Re: Announcement: One Click Installer - What I need as a third party APT repository maintainer
Scott Ritchie napisał(a): Right now, approximately 70 thousand people use the Winehq APT repository to keep an updated Wine package. Every one of them had to follow the instructions here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb Simply put, these instructions suck. Google has GUI instructions for their repository, and those also suck: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html Both are as simple as we can make them, and they are inordinately frightening to new users. Pasting arcane shell commands as root into a terminal is not easy to use; neither is the 7 step graphical process Google gives. Exactly, that's the reason behind creating One Click Installer :) I, as an upstream ISV with my own third party repository, need it to be easy for the user to use my software. It should be so easy that I don't even need to give instructions - just a link to a single file that they can double click on. A user should be able to download a standard repository file, double click it, be informed about what packages and repository it's going to install, enter their password, and then be done. That's exactly what One Click Installer does. Thanks for explaining things from developer's point of view. Some people just don't get it. And without third party applications Linux is not going to be viable alternative for Windows as multipurpose desktop operating system. From what I can tell, this is going to be handled exactly by Third Party Apt, and I hope it can be finished in time for Gutsy. Will One Click Installer also do this, perhaps embedding the internals of Third Party Apt on Ubuntu systems? Yes, One Click Installer can do this and even more: it can embed installation information for other systems than Apt, and can provide user with nice which parts to install dialog, so that he can choose if he wants, for example, to install docs or plugins. More features for ease of use are planned, like possibility to add icon to the desktop (hard to do by beginners). Krzysztof Lichota signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Announcement: One Click Installer - What I need as a third party APT repository maintainer
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 19:01 +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: So, here is my shot at solving this problem - One Click Installer (http://code.google.com/p/one-click-installer/). The idea is similar to this implemented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThirdPartyApt, but with broader scope (supporting all distributions, not only Debian-based) and more features. On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 14:07 -0500, Jerome Haltom wrote: I agree with all of this. Except that I think what MS does is just fine., and I've love to provide that ability for Ubuntu, and Ubuntu alone. And so I will. Hence why I wrote wiki.ubuntu.com/ThirdPartyApt, and am just now getting motivated to finish it (after this conversation.) Right now, approximately 70 thousand people use the Winehq APT repository to keep an updated Wine package. Every one of them had to follow the instructions here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb Simply put, these instructions suck. Google has GUI instructions for their repository, and those also suck: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html Both are as simple as we can make them, and they are inordinately frightening to new users. Pasting arcane shell commands as root into a terminal is not easy to use; neither is the 7 step graphical process Google gives. This is not fixable by the apt:// protocol, as that is (properly) not designed to encompass adding a new repository but instead install software from existing repositories. I, as an upstream ISV with my own third party repository, need it to be easy for the user to use my software. It should be so easy that I don't even need to give instructions - just a link to a single file that they can double click on. A user should be able to download a standard repository file, double click it, be informed about what packages and repository it's going to install, enter their password, and then be done. From what I can tell, this is going to be handled exactly by Third Party Apt, and I hope it can be finished in time for Gutsy. Will One Click Installer also do this, perhaps embedding the internals of Third Party Apt on Ubuntu systems? Thanks, Scott Ritchie -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
