Re: Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-30 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 30.09.2009 um 06:09 schrieb Randy Appleton:

 Does anyone really have 1000 icons on their desktop?

Yes, this can happen.

Regarding boot times ... I'm not sure why this is interesting. The  
best goal would be to make it unneccessary to boot/reboot a machine  
at all.


My $0.02
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Re: Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-29 Thread David MENTRE
Hello,

2009/9/29 Martin Olsson mn...@minimum.se:
 http://www.phoronix.com/

 Their test suite is GPLv3 so you can reuse it!

A more precise link: http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/

Best regards,
david

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Re: Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-29 Thread Randy Appleton
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Martin Olsson mar...@minimum.se wrote:

 Randy Appleton wrote:
  What tests would be most useful?  It has been suggested to me...
 
  - Time to boot

 I think this one is important, but it's also
 very carefully analyzed by many others already.
 You have seen this right?
 http://www.bootchart.org/images/bootchart.png


Yep.  And it's exactly the right tool.  I take suggestions for any more
tools too.



  - Time to resume from sleep

 I think this one is the most interesting. In particular
 it seems that Apple has done a great job with this on
 their latest OS (in particular how fast they retrieve
 an DHCP ip address when resuming). Many Linux distros
 take a few seconds extra before you can actually use
 a web browser for example, after resume.

  - Time to login

 Same as boot? However, time from login prompt to fully
 loaded desktop is more interesting. The latest Ubuntu
 version has something called sreadahead though which
 should probably not be counted towards the total time
 because the sreadahead process runs with very low CPU
 and IO priorities. But something like from login prompt
 until all icons on the desktop is rendered or from login
 prompt until the Applications menu in GNOME is opened.


Yes, this is exactly what I mean.  Sorry I was unclear.




 It would also be interesting to see how these measurements
 different when certain input variables change. For example,
 when there is 1, 10, 100 or 1000 icons on the desktop,
 how does the corresponding time grow? linearly? quadratically?
 or even exponentially?


I don't know.  Does anyone really have 1000 icons on their desktop?  I could
do no icons and 20 icons.  That might be interesting.  Alternatively if
number of desktop icons has no real impact, then I report that.




  - Time to find a file using  the default search tool

 Depends a lot on harddrive speed, number of and size of
 the documents, how they are organized into folders etc.
 I think it would be hard to get useful data out of this one.


It would also depend on which tool each distribution uses.  I *think* Sues
uses beagle and Ubuntu and Fedora uses trackerd.  If so, I would expect
performance differences.




  - Time to load a document in OpenOffice

 This could turn out to be interesting if some input
 variable was modified during repeated benchmarks.
 For example, how does the load time grow when the
 number of pages the document has increases?

  - Time to view a folder with 1,000 documents in it.

 This one is another good one. Here I also would like
 to know how the time grows for 1, 10, 100, 1000, 1
 documents.


It occurs to me it would also matter if the folder has been previously
visited and had the icons made, or if it's a new folder (like a memorystick)
that needs to get it's icons made.


This could also be interesting, even though updating
 the distro is a much more rare task for the user (hopefully!)



Thanks for the suggestions.  I'd love to hear more suggestions from you (or
anyone else).

-Randy Appleton
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Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-28 Thread Randy Appleton
Hi!

I'm a computer science professor considering offering an undergraduate
research project.

Does anyone know which of the major distributions is fastest?  Has anyone
timed various operations in Ubuntu vs RedHat vs Suse?  I'm curious if it's
quicker to log in, find a file, open a document, etc. in Ubuntu, RedHat or
Suse?

Does anyone already have data on these questions?  Or, if we do the
benchmarking myself, is anyone interested in the results?  Finally, is there
some particular operation you'd like to see benchmarked?

-Much Thanks
-Randy Appleton
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Re: Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Olsson
http://www.phoronix.com/

Their test suite is GPLv3 so you can reuse it!


Martin

Randy Appleton wrote:
 I'm a computer science professor considering offering an undergraduate
 research project.
 
 Does anyone know which of the major distributions is fastest?  Has anyone
 timed various operations in Ubuntu vs RedHat vs Suse?  I'm curious if it's
 quicker to log in, find a file, open a document, etc. in Ubuntu, RedHat or
 Suse?
 
 Does anyone already have data on these questions?  Or, if we do the
 benchmarking myself, is anyone interested in the results?  Finally, is there
 some particular operation you'd like to see benchmarked?
 
 -Much Thanks
 -Randy Appleton
 
 


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Re: Benchmarking Ubuntu

2009-09-28 Thread Randy Appleton
Hi!

I'm a computer science professor considering offering an undergraduate
research project.

Does anyone know which of the major distributions is fastest?  Has anyone
timed various operations in Ubuntu vs RedHat vs Suse?  I'm curious if it's
quicker to log in, find a file, open a document, etc. in Ubuntu, RedHat or
Suse?

Does anyone already have data on these questions?  Or, if we do the
benchmarking myself, is anyone interested in the results?  Finally, is there
some particular operation you'd like to see benchmarked?

-Much Thanks
-Randy Appleton
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