Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Nrbrtx]

Dear community!

According to this AskUbuntu question (https://askubuntu.com/q/977138/66509)
- the problem is critically actual.
We have 550 views of this question for 2 hours.

Please make official ESR package and put it alongside bleeding-edge version.
New shiny Firefox disables many LEGACY extensions (see
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/htmlview#
).
Users and developers need time for the switch.
They can't repair car while driving it.

With best regards,
Norbert.


On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Rico Tzschichholz 
wrote:

> I will give it a try to provide some ubuntu-flavoured firefox-esr builds
> in https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa which are
> meant to be co-installable with firefox and firefox-trunk.
>
> Rico
>
> Am 01.10.17 um 23:27 schrieb Nrbrtx:
> > Thanks to JonathonF - he built latest Firefox ESR 52.4.0. Interested
> > users may download it from PPA
> > https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
> >  .
> >
> > But this is not user-friendly solution.
> >
> > Debian already packaged Firefox ESR 52.4.0 (see
> > https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1;
> searchon=names=firefox-esr
> > ).
> >
> > Current status of addons porting is indicated here (
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ
> 7A0VBvqeKYVSww/htmlview#
> > ).
> > There are lot LEGACY (see
> > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-add-technology-modernizing
> > ) addons.
> > November with Firefox 57 (see
> > https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar ) will come very soon.
> >
> > I hope that Canonical will find resources for packaging Firefox ESR.
> > Enterprise users will be very pleasant.
> >
> > With best regards,
> > Norbert.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Marcos Alano  > > wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM, James Henstridge
> >  > > wrote:
> > > On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano <
> marcoshal...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> > >> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
> > >
> > > It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more
> difficult to
> > > maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
> > > maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
> > > simultaneously.
> > >
> > Understood. I think we need to do is ask some tough questions to find
> > a way to finally make available the firefox-esr.
> > Someone already asks a question I think it's very tough: how firefox
> > and firefox-esr can live together? Maybe just a different namespace
> > with /etc/alternatives symlinks. Actually could be a good idea
> because
> > allows more integration with Firefox Beta and Firefox Nightly
> provided
> > by Mozilla Team. Mozilla Nightly is in a different namespace, but
> Beta
> > updates the stable version which isn't a good way since I can't test
> > beta without lose stable.
> >
> >
> > > James.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > --
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> > R: http://five.sentenc.es
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[James Henstridge]

On 3 October 2017 at 23:55, Robie Basak  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 12:27:36AM +0300, Nrbrtx wrote:
>> Thanks to JonathonF - he built latest Firefox ESR 52.4.0. Interested users
>> may download it from PPA
>> https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
>>  .
>>
>> But this is not user-friendly solution.
>
> Given that others are already doing the work in their PPAs, I wonder if
> any of them would be able to get together and volunteer to maintain
> firefox-esr in Ubuntu's official archive, working alongside the existing
> maintenance of non-ESR Firefox done by the desktop team?
>
> As has already been mentioned by others this might involve some
> additional work to make the two play well in the archive together.
>
> Is there anyone who is prepared to drive this? Presumably there's no
> point in considering how (and if) it might work technically unless we
> have volunteers though.

Another option would be to try and package firefox-esr as a snap.
This would give access to multiple Ubuntu releases with a single
build, and give the ability to push out updates independent of the
Ubuntu release process.  The package would also show up automatically
in gnome-software without the need for the user to add a PPA.

You'd have access to the same Launchpad build infrastructure as you'd
have for a PPA build or one in the main Ubuntu archive, so once things
are set up it should be relatively easy to get builds for multiple
architectures pushed out.

James.

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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Jamie Bennett]

> On 4 Oct 2017, at 08:15, James Henstridge  
> wrote:
> 
> On 3 October 2017 at 23:55, Robie Basak  wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 12:27:36AM +0300, Nrbrtx wrote:
>>> Thanks to JonathonF - he built latest Firefox ESR 52.4.0. Interested users
>>> may download it from PPA
>>> https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
>>>  .
>>> 
>>> But this is not user-friendly solution.
>> 
>> Given that others are already doing the work in their PPAs, I wonder if
>> any of them would be able to get together and volunteer to maintain
>> firefox-esr in Ubuntu's official archive, working alongside the existing
>> maintenance of non-ESR Firefox done by the desktop team?
>> 
>> As has already been mentioned by others this might involve some
>> additional work to make the two play well in the archive together.
>> 
>> Is there anyone who is prepared to drive this? Presumably there's no
>> point in considering how (and if) it might work technically unless we
>> have volunteers though.
> 
> Another option would be to try and package firefox-esr as a snap.
> This would give access to multiple Ubuntu releases with a single
> build, and give the ability to push out updates independent of the
> Ubuntu release process.  The package would also show up automatically
> in gnome-software without the need for the user to add a PPA.
> 
> You'd have access to the same Launchpad build infrastructure as you'd
> have for a PPA build or one in the main Ubuntu archive, so once things
> are set up it should be relatively easy to get builds for multiple
> architectures pushed out.

+1 on this, a snap seems the best approach.

> James.
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Robie Basak]

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 12:27:36AM +0300, Nrbrtx wrote:
> Thanks to JonathonF - he built latest Firefox ESR 52.4.0. Interested users
> may download it from PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
>  .
> 
> But this is not user-friendly solution.

Given that others are already doing the work in their PPAs, I wonder if
any of them would be able to get together and volunteer to maintain
firefox-esr in Ubuntu's official archive, working alongside the existing
maintenance of non-ESR Firefox done by the desktop team?

As has already been mentioned by others this might involve some
additional work to make the two play well in the archive together.

Is there anyone who is prepared to drive this? Presumably there's no
point in considering how (and if) it might work technically unless we
have volunteers though.

Robie


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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Rico Tzschichholz]

I will give it a try to provide some ubuntu-flavoured firefox-esr builds
in https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa which are
meant to be co-installable with firefox and firefox-trunk.

Rico

Am 01.10.17 um 23:27 schrieb Nrbrtx:
> Thanks to JonathonF - he built latest Firefox ESR 52.4.0. Interested
> users may download it from PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
>  .
> 
> But this is not user-friendly solution.
> 
> Debian already packaged Firefox ESR 52.4.0 (see
> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr
> ).
> 
> Current status of addons porting is indicated here (
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/htmlview#
> ).
> There are lot LEGACY (see
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-add-technology-modernizing
> ) addons.
> November with Firefox 57 (see
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar ) will come very soon.
> 
> I hope that Canonical will find resources for packaging Firefox ESR.
> Enterprise users will be very pleasant.
> 
> With best regards,
> Norbert.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Marcos Alano  > wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM, James Henstridge
>  > wrote:
> > On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano  > wrote:
> >> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> >> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
> >
> > It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more difficult to
> > maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
> > maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
> > simultaneously.
> >
> Understood. I think we need to do is ask some tough questions to find
> a way to finally make available the firefox-esr.
> Someone already asks a question I think it's very tough: how firefox
> and firefox-esr can live together? Maybe just a different namespace
> with /etc/alternatives symlinks. Actually could be a good idea because
> allows more integration with Firefox Beta and Firefox Nightly provided
> by Mozilla Team. Mozilla Nightly is in a different namespace, but Beta
> updates the stable version which isn't a good way since I can't test
> beta without lose stable.
> 
> 
> > James.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Nrbrtx]

Thanks to JonathonF - he built latest Firefox ESR 52.4.0. Interested users
may download it from PPA
https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
 .

But this is not user-friendly solution.

Debian already packaged Firefox ESR 52.4.0 (see
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr
).

Current status of addons porting is indicated here (
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/htmlview#
).
There are lot LEGACY (see
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-add-technology-modernizing )
addons.
November with Firefox 57 (see https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
) will come very soon.

I hope that Canonical will find resources for packaging Firefox ESR.
Enterprise users will be very pleasant.

With best regards,
Norbert.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Marcos Alano 
wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM, James Henstridge
>  wrote:
> > On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano 
> wrote:
> >> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> >> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
> >
> > It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more difficult to
> > maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
> > maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
> > simultaneously.
> >
> Understood. I think we need to do is ask some tough questions to find
> a way to finally make available the firefox-esr.
> Someone already asks a question I think it's very tough: how firefox
> and firefox-esr can live together? Maybe just a different namespace
> with /etc/alternatives symlinks. Actually could be a good idea because
> allows more integration with Firefox Beta and Firefox Nightly provided
> by Mozilla Team. Mozilla Nightly is in a different namespace, but Beta
> updates the stable version which isn't a good way since I can't test
> beta without lose stable.
>
>
> > James.
>
>
>
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Marcos Alano]

What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
release? ESR someday was a latest release.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Olivier Tilloy
 wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>> Dear all!
>>
>> Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?
>
> This has been discussed this week in New York, and the desktop team
> doesn't have the resources to commit to packaging and maintaining
> Firefox ESR, unfortunately.
>
>
>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:
>>>
>>> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
>>> Debian in this commit. Can you please shine some light on why this change
>>> was made? Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:

 Dear Ubuntu developers!

 For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR is needed.
 It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions.

 This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-firefox-esr
 and
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04
 ).
 There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).

 For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
 We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
 user experience and without security vulnerabilities.

 Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
 https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
 for all supported versions.

 Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
 You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
 firefox-esr package too.


 With best regards,
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
> Dear all!
>
> Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?

This has been discussed this week in New York, and the desktop team
doesn't have the resources to commit to packaging and maintaining
Firefox ESR, unfortunately.


> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:
>>
>> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
>> Debian in this commit. Can you please shine some light on why this change
>> was made? Thanks!
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>>>
>>> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR is needed.
>>> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions.
>>>
>>> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-firefox-esr
>>> and
>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04
>>> ).
>>> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>>>
>>> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
>>> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
>>> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>>>
>>> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
>>> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
>>> for all supported versions.
>>>
>>> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
>>> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
>>> firefox-esr package too.
>>>
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> Norbert.
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[James Henstridge]

On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano  wrote:
> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> release? ESR someday was a latest release.

It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more difficult to
maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
simultaneously.

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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Marcos Alano]

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM, James Henstridge
 wrote:
> On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano  wrote:
>> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
>> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
>
> It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more difficult to
> maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
> maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
> simultaneously.
>
Understood. I think we need to do is ask some tough questions to find
a way to finally make available the firefox-esr.
Someone already asks a question I think it's very tough: how firefox
and firefox-esr can live together? Maybe just a different namespace
with /etc/alternatives symlinks. Actually could be a good idea because
allows more integration with Firefox Beta and Firefox Nightly provided
by Mozilla Team. Mozilla Nightly is in a different namespace, but Beta
updates the stable version which isn't a good way since I can't test
beta without lose stable.


> James.



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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Matthias Klose]

It is my understanding that having a Firefox ESR package in Ubuntu,

 - you need to have a distribution agreement with Mozilla.

 - you commit to keep the esr packages up to date, bot in development
   versions, and at least in LTS releases.

 - you use a separate namespace than the firefox packages currently
   found in Ubuntu.

If all preconditions above are met, then we probably can remove the blacklist
entry, but I assume that would be an always-merge package.

Matthias


On 29.09.2017 17:43, Marcos Alano wrote:
> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Olivier Tilloy
>  wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>>> Dear all!
>>>
>>> Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?
>>
>> This has been discussed this week in New York, and the desktop team
>> doesn't have the resources to commit to packaging and maintaining
>> Firefox ESR, unfortunately.
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:

 Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
 Debian in this commit. Can you please shine some light on why this change
 was made? Thanks!

 On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>
> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>
> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR is needed.
> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions.
>
> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-firefox-esr
> and
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04
> ).
> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>
> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>
> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
> for all supported versions.
>
> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
> firefox-esr package too.
>
>
> With best regards,
> Norbert.
>
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Nrbrtx]

Dear all!

Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?


With best regards,
Norbert.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:

> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
> Debian in this commit
> .
> Can you please shine some light on why this change was made? Thanks!
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>
>> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>>
>> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR
>>  is needed.
>> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions
>> 
>> .
>>
>> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-packag
>> e-to-install-firefox-esr and https://askubuntu.com/question
>> s/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04 ).
>> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>>
>> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
>> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
>> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>>
>> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see https://packages.debian.org/se
>> arch?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr) for all
>> supported versions.
>>
>> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
>> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
>> firefox-esr package too.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Norbert.
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Nrbrtx]

Dear all!

Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?


With best regards,
Norbert.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:

> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
> Debian in this commit
> .
> Can you please shine some light on why this change was made? Thanks!
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>
>> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>>
>> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR
>>  is needed.
>> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions
>> 
>> .
>>
>> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-packag
>> e-to-install-firefox-esr and https://askubuntu.com/question
>> s/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04 ).
>> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>>
>> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
>> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
>> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>>
>> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see https://packages.debian.org/se
>> arch?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr) for all
>> supported versions.
>>
>> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
>> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
>> firefox-esr package too.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Norbert.
>>
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Logan Rosen]

Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
Debian in this commit
.
Can you please shine some light on why this change was made? Thanks!

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:

> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>
> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR
>  is needed.
> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions
> .
>
> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-
> package-to-install-firefox-esr and https://askubuntu.com/question
> s/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04 ).
> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>
> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable user
> experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>
> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see https://packages.debian.org/
> search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr) for all
> supported versions.
>
> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
> firefox-esr package too.
>
>
> With best regards,
> Norbert.
>
> --
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> ubuntu-desk...@lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
>
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Firefox ESR package is really needed

[Nrbrtx]

Dear Ubuntu developers!

For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR
 is needed.
It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions
.

This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-
firefox-esr and https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-
install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04 ).
There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).

For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable user
experience and without security vulnerabilities.

Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
for all supported versions.

Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
firefox-esr package too.


With best regards,
Norbert.
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