Re: Add miredo to the default install.

2009-12-16 Thread Alain Kalker
Op maandag 14-12-2009 om 20:29 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Daniel
Chen:
 My (perhaps flawed) impression is that many desktop users would not care
 about IPv6.

[irony style=smile]My (perhaps flawed) impression is that many
consumers would not care about the environment.[/irony]

The trouble is: IPv6 is coming, whether anyone cares or not. IPv4 is
rapidly running out of addresses, so sooner or later we're going to have
to switch. Gently coaxing users to get acquainted with IPv6 is IMO a
much better idea than their ISPs dropping letters in their mailboxes one
day stating Either switch to IPv6 NOW or lose connectivity.

Just my €0,05

-Alain


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Re: Add miredo to the default install.

2009-12-16 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 17.12.2009 um 00:04 schrieb Alain Kalker:

 Gently coaxing users to get acquainted with IPv6 is IMO a
 much better idea than their ISPs dropping letters in their  
 mailboxes one
 day stating Either switch to IPv6 NOW or lose connectivity.

As no IPv4 address will be removed in the forseeable future, existing  
services won't stop to work. Just new ones will be hidden. Perhaps  
IPv4-to-IPv6 republishing sites will pop up.

Nevertheless, tunneling is a good idea these days. Any chance to set  
that up automatically? Without automatisms, the user base will remain  
neglibile. Who would care to work on his net connection if (s)he can  
seemingly reach any web site in the world already?

Another $o.o2


Markus

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Re: Add miredo to the default install.

2009-12-16 Thread Daniel Chen
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Alain Kalker m...@dds.nl wrote:
 The trouble is: IPv6 is coming, whether anyone cares or not. IPv4 is
 rapidly running out of addresses, so sooner or later we're going to have
 to switch. Gently coaxing users to get acquainted with IPv6 is IMO a
 much better idea than their ISPs dropping letters in their mailboxes one
 day stating Either switch to IPv6 NOW or lose connectivity.

An implication that the 10.04 LTS desktop support timeframe will see
an exhaustion of IPv4 addresses would be entirely premature.

-Dan

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Add miredo to the default install.

2009-12-14 Thread Harry Strongburg
Hi, in my opinion, the miredo package should be default on Ubuntu install.

Why? IPv6 is proclaimed to be some big future thing that should be acted upon. 
What better than to have the most known (in my opinion) GNU/Linux distribution 
be pushing forward with IPv6? It will deploy IPv6 globally a lot quicker, and 
will be especially useful for those people that their ISPs do not supply an 
IPv6 address to them.

Yes, I know they can manually get the package(s); why do that though? It's a 
small package, and it's useful, and will help the Internet's progress go 
quicker.


Is anyone else in favour of adding miredo to the default Ubuntu install? Why 
or why not?


Thanks.
- H


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Re: Add miredo to the default install.

2009-12-14 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 14.12.2009 um 21:24 schrieb Harry Strongburg:

 Hi, in my opinion, the miredo package should be default on Ubuntu  
 install.

 Why? IPv6 [...]

What is miredo? Ubuntu features IPv6 support already, so where's  
the use of this package?

Markus


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Re: Add miredo to the default install.

2009-12-14 Thread Daniel Chen
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Harry Strongburg lolwut...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is anyone else in favour of adding miredo to the default Ubuntu install? 
 Why or why not?

Despite using miredo for some time, I propose postponing inclusion of
this package in the default desktop seeds until after 10.04.  My
(perhaps flawed) impression is that many desktop users would not care
about IPv6.

-Dan

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