Re: nvidia binary drivers

2011-02-24 Thread Philip Muskovac

On 02/22/2011 10:49 PM, Patrick Goetz wrote:

On 02/22/2011 06:00 AM, Martin Pitt  wrote:


Patrick Goetz [2011-02-21 14:41 -0600]:

> Does the feature freeze include updating binary drivers?

In principle yes, but as the current nvidia/fglrx drivers in Natty are
totally broken (they are currently not available for the current X.org
ABI), they will be updated by the end of the release (assuming that
there will be a new compatible upstream release up to that point).



That's strange -- there's no mention of this on the nvidia linux amd64
driver page:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-260.19.36-driver.html

are you sure that 260.19.36 is broken as well for x.org 1.10?



the newly released [1] 270.29 beta driver is the first driver to support 
x-server 1.10 as documented on the release page. It's available in the 
x-updates PPA and soon in the archive for natty.



While on the subject, the package naming scheme for the nvidia binary
drivers doesn't make any sense to me:

--
Package nvidia-173-kernel-source
* natty (misc): Transitional package for nvidia-glx-173-kernel-source
[restricted]
173.14.28-0ubuntu4: amd64 i386

Package nvidia-180-kernel-source
* natty (misc): Transitional package for nvidia-glx-185-kernel-source
[restricted]
185.18.36-0ubuntu9: amd64 i386

Package nvidia-185-kernel-source
* natty (misc): Transitional package for nvidia-glx-185-kernel-source
[restricted]
260.19.29-0ubuntu1: amd64 i386
--


Huh? Things seem to have gone off the rail around version 180 and then
got progressively worse. Any chance the package naming scheme can be
rendered sensible, at least for the newest drivers?


As you can see the packages are *transitional* packages. The current 
naming scheme is:


nvidia-96: legacy support (96.43.17-ubuntu1)
nvidia-173: legacy support (173.14.28-0ubuntu4)
nvidia-current: newest available driver at release time (currently 
260.19.29-0ubuntu1 for natty and soon 270.29)


Philip

[1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=159990

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Re: Muon

2010-08-07 Thread Philip Muskovac
On 08/06/2010 01:42 AM, wizard160...@mail.ru wrote:
> Replacing the package manager in KDE on Muon
> 

It won't be the default package manager in Kubuntu but it will be
available in the archive.
Muon is an advanced package manager with features that kpackagekit is
missing,
but for the regular user kpackagekit should be enough.
(That's the situation for maverick at least)

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Re: Is Ubuntu commited to free software?

2010-06-11 Thread Philip Muskovac
On 06/11/2010 12:41 AM, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2010, 19:24 +0200 schrieb Remco:
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 19:10, Remco  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 18:53, Scott Kitterman  wrote:
 Once again:  those are bugs.  Let's just focus on solving the problem in 
 the existing kernel instead of adding another one.

 It's more difficult to segregate the non-free material so it can be 
 provided via the restricted repository for those that want it than it is 
 just to rip it all out,  but that's the way to support both freedom of 
 software and freedom of choice.

>>>
>>> Agreed. My lingering question is, does this bug actually exist? I was
>>> under the impression that all the non-free parts were already removed
>>> when the "free-only" option was selected.
>>
>> Debian, for example, separates the firmware into a free and a non-free 
>> variant:
>> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-linux
>>
>> Ubuntu does not use those package names. Where did the firmware end up
>> in Ubuntu?
> 
> Just search for package with 'firmware' in its name. We have
> linux-firmware in main and linux-firmware-nonfree in multiverse.
> 
> 
Considering the discussion and that linux-firmware is in main:

$ apt-cache policy linux-firmware
linux-firmware:
  Installed: 1.36
  Candidate: 1.36
  Version table:
 *** 1.36 0
500 http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/ubuntu/ maverick/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

shouldn't it be in restricted instead? Or am I misunderstanding
something here...?

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Re: Version naming

2010-01-27 Thread Philip Muskovac
Newer versions of apport (the Ubuntu bug reporting application) add a 
release tag to bug reports starting with Lucid Lynx 10.04 as far as I 
know. You'll find these reports tagged with 'lucid'. Older 'karmic' 
'jaunty' etc. tags can be added by bug reporters and triagers to make 
searching easier.

On 01/27/2010 03:43 AM, Brian Vidal Castillo wrote:
> To fix the bug search behaviour, Launchpad MUST add the tag '9.10' when
> words like Karmic Koala are in the bug reporting or maybe include a
> field in wich the user selects the version.
>
> Maybe only append a '9.10' tag when 'karmic' or 'koala' are set.
>
> For the animal, it's not a good decission to delete it... keeping the
> animal with the adjetive is a good source of inspiration for artists and
> the comunity.
>
> El 10/01/10 20:53, Marco Pallotta escribió:
>> Il giorno dom, 10/01/2010 alle 20.19 +, Mark Ellse ha scritto:
>>
>>> Each version of Ubuntu has, effectively, three names.
>>>
>>> For instance, the latest release is:
>>>
>>> Ubuntu Karmic  or is it Ubuntu 9.10?or is it Ubuntu
>>> Koala?
>>>
>>> The presence of these three names makes it difficult to know how to
>>> search for issues with a particular version.
>>>
>>> It would be much better if each version of Ubuntu was always referred
>>> to by a single name and if two of these three ways or of referring to a
>>> version were dropped.
>>>
>> To say the truth I don't think this is a real problem. The Ubuntu
>> version is, speaking about your example, 9.10 while its codename is
>> Karmic Koala. It's a sort of Ubuntu tradition.
>> A typical user should only knows Ubuntu version (in fact from Ubuntu
>> home page you can see that you may download ubuntu 9.10 not Ubuntu
>> Karmic Koala).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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