Re: It is time to use MATE DE as default desktop on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

2017-10-22 Thread Khurshid Alam


Hi,

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:

Dear Ubuntu users and developers!

I just installed the newest Ubuntu 17.10 with a new version of GNOME 
Shell, pretending to be Unity.
This release is very important, because it determines the future of 
the next LTS version - 18.04.


I want to share my impressions on 17.10. In short, it's a total 
nightmare.


I am not Ubuntu-dev, but I agree that it's not a nice experience.

Why can not I change the behaviour of the window (,  
for fixing it Always on top or  to maximize it) with the standard 
shortcut? This functionality has existed for years. To whom did she 
interfere? (see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1725706 ).


Not sure. But we could still do that in Unity. No?


Why do we need this new-fashioned Shell? Why can not programs be 
categorized as they were before?

You can see GNOME FlashBack and MATE DE as good examples.


You  can install extension to achieve that. The default gnome is bad.


GNOME Shell does not improve productivity at all. Even Unity was more 
convenient.
How do I explain to a person by phone what he should do to run a 
program?
How can I find the program in this menu, if I do not know exactly its 
name and keywords on which it can be found? GNOME Shell can't speedup 
this process.


Again extension and you will get you programs (categorised) back. May 
be Ubuntu should install this by default.

There are gno-menu, application-menu and arc menu to choose from.
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1228/arc-menu/


Why are the icons in the new system tray so small? (see bug 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1263228 ).


Theme issue. Use a different icon theme

Why are the Wi-Fi, Ethernet, Bluetooth and VPN status icons hidden by 
default? Horizontal space on modern monitors is wide enough. Why do I 
need an additional "Select network" step when connecting to Wi-Fi? 
Why can not I connect to the network selected in this window by 
double-clicking? Why do I need to see entire desktop shaded the when 
entering the network key? Behind shade, user can hardly see the 
current keyboard layout. Where did the check mark for showing entered 
symbols?


They are visible if available or when required. Bluetooth is different 
story though. Bluez has thousands bugs and one has to be really lucky 
if he wants his bluetooth works out of box.

"Select network" --> Gnome's design. Take it them.
Single click will let you connect to the network.
Keyboard layout is a mess.


Why network indicator with a question mark is displayed in the tray 
on normal Wi-Fi connection (sites in the browser open normally, ping 
works)?


Not sure. Something to do with in security. Check recent changes.


Why is switching windows to  so slow? If I opened two 
terminals, why can not I see them at once? This system for work or 
for what?


Mutter is slow.  It's corrupted at the core and can't easily be fixed. 
So everything window management related is slow.

Btw, new  behaviour came from Ubuntu and similar to Unity.

Why does the terminal open its new instances by default in a new 
window?

Why not in the tab?


You can change that in terminal preferences.

Who removed the keyboard shortcut  to create a new tab? 
(see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1725938 ).


From the bug, keyboard switcher problem.

Why can not I rename the title of the terminal or its tabs? (see bug 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1448511 )


Gnome's design. Take it their mailing list.

What should I do for quick connection to the server, for example via 
FTP, SMB or SSH? Where is the equivalent "Places -> Connect to 
server"? This is a frequently used function.


Nautilus-> Other Locations


Why can not I right click to change the properties of the Gedit 
editor window, and instead the window just minimizes? (see bug 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1725708 ).


Window action menu is broken on wayland. Right-click pressed may work.


Why all local disks are hidden in the Nautilus?


Glib bug or gvfs bug. Still not resolved. Very complected.

Why do I need the "Other locations" button to view all logical drives 
of this computer?


Users can have 10 or more logical drives. So it will make sidebar ugly. 
At least that's reason Gnome gave.


Why can not I create a new blank document from the drop-down menu 
(see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1437502 ).


There was a patch for nautilus which doesn't work any more. But Ubuntu 
should make it work for next release.


Why can not I run graphics applications that require root privileges 
for years to function properly under the Wayland default session?

I do not need such security, I need to work.
(see bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1713313 , 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1713311 and fresh discussion on 
AskUbuntu - https://askubuntu.com/q/961967/66509 ).


Take it wayland dev. Although I don't think it will help.


As a result, I can conclude the following: a modern desktop GNOME, 
not intended for real work.
I understand

Compiz has hundreds of critical bugs in Unity (& other desktop session with compiz) on Utopic & not usable for everyday use

2014-10-31 Thread Khurshid Alam
Hi,

On Utopic (after fresh install & updates) I am experiencing tons of bugs in
Unity & almost nothing really works. The real issue is that, these bugs
affects taking screenshot & desktop video recording which is preventing me
to report any new bugs.

I. 'Show Desktop' on launcher crashes compiz for any Gtk-Headerbar app when
using any third party Gtk(3.12) theme.

How to reproduce on Utopic:

1. sudo apt-get install Numix
2. sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
3. change Gtk theme to Numix
4. Open any app with Gtk-Headerbar (& NOT directly patched by Ubuntu) like
gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-system-log
2. enable show-desktop on unity launcher
3. Click on show-desktop first time. it will show desktop.
4. Click on it again, it crashes compiz & sometimes does not recover from
it. Users have to fallback to TTY & force restart lightdm.

Compiz on other desktop shell/session works relatively well. For example in
Gnome-Flashback-Compiz session this issue doesn't happen.

Filed a bug here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1387163






II. Any desktop recording tool doesn't work with compiz. I tried with
gtk-recordmydesktop & kazaam.

Problems:

1. Unity elements are not visible in the video like dash & sometime right
click menu.

2. Sometime the windows (any) are not visible & appears transparent.

3. It failed to capture any default compiz effect like scale (Super+w)

4. Sometime after completing recording it saves the previously recorded
video! (until I run "compiz --replace").


For example, in this video (http://youtu.be/JQT6LTUXIe8), I opened dash,
searched for terminal & opened it. But in the video nothing is visible.

However, recording works very well in *NON-Compiz* session, i.e.
gnome-flashback (metacity).






III. Screenshot tool (gnome-screenshot)  fails to capture screenshot after
certain time.

How to reproduce:

1. open gnome-screenshot gui. Capture whole screen. save it.
2. open it again. This time capture a window. save it.
3. capture a area don't save it.
4. Repeat 1,2,3 few times.
5. After some time it will show the preview of previously taken screenshot
& save that image. It is impossible to take any new screenshot util I run
"compiz --replace".

not sure what causing this issue but I could not reproduce it on non
compiz session. And If I remember correctly, it did not happen when I was
on couple of updates behind from Utopic beta.


There are other bugs in compiz ( I will file more when I have time) which
affects not only Unity but other compiz desktop-session as well
(gnome-flashback-compiz).

I tried to reset compiz with "dconf reset /org/compiz/ && setsid unity" AND
deleting everything from /home/$user directorybut nothing helped. So
far what I have seen, this release is probably the most unstable (in
compiz) & preventing users to perform even some basic tasks.

Thanks.
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