > with last year of development, it's rarely the culprit). I just notice my system slowing down and disk activity to max. running atop on TTY4 I saw updatedb hamering the disk. Wasnt it supposed to run at something like 2am? its 9pm now. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Cron jobs too heavy for ordinary systems (system completely unusable for a while)
Olá Vincenzo e a todos. On Saturday 23 May 2009 12:26:04 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Perhaps this is a bug in the kernel related to suspend. I will > investigate again the problem in the following days. After 3 or 4 hibernate/resume cycles my system tends to slow down a lot. So usually i have to reboot after 2 or 3 days. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Jaunty 64-bit and NVIDIA -- Any ideas?
Olá Davyd e a todos. On Monday 25 May 2009 06:59:05 Davyd McColl wrote: > What I want to know is: is this common for 64-bit systems (to have dodgy > proprietary (ie, NVIDIA / ATI) drivers)? I've been running 64 bits on this laptop (with NVidia FeForce 8400) and the close source driver, since 7.10 up to 9.10a1. I never noticed anything as you describe, other then a "few" lookups due to bad driver or kernel bug. -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)
Olá Chan e a todos. On Wednesday 03 June 2009 15:57:58 Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > You have ENTIRE communities of Linux users who have never even heard of > kibi/mebi/gibi let alone the IEC. Let me take this a bit out of context: you have entire countries who never heard of FOSS or GNU/Linux. Should that stop us from improving this movement and OS? -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Support data gathering tool
Olá Przemek e a todos. On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:47:24 Przemek Kulczycki wrote: > What about the forums/answers.lp.net - will the users be able to > attach apport's reports to forums or support requests? Apport can be set to do a dry run, and not submit the logs to Launchpad, but stored locally. The user only needs to get them and upload them to where s/he needs them. I'm just not sure if this logs are on /tmp or /var/crash -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Support data gathering tool
On Thursday 11 June 2009 01:19:02 (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > Apport can be set to do a dry run, and not submit the logs to Launchpad, but > stored locally. > The user only needs to get them and upload them to where s/he needs them. > I'm just not sure if this logs are on /tmp or /var/crash $ apport-cli -p kate -f *** Collecting problem information The collected information can be sent to the developers to improve the application. This might take a few minutes. ... *** Send problem report to the developers? After the problem report has been sent, please fill out the form in the automatically opened web browser. What would you like to do? Your options are: S: Send report (5.7 KiB) V: View report K: Keep report file for sending later or copying to somewhere else C: Cancel Please choose (S/V/K/C): k Problem report file: /tmp/apport.8iqtBI.txt -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Better clipboard management?
Olá Danny e a todos. On Wednesday 17 June 2009 00:11:52 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > I've recently been bothered more and more by Ubuntu's lack of better > clipboard management. I don't know all the details but i think we could > really do with a clipboard manager installed by default. I don't know much > about this, and would appreaciate input, but from what i've read, GCM or > Glipper seems to be two good candidates for the job. > http://gcm.sourceforge.net/http://glipper.sourceforge.net/ been using parcelite since Jaunty, and it seem to be in good state on karmic. +1 from me -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Murphy prohibits Ubuntu 9.04 installation
Olá Elmar e a todos. On Saturday 13 June 2009 15:44:19 Elmar Krieger wrote: > I thought about filing a bug report, but at > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem I found a lengthy > explanation how to file bugs from within Ubuntu, which obviously doesn't > work without internet connection. Although using apport/ubuntu-bug to file bugs is a much better way to do it, nothing is stopping you from simply visiting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and file a new one with all the info you know. If more is required, a triager or a dev will ask for it. > I posted this feedback hoping that the people in charge of the various > problem sections stumble across and find it useful. You don't have to > waste time helping me out, I booted to one of the other 12 partitions > and will be back to try the next Ubuntu release ;-) Well if you are eager to help make the next release in better shape for the next release why not get a karmic daily image (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/) and run it a few hours per week? Join us on #ubuntu+1 at irc.ubuntu.com. Thanks -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Flash, and 32 vs. 64
Olá Patrick e a todos. On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:57:56 Patrick Goetz wrote: > Once we switched to using the 64-bit Flash alpha plugin, the 64-bit > firefox was slightly faster than the 32-bit version. As far as I can > tell, the 64-bit Flash plugin is fairly stable and works with all the > content we could think to try out. I've been using the 64 bits flash from adobe since the day it came out, without any major problem directly related to it. I do notice it is *much* lighter then nspluginwrapper. The only downfall is not having auto-updates for it, but thats only because, from what gnomefreak told me, there isnt a tarball and MD5 with all we need to package it. :( -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: about empathy as the default IM application
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Tuesday 16 June 2009 22:33:07 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > I don't actually know anybody that used OOo on Windows before they used it on > Linux. I did, and I've set *many* windows users to use OOo, even if they never run linux in their lives! -- Hi, I'm BUGabundo, and I am Ubuntu (whyubuntu.com) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Load 2.0, idle 99% ?
Olá Markus e a todos. On Monday 01 February 2010 18:47:13 Markus Hitter wrote: > All processes show up near 0% as well. > > How can a cpu be loaded and idle at the same time? What should I > watch out for to track down the bug (of at least the display being > stuck)? powertop and atop tend to show really good hints in this cases. ps and yes, finally i returned to the ML :P -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The 9.10 boot loader progress bar
Olá MPR e a todos. On Monday 25 January 2010 17:32:47 MPR wrote: > I'm a highly-technical user and I like having no text during boot. My > laptop goes from the HP logo to black screen and then the Ubuntu logo. > It looks nice, clean, and professional. If something goes wrong, I can > always hit esc to make the GRUB menu come up at boot and edit the > entry to remove "quiet splash" to see the messages for debugging. You mean left shift, cause ESC does nothing in GRUB2 -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Olá Rene e a todos. On Friday 29 January 2010 06:59:34 Rene Veerman wrote: > I've often got more than 20 windows open while coding. > > On windows, one can shift-alt-tab to move back 1 spot in the list of > apps you're alt-tabbing through.. > > can ubuntu do the same? by default, please? I've seen this in several installs. Its a bug, cause another compiz plugin shares the same shortcut, so it does nothing at all. Probably the other plugin should default to another shortcut, but then you will see users of such plugin complain sigh -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Olá Rene e a todos. Please avoid Top-Posting, and use and abuse of Snipping. Thanks in advance. Reply below: On Tuesday 02 February 2010 21:28:07 Rene Veerman wrote: > ok i got compizconfig setting manager installed, but can't find a > way to search which plugin has which keybinding. > do i need to check all the pages of each enabled plugin? :( You can do a search (advance search) for keybindings. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Removing Ubuntu releases, just Ubuntu
Olá Dmitrijs e a todos. On Saturday 16 January 2010 01:07:34 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > Have you ever tried running development release from day 1? I do it in VM and > in no way it is usable as everyday desktop. Going a bit OT here, but since Ubuntu 6.10 beta I've been running devel versions and I'm still here. both karmic and lucid from as early as week one. Yes there are problems, yes you must be somewhat ready for this, but it works. and the best part, you are helping to get a better release. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
