Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-11 Thread habtool
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 20:57 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> 
> I'm still in favor of OpenSUSE's way.  And this was already discussed
> on
> ubuntu-devel.  It seemed that many agreed that either "press & hold"
> or
> "press twice" (a la OpenSUSE) were good ways to do it, with "press
> twice" having the discoverability bonus of "it didn't work so try
> again"
> and the code bonus of already existing.

This would work perfectly too!



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Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread habtool
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:10 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I don't particularly care for the deicision that was made, but it's
> been 
> made, so there's little point rehashing it now.
> 
> Scott K

Cool,




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Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread habtool
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:06 -0500, John Moser wrote:
> The correct solution is not dead-simple to implement, but it works:
> When you C-A-B, grab the whole screen and put up a confirmation dialog
> like gksudo does.  You can't switch desktops off it (CAB happens
> sometimes while swapping around virtual desktops and landing in a text
> editor, trying to backspace over stuff), and it's right in your face.
> It says "In 10 seconds I will kill X and reload it.  This will destroy
> all of your work.  Click the big red CANCEL button below now or hit
> SPACE!"

This is how I would say it should be done :)



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Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread habtool
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:42 -0600, Nergar -blank- wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:59, Clive Wagenaar
>  wrote:
> 
> (It is a pity this is from upstream where Arch, fedora etc
> will all also
> 'dumbed down' too)
> 
> 
> Is this true? If it is, then C-A-B should be left disabled.
> 
> -- 
> hacker != cracker

More chats about it here:

http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/01/since-we-all-know-x-is-nowhere-near.html



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Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread habtool
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:42 -0600, Nergar -blank- wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:59, Clive Wagenaar
>  wrote:
> 
> (It is a pity this is from upstream where Arch, fedora etc
> will all also
> 'dumbed down' too)
> 
> 
> Is this true? If it is, then C-A-B should be left disabled.
> 
> -- 
> hacker != cracker

It is already affecting fedora, came across this 'new feature' when
trying out F11 Alpha a few days back to test BTRFS..

Quote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes#X_Server

X Server 
The key combination Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill the X server has been
disabled by default. To get this behaviour back, add the the line 

Option "DontZap" "false"

to the ServerFlags section in xorg.conf.

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