Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-21 Thread kahping 
I'm not expecting gEdit to get updated in 15.10. Just responding to the
previous email.

But gEdit hasn't seen an update for a long time so it'd be nice to finally
see it get an update.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:43:18 +0100, Abel wrote:
> >I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files
> >(Nautilus) application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other
> >GNOME apps on 15.10 are in 3.16.2.
>
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:12:25 +0800, kahping wrote:
> >gEdit is 3.10.4 which is much older than that. Maybe update that
> >first?
>
> Hi,
>
> do Nautilus and Gedit not work? Are they broken ore are there security
> holes? If so, report it to the bug tracker. If not, why do you
> expect it to be upgraded for an Ubuntu release that already is released?
>
> Assumed all dependencies are available and upstream provides stable
> 3.16.2 releases of Nautilus and Gedit you easily could build the
> packages yourself, take a look at the Ubuntu Wikis and help pages. You
> can use the source packages of existing versions and replace the source
> code with the source code from upstream to build new packages. You do
> not need to be a power user or coder to do this, just follow a Wiki or
> help page's step by step guide. I quite sure there are such howtos.
>
> Ubuntu isn't a rolling release distro, upgrades won't happen just for
> version hunting purpose. The disadvantage of version hunting is the
> risk to break stability and new features could break the work-flow,
> so companies might need to train there employees to use newer versions.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
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Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 11:33:57 +0100, Abel wrote:
>It's a bad practice to have different versions of GNOME software in the
>same system, since GNOME is thought to have all the GNOME Framework
>using the same version.

I suspect that there's a clash of interests. Isn't UNITY based a lot on
GNOME? Among users of the GNOME mailer Evolution Ubuntu is known to
continuously cause serious issues. Perhaps the GNOME package maintainers
could explain the Ubuntu policy regarding GNOME packages.

A lot of packages are synced with Debian, so perhaps GNOME packages
needed by UNITY are not synced with Debian, but chosen to fit best to
UNITY. That's just a shot in the dark.

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Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-21 Thread Abel 
On 21/11/15 10:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:43:18 +0100, Abel wrote:
>
>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files
>> (Nautilus) application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other
>> GNOME apps on 15.10 are in 3.16.2.
>>
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:12:25 +0800, kahping wrote:
>
>> gEdit is 3.10.4 which is much older than that. Maybe update that
>> first?
>>
> Hi,
>
> do Nautilus and Gedit not work? Are they broken ore are there security
> holes? If so, report it to the bug tracker. If not, why do you
> expect it to be upgraded for an Ubuntu release that already is released?
>

It's a bad practice to have different versions of GNOME software in the
same system, since GNOME is thought to have all the GNOME Framework using
the same version. But ok, let's limit it about upgrading Nautilus/gEdit for
16.04.


Assumed all dependencies are available and upstream provides stable
> 3.16.2 releases of Nautilus and Gedit you easily could build the
> packages yourself, take a look at the Ubuntu Wikis and help pages. You
> can use the source packages of existing versions and replace the source
> code with the source code from upstream to build new packages. You do
> not need to be a power user or coder to do this, just follow a Wiki or
> help page's step by step guide. I quite sure there are such howtos.
>

Yes, but it's just for me and it doesn't have support from Ubuntu. I'm
asking to Ubuntu to upgrade them for all. If I compiled it by myself, I'd
rather compile last versions, i.e. 18.1.
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Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-21 Thread Abel 


On 21/11/15 10:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:43:18 +0100, Abel wrote:

I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files
(Nautilus) application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other
GNOME apps on 15.10 are in 3.16.2.

On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:12:25 +0800, kahping wrote:

gEdit is 3.10.4 which is much older than that. Maybe update that
first?

Hi,

do Nautilus and Gedit not work? Are they broken ore are there security
holes? If so, report it to the bug tracker. If not, why do you
expect it to be upgraded for an Ubuntu release that already is released?

It's a bad practice to have different versions of GNOME software in the
same system, since GNOME is thought to have all the GNOME Framework
using the same version. But ok, let's limit it about upgrading
Nautilus/gEdit for 16.04.


Assumed all dependencies are available and upstream provides stable
3.16.2 releases of Nautilus and Gedit you easily could build the
packages yourself, take a look at the Ubuntu Wikis and help pages. You
can use the source packages of existing versions and replace the source
code with the source code from upstream to build new packages. You do
not need to be a power user or coder to do this, just follow a Wiki or
help page's step by step guide. I quite sure there are such howtos.

Yes, but it's just for me and it doesn't have support from Ubuntu. I'm
asking to Ubuntu to upgrade them for all. If I compiled it by myself,
I'd rather compile last versions, i.e. 18.1.




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Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:43:18 +0100, Abel wrote:
>I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files
>(Nautilus) application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other
>GNOME apps on 15.10 are in 3.16.2.  

On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:12:25 +0800, kahping wrote:
>gEdit is 3.10.4 which is much older than that. Maybe update that
>first?  

Hi,

do Nautilus and Gedit not work? Are they broken ore are there security
holes? If so, report it to the bug tracker. If not, why do you
expect it to be upgraded for an Ubuntu release that already is released?

Assumed all dependencies are available and upstream provides stable
3.16.2 releases of Nautilus and Gedit you easily could build the
packages yourself, take a look at the Ubuntu Wikis and help pages. You
can use the source packages of existing versions and replace the source
code with the source code from upstream to build new packages. You do
not need to be a power user or coder to do this, just follow a Wiki or
help page's step by step guide. I quite sure there are such howtos.

Ubuntu isn't a rolling release distro, upgrades won't happen just for
version hunting purpose. The disadvantage of version hunting is the
risk to break stability and new features could break the work-flow,
so companies might need to train there employees to use newer versions.

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-21 Thread kahping 
Just chiming in...

gEdit is 3.10.4 which is much older than that. Maybe update that first?

Regards.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Abel  wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files (Nautilus)
> application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other GNOME apps on
> 15.10 are in 3.16.2.
>
> GNOME has improved significantly Files app in the lasts releases, so I
> would like to have a more updated version of it.
>
> Do you have any plan to update to GNOME Files to 3.16.2 as other GNOME
> Apps? at least for 16.04??
>
> Greetings
> *,*
>
> *Akronix.*
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GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

2015-11-20 Thread Abel 
Hello!

I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files (Nautilus)
application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other GNOME apps on
15.10 are in 3.16.2.

GNOME has improved significantly Files app in the lasts releases, so I
would like to have a more updated version of it.

Do you have any plan to update to GNOME Files to 3.16.2 as other GNOME
Apps? at least for 16.04??

Greetings
*,*

*Akronix.*
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