Re: Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?

2010-02-02 Thread stephan
> Hi,
>
> It will need manually merging from Debian in order to get the new
> version in to Lucid. We have quite a lot of changes in the Ubuntu
> packaging compared to Debian, which all need to be preserved.
>
> Regards
> Chris

Thanks for your help Chris.  Do we need to make sure that ntfs-3g
2010.1.16 gets into squeeze before the LTSDebianImportFreeze?  Or will
a developer take care of this and the manual merging you describe once
the updated version appears in Debian, as long as it occurs before the
FeatureFreeze?  best,

stephan

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Re: Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?

2010-01-31 Thread Chris Coulson
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 05:48 -0500, stephan wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer Daniel!
> 
> It looks like Michael will help us all out and do a non-maintainer
> upgrade to get 2010.1.16 into testing:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560685#44
> 
> Does that mean it will automatically go into Lucid?  Or is there more
> work to be done since the package in Ubuntu ends with "-1ubuntu5"  ?
> Thanks,
> 
> stephan
Hi,

It will need manually merging from Debian in order to get the new
version in to Lucid. We have quite a lot of changes in the Ubuntu
packaging compared to Debian, which all need to be preserved.

Regards
Chris


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Re: Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?

2010-01-31 Thread stephan
Thanks for the pointer Daniel!

It looks like Michael will help us all out and do a non-maintainer
upgrade to get 2010.1.16 into testing:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560685#44

Does that mean it will automatically go into Lucid?  Or is there more
work to be done since the package in Ubuntu ends with "-1ubuntu5"  ?
Thanks,

stephan

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Daniel Chen  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Jonathon Fernyhough
>  wrote:
>> I'd second this. I've done some (admittedly unscientific) testing
>> running two VirtualBox VMs concurrently off the same NTFS disk*
>> (Karmic and Windows 7 on a Lucid host). With 2009.4.4 there was
>> significant lag; programs and menus took a noticeable time to appear.
>> After updating to 2010.1.16 both are purring along nicely, even when
>> the host has disk activity (such as aptitude installing a kernel
>> update) which previously made a single VM lag.
>>
>> Considering how trivial it was to install from source it can't be
>> difficult to include in Lucid? Or do we need to file a request
>> somewhere?
>
> There is already
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560685, so I
> recommend working as quickly and diligently as possible to get it into
> Debian testing.
>
> Best,
> -Dan
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Re: Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?

2010-01-20 Thread Daniel Chen
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Jonathon Fernyhough
 wrote:
> I'd second this. I've done some (admittedly unscientific) testing
> running two VirtualBox VMs concurrently off the same NTFS disk*
> (Karmic and Windows 7 on a Lucid host). With 2009.4.4 there was
> significant lag; programs and menus took a noticeable time to appear.
> After updating to 2010.1.16 both are purring along nicely, even when
> the host has disk activity (such as aptitude installing a kernel
> update) which previously made a single VM lag.
>
> Considering how trivial it was to install from source it can't be
> difficult to include in Lucid? Or do we need to file a request
> somewhere?

There is already
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560685, so I
recommend working as quickly and diligently as possible to get it into
Debian testing.

Best,
-Dan

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Re: Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?

2010-01-20 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2010/1/20 stephan :
> ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 appears to fix some important things.
> 2009.11.14 was already a tremendous improvement in speed and CPU usage.
>
> Why should Lucid stay with 2009.4.4, with its known performance
> problems on full or fragmented disks, and very high CPU usage?
>
> The forums are full of user complaints with regards to NTFS
> (especially on external drives).  In my case upgrading from 2009.4.4
> to 2009.11.14 took transfer of 1.5G to an external NTFS HD from one
> hour (2009.4.4) to less than a minute (2009.11.4).
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1362726
>
> Can we spare everyone the pain and go to 2010.1.16 in the next release?
>
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I'd second this. I've done some (admittedly unscientific) testing
running two VirtualBox VMs concurrently off the same NTFS disk*
(Karmic and Windows 7 on a Lucid host). With 2009.4.4 there was
significant lag; programs and menus took a noticeable time to appear.
After updating to 2010.1.16 both are purring along nicely, even when
the host has disk activity (such as aptitude installing a kernel
update) which previously made a single VM lag.

Considering how trivial it was to install from source it can't be
difficult to include in Lucid? Or do we need to file a request
somewhere?

Jonathon

* I have a couple of reasons for this. One, I can defrag the disk
images as to save space I have them set as dynamic allocation. Two, I
can access the machines in Windows when I have to.

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Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?

2010-01-19 Thread stephan
ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 appears to fix some important things.
2009.11.14 was already a tremendous improvement in speed and CPU usage.

Why should Lucid stay with 2009.4.4, with its known performance
problems on full or fragmented disks, and very high CPU usage?

The forums are full of user complaints with regards to NTFS
(especially on external drives).  In my case upgrading from 2009.4.4
to 2009.11.14 took transfer of 1.5G to an external NTFS HD from one
hour (2009.4.4) to less than a minute (2009.11.4).
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1362726

Can we spare everyone the pain and go to 2010.1.16 in the next release?

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