Re: Don't install irrelevant character set fonts

2007-04-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 04:40:36PM +0200, Milan wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> If you give a look at your OpenOffice.org Writer fonts list, you will
> notice that it starts with 40 fonts whose names begin with "ae_". These
> fonts are designed for Arabic, Japanese, etc. character sets, and thus
> aren't really interesting for others charsets. They all look quite the
> same, and they double the size of the list, impeding the user who is
> searching for a nice font for him (there are much, but at the end of the
> list). There are other fonts in the list that are designed for specific
> languages ("ttf-*" packages).
> 
> Since Ubuntu has a nice localisation management, I suggest we add the
> fonts to the language-pack-* packages' "Recommends", and not to
> ubuntu-desktop's. We still need to be able to print Unicode characters:
> this can be done using FreeFonts and DejaVu. Then, most of fonts should
> be installed following what the user requests.

It is done the way it is for a reason, which is to be able to display
documents correctly regardless of the language the user chooses for their
desktop.  Remember that many users choose English for their desktop, but
work with documents in other languages.  These fonts are needed to display
many web pages correctly.

OpenOffice.org should instead be fixed to handle the list of fonts more
gracefully, so that the user sees the most relevant fonts first.

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Don't install irrelevant character set fonts

2007-04-12 Thread Milan
Hi !

If you give a look at your OpenOffice.org Writer fonts list, you will
notice that it starts with 40 fonts whose names begin with "ae_". These
fonts are designed for Arabic, Japanese, etc. character sets, and thus
aren't really interesting for others charsets. They all look quite the
same, and they double the size of the list, impeding the user who is
searching for a nice font for him (there are much, but at the end of the
list). There are other fonts in the list that are designed for specific
languages ("ttf-*" packages).

Since Ubuntu has a nice localisation management, I suggest we add the
fonts to the language-pack-* packages' "Recommends", and not to
ubuntu-desktop's. We still need to be able to print Unicode characters:
this can be done using FreeFonts and DejaVu. Then, most of fonts should
be installed following what the user requests.

Any occidental language support should install Latin fonts, and Chinese
chinese fonts... The only common fonts should be 2 or 3 large Unicode
support fonts. When a user wants to use a language, (s)he installs the
language support and gets the fonts. Maybe the Language support tool
could use a column more, "Font support only", to avoid installing all
translations.

This way, you can select easily nice and relevant fonts, and we may
install more oringinal fonts. Am I saying something stupid here ? ;-) Do
you think this is worth a spec ?

Milan


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