Re: CVE-2017-1000364 kernel fix brake user-space programs

2017-06-23 Thread John Johansen
On 06/23/2017 12:52 PM, Nrbrtx wrote:
> Dear Ubuntu developers!
> 
> I can't understand how this happen, but your latest kernel upgrade broke many 
> user-space applications.
> 
> For me this process was started from Scilab. I can't use it with new kernels 
> (linux-image-3.13.0-121-generic on 14.04; linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic on 
> 16.04).
> So I reported bug to launchpad - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699892 .
> 
> Scilab users ask their developers for the fix, but the root of the problem is 
> the kernel (see http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15141, 
> http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15145, 
> http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15192,http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15194,
>  http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15195).
> 
> After some digging I discovered that other apps are affected too - see 
> comments on other bug page ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698919 ). The 
> list contain the following programs:
> * Oracle Java Plugin (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699772 )
> * Scilab at least in Trusty and Xenial (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699892 )
> * LPCxpresso (see https://community.nxp.com/thread/453939 )
> * RMongo (see https://stackoverflow.com/a/44699417 )
> * Ubiquity UniFi (see
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/UniFi-Controller-failed-after-dist-upgrade/td-p/1967779
> )
> * Eclipse (see
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/927746/eclipse-crashes-with-linux-kernel-4-4-0-81-generic
>  )
> 
> Debian 7, 8 and 9 are affected too (see 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865549 and 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865672 ).
> 
> It is not OK.
> Do you plan to revert this security patch?
> Problem may have wider spread, than detected now.
> 

The kernel team is aware of the issue, and will be releasing updated
kernels when they are available.

There are currently no plans to revert the kernel patch until the
replacement patches are ready due to the nature of the security
vulnerability. If the regression is preventing you from using the
applications you require then we currently recommend you reboot into
the previous kernel.

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Re: CVE-2017-1000364 kernel fix brake user-space programs

2017-06-23 Thread aconcernedfossdev

It is not OK.


Says who? You're speaking as if from a position of authority, but what 
authority do you have?


On 2017-06-23 19:52, Nrbrtx wrote:

Dear Ubuntu developers!

I can't understand how this happen, but your latest kernel upgrade
broke many user-space applications.

For me this process was started from Scilab. I can't use it with new
kernels (linux-image-3.13.0-121-generic on 14.04;
linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic on 16.04).
So I reported bug to launchpad -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699892 .

Scilab users ask their developers for the fix, but the root of the
problem is the kernel (see
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15141,
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15145,
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15192,http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15194,
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15195).

After some digging I discovered that other apps are affected too - see
comments on other bug page ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698919
). The list contain the following programs:
* Oracle Java Plugin (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699772 )
* Scilab at least in Trusty and Xenial (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699892 )
* LPCxpresso (see https://community.nxp.com/thread/453939 )
* RMongo (see https://stackoverflow.com/a/44699417 )
* Ubiquity UniFi (see
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/UniFi-Controller-failed-after-dist-upgrade/td-p/1967779
)
* Eclipse (see
https://askubuntu.com/questions/927746/eclipse-crashes-with-linux-kernel-4-4-0-81-generic
)

Debian 7, 8 and 9 are affected too (see
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865549 and
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865672 ).

It is not OK.
Do you plan to revert this security patch?
Problem may have wider spread, than detected now.

With best regards,
Norbert.


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Re: CVE-2017-1000364 kernel fix brake user-space programs

2017-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:52:40 +0300, Nrbrtx wrote:
>It is not OK.
>Do you plan to revert this security patch?

Hi,

I'm not an Ubuntu developer.

Did you read about CVE-2017-1000364, 
https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ubuntu+CVE-2017-1000364 ?

Do you really expect a fix for a _high severity_ vulnerability to be
removed?

Sometimes it happens that getting rid of vulnerabilities breaks
software, not only caused by kernel fixe, sometimes user
space software gets completely dropped, if continuing to provide it
would cause a serious risk.

Regards,
Ralf

PS:

FWIW for good reasons not only Debian based distros, such as the Ubuntu
flavours care much about this high severity vulnerability:

https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=arch+linux+CVE-2017-1000364

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ arch-audit --upgradable --quiet | grep linux
linux>=4.11.6-3

This isn't some minor annoyance bug.

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CVE-2017-1000364 kernel fix brake user-space programs

2017-06-23 Thread Nrbrtx
Dear Ubuntu developers!

I can't understand how this happen, but your latest kernel upgrade broke
many user-space applications.

For me this process was started from Scilab. I can't use it with new
kernels (linux-image-3.13.0-121-generic on 14.04; linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic
on 16.04).
So I reported bug to launchpad - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699892 .

Scilab users ask their developers for the fix, but the root of the problem
is the kernel (see http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15141,
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15145,
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15192,http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15194,
http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15195).

After some digging I discovered that other apps are affected too - see
comments on other bug page ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698919 ). The
list contain the following programs:
* Oracle Java Plugin (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699772 )
* Scilab at least in Trusty and Xenial (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1699892 )
* LPCxpresso (see https://community.nxp.com/thread/453939 )
* RMongo (see https://stackoverflow.com/a/44699417 )
* Ubiquity UniFi (see
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/UniFi-Controller-failed-after-dist-upgrade/td-p/1967779
)
* Eclipse (see
https://askubuntu.com/questions/927746/eclipse-crashes-with-linux-kernel-4-4-0-81-generic
)

Debian 7, 8 and 9 are affected too (see
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865549 and
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865672 ).

It is not OK.
Do you plan to revert this security patch?
Problem may have wider spread, than detected now.

With best regards,
Norbert.
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