Re: Cloned virtual test machines

2008-07-07 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 07.07.2008 um 16:59 schrieb Felix Miata:

> On 2008/07/07 16:32 (GMT+0200) Markus Hitter apparently typed:
>
>> Then you can clone your OS to this spare partition, unmount it in
>> Ubuntu and launch your preferred virtual machine off it.
>
> I'm well past my 15 partition limit in most of my machines. How to  
> you do it?
> Only 2-3 distros per machine?

This one. Two Ubuntus plus Windows plus a Hackintosh ist enough for  
me. Sometimes I need to do some production work ;-)

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Re: Cloned virtual test machines

2008-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/07/07 11:20 (GMT-0500) Jason Crain apparently typed:

> On Mon, July 7, 2008 9:59 am, Felix Miata wrote:

>> I'm well past my 15 partition limit in most of my machines. How to you do
>> it? Only 2-3 distros per machine? 8 disks per machine? Something else?

> There is LVM.  It has a high learning curve, though.
> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/

1-LVM is not cross-platform, so complicates further the already complicated
management of serious multiboot systems.

2-LVM is incompatible with systems on which already >15 partitions/HD exist.

3-+1 on the high LVM learning curve, particularly when trying to figure out
how to adapt systems that already have >15/HD, and adapt all the
backup/restore deps that don't accommodate or incorporate LVM.

>From what you wrote "set aside a spare partition for the OS, and perhaps one
for the virtual machine's swap...use these two partitions (not the entire
disk) as "raw" partitions...", I just don't see much possibility to have more
than about 3-4 "systems" per disk, if that many, using LVM. Most of my
systems have more than 6, including at least 2 that can't use LVM.

>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US;
>>  rv:1.8.1.15) Gecko/20080622 SeaMonkey/1.1.10 (PmW)

> Really? Someone is still using OS2? :-)

You can too, as long as you don't mind paying for something worth having:
http://www.ecomstation.com/
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Re: Cloned virtual test machines

2008-07-07 Thread Jason Crain
On Mon, July 7, 2008 9:59 am, Felix Miata wrote:
> I'm well past my 15 partition limit in most of my machines. How to you do
> it? Only 2-3 distros per machine? 8 disks per machine? Something else?

There is LVM.  It has a high learning curve, though.
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/

> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US;
>  rv:1.8.1.15) Gecko/20080622 SeaMonkey/1.1.10 (PmW)

Really? Someone is still using OS2? :-)

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Re: Cloned virtual test machines

2008-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/07/07 16:32 (GMT+0200) Markus Hitter apparently typed:

> Am 07.07.2008 um 15:12 schrieb Scott Kitterman:

> On the host machine, set aside a spare  
> partition for the OS, and perhaps one for the virtual machine's swap.  
> Setup your virtual machine to use these two partitions (not the  
> entire disk) as "raw" partitions. The only slight trouble you'll  
> experience is the Master Boot Record / Grub which has to be set in  
> the virtual machine's raw disk description.

> Then you can clone your OS to this spare partition, unmount it in  
> Ubuntu and launch your preferred virtual machine off it.

I'm well past my 15 partition limit in most of my machines. How to you do it?
Only 2-3 distros per machine? 8 disks per machine? Something else?
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Cloned virtual test machines (was: Did we really release 8.04?)

2008-07-07 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 07.07.2008 um 15:12 schrieb Scott Kitterman:

> There was some discussion at UDS about developing the ability to  
> trivially
> clone a host machine into a VM so that users could easily test  
> their setups.

You can do this already. On the host machine, set aside a spare  
partition for the OS, and perhaps one for the virtual machine's swap.  
Setup your virtual machine to use these two partitions (not the  
entire disk) as "raw" partitions. The only slight trouble you'll  
experience is the Master Boot Record / Grub which has to be set in  
the virtual machine's raw disk description.

Then you can clone your OS to this spare partition, unmount it in  
Ubuntu and launch your preferred virtual machine off it. Exercised  
with a MS Windows partition and VirtualBox just a few weeks ago. If  
you want to have the details written down somewhere, please point me  
to the appropriate place.


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