Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-04-01 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 31-03-2008 om 11:17 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Oliver
Grawert:
 Am Freitag, den 28.03.2008, 01:00 +0100 schrieb Jan Claeys:
  Op vrijdag 28-03-2008 om 09:07 uur [tijdzone +1100], schreef Luke
  Yelavich:
   and flash has libflashsupport, which provides pulseaudio output for
   flash.
  
  Does that work on 64-bit systems now?
  (It didn't work (easily) in gutsy.)
 libflashsupport was added to the lib32 package, so it should work with
 nspluginwrapper now.

I can say now that indeed it works.   :-)

My main problem now is the PulseAudio daemon crashing occasionally
(which os not related to libflashsupport).   :-/

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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-31 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Freitag, den 28.03.2008, 01:00 +0100 schrieb Jan Claeys:
 Op vrijdag 28-03-2008 om 09:07 uur [tijdzone +1100], schreef Luke
 Yelavich:
  and flash has libflashsupport, which provides pulseaudio output for
  flash.
 
 Does that work on 64-bit systems now?
 (It didn't work (easily) in gutsy.)
libflashsupport was added to the lib32 package, so it should work with
nspluginwrapper now.

ciao
oli


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-31 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
On Thursday 27 March 2008 19:28:28 Jerone Young wrote:
 Does skype work if you do a fresh reboot  that is the only sound app you 
 launch ?

All good points.
Even today, I was using Skype for a while with no prob. But after a while I 
started doing the daily updates, and ALSA just started to make that annoying 
noise and I had to stop it with sudo /etc/ini.d/alsa-utils stop. Of course 
Skype audio also spot working. After a reboot, all is well.


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-30 Thread Daniel Hahler
Conrad Knauer wrote:

 Today I noticed a short post:
 http://www.chinwong.com/index.php?/site/comments/sound_fix_for_heron/
 
 ---
 Sound fix for Heron
 
 After checking out several possible solutions to my sound problems in
 Hardy Heron, I finally found one that worked for me. Fortunately, it
 was pretty easy to carry out, too. Just went to Synaptic and installed
 Linux-386 and rebooted.  I hope this helps somebody out there and
 saves them hours of looking through the forums. Not really sure why
 the Linux-386 kernel was missing, but why look a gift horse in the
 mouth?
 ---
 
 Care to try installing the linux-386 package and booting into it from
 the GRUB menu to see what happens? :)

I think that he may have had installed the 386 kernel image already, but
was missing the kernel modules..

This could have happened e.g. when installing virtualbox-ose (because it
pulled in the 386 kernel image, but not the modules; see
https://launchpad.net/bugs/188579).

In that case, it would be better to remove the 386 kernel image and use
the generic one again.

Anyway, linux-generic is better on most machines than linux-386.

You can check which kernel image you're using with uname -r.


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-29 Thread Jerone Young
I'm trying the latest version of vlc in the hardy repo. It does have
the pulse audio support that your talking about .. i'm guessing it's
on, I don't see anything in the options. But sound still is now
working if a gsteamer app is started before vlc.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Murat Gunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 22:46 -0500, Jerone Young wrote:
   So this may be that vlc is not using pulse audio.

  PulseAudio support for VLC has just landed thanks to a FFe.

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/196417

  m.


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-28 Thread Jerone Young
So this may be that vlc is not using pulse audio. As flash seems to
work fine. But if I start a gstreamer app and then vlc, can't get any
sound out of vlc. If I start vlc before a gstreamer app then, the
gstreamer app can't do audio.

But flash seems to work fine.

The big question though is how is this going to effect games and apps
that do not have pulse audio support .. and do the logical thing and
alsa.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Milan Bouchet-Valat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jerone Young wrote:
   I think I am seeing a similar problem in Hardy. It appears to have
   something to do with gstream.
  
   1) If i use any app that uses gstreamer (rhythmbox) , then I can no
   longer hear sound out of flash or vlc.
  
   2) When using flash or vlc .. I can nolonger hear anything from
   gstreamer enabled apps (rhythmbox).
  
   I believe gstreamer is trying to get complete control of the sound
   deivce.. no idea yet. I figured I would do a better analysis of this
   over the weekend.
  
  GStreamer normally automatically detects which sound output is the best
  to use - it may be wrong here, and for example use alsa instead of
  PulseAudio, thus blocking the whole sound system. But this scenario
  would imply that PulseAudio is not started first...

  Anyway, you can run 'gstreamer-properties', which will allow you to
  select manually sound outputs. Just try every proposed sink, and see
  what happens with each case. You may also want to check whether
  PulseAudio is started at all! ;-)

  Hope this helps


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-27 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:00:56AM EST, Jan Claeys wrote:
 Op vrijdag 28-03-2008 om 09:07 uur [tijdzone +1100], schreef Luke
 Yelavich:
  and flash has libflashsupport, which provides pulseaudio output for
  flash.
 
 Does that work on 64-bit systems now?
 (It didn't work (easily) in gutsy.)

I don't know.
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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-25 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Using Intel here:
*-multimedia
 description: Multimedia audio controller
 product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio 
Controller
 vendor: Intel Corporation
 physical id: 1f.5
 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:1f.5
 version: 03
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=Intel ICH latency=0 module=snd_intel8x0


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-22 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi,

Am Saturday 22 März 2008 22:45:46 schrieb Scott (angrykeyboarder):
[..]

 Actually, I did just that night.  I went a step further and downloaded
 the daily live CD.

 I did a fresh install.

 Still no sound...

 I have SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS. It's a very popular card (although it's
 not being marketed anymore - it' s been replaced by the X-Fi - which ALSA
 says doesn't work in Linux, period - but that's another story). There are
 scads of them out there. So it's nothing unusual sound wise.

Well, I have one of these as well. Works fine with alsa for me out of the box 
(I have kde installed, and disabled arts, since this card supports 
multi-open, and I actually prefer to not have kde sounds... so of course I 
cannot tell about pulseaudio).

I'm not too sure if there are different revisions of this card though. My best 
guess would be to file a bug against pulseaudio [1], attaching the output of 

sudo lshw

Of course I didn't check for already reported bugs yet, worth a try as well.

Btw, my relevant lshw entry is:
[
 *-pci:1
  description: PCI bridge
  product: MCP55 PCI bridge
  vendor: nVidia Corporation
  physical id: e
  bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:0e.0
  version: a2
  width: 32 bits
  clock: 66MHz
  capabilities: pci ht subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
]
*-multimedia
 description: Multimedia audio controller
 product: SB Audigy
 vendor: Creative Labs
 physical id: 6
 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:02:06.0
 version: 04
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=EMU10K1_Audigy latency=32 maxlatency=20 
mingnt=2 module=snd_emu10k1
*-input
 description: Input device controller
 product: SB Audigy Game Port
 vendor: Creative Labs
 physical id: 6.1
 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:02:06.1
 version: 04
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=Emu10k1_gameport latency=32 
module=emu10k1_gp
*-firewire:0
 description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
 product: SB Audigy FireWire Port
 vendor: Creative Labs
 physical id: 6.2
 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:02:06.2
 version: 04
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=32 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 
module=ohci1394
*-firewire:1
 description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
 product: TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
 vendor: Texas Instruments
 physical id: b
 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:02:0b.0
 version: 00
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=32 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 
module=ohci1394

P.S.: There might be even a better script than lshw to find out about alsa and 
soundcards... I'm just not sure of this.

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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-21 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
On Thursday 20 March 2008 12:33:50 Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote:
 I've been unsuccessful in getting sound working, despite lots of tweaking.
 
 I've had the same problem with other recent distros using PulseAudio as 
 well.
 However, just like with the other guys I still can't get sound working 
 at all.
 
 I wonder if this is a kernel issue?

I've seen it too. I use skype a lot, and many times after updates, I'll have to 
reboot (or rather init 2 followed by init 5) to get sound working.
Not entirely sure its kernel, or at least not alone, since I've experience this 
even in days that dont update kernel.



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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-21 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Jonathan Jesse spake thusly:

 Yes I do, in fact w/ Gutsy I had to setup ALSA myself (using Kubuntu w/
 KDE4) having no problems with my Intel Sound Card. 

I'm talking about Hardy in this case.

 It was always a pain to remember to rebuild ALSA manually.

Rebuild from source? That shouldn't be necessary.

But now we have PulseAudio in the mix and every distro I've used lately 
(I'm an OS junkie) that utilizes PulseAudio has presented teh same 
problem. No sound.

However, Mandriva does include (bu default) separate audio controls for 
PulseAudio. As of a week ago, they were not part of the default install 
in Hardy (I don't know if that has changed since then). I had to install 
them manually.

However, they didn't help, either.


 
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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-21 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
(``-_-´´) -- Fernando spake thusly:

 On Thursday 20 March 2008 12:33:50 Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote:
 I've been unsuccessful in getting sound working, despite lots of
 tweaking.
 
 I've seen it too. I use skype a lot, and many times after updates, I'll
 have to reboot (or rather init 2 followed by init 5) to get sound
 working. Not entirely sure its kernel, or at least not alone, since I've
 experience this even in days that dont update kernel.

Skype doesn't work with PulseAudio, period. That's been documented. But 
are you running Hardy and otherwise getting sound?

I've been running Hardy for about 3 weeks now and I've *never* had sound 
of any kind.


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-21 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi,

Am Saturday 22 März 2008 04:31:27 schrieb Scott (angrykeyboarder):
 Stefan Potyra spake thusly:
  did you try sound with anything else but pulseaudio (e.g. running
  speaker-test to check alsa?)

 How do I run a speaker test?

well, just as I wrote (package is alsa-utils):

speaker-test

For testing more than one channel, you can also use 

speaker-test -c 2
(or -c 6 for a 5.1 setup)


  Also, please report bugs to launchpad, thanks!

 I've been hesitant to do so, because I don't know what to say other than
 I don't have sound.  And I've first want to check around and see if my
 problem was affecting others.

That's of course nice from you, thanks. However please also note, that it's 
easier/better documented, if you file a bug. Bug triagers can ask you initial 
questions there (e.g. the question I asked right in my previous mail), and 
later developer can take a look (vs. mail just might get unanswered on 
mailing list).

Cheers,
Stefan.


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-21 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Scott (angrykeyboarder)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I've been unsuccessful in getting sound working, despite lots of
   tweaking.
[...]
  are you running Hardy and otherwise getting sound?

  I've been running Hardy for about 3 weeks now and I've *never* had sound
  of any kind.

I have had sound, no problem, on my main computer; but do note that I
have only been running Hardy for about a week on it.

I vaguely recall having an audio problem with Hardy a while back with
an old notebook that I was testing until I did a clean install from a
newer source.

So... I would recommend downloading the beta Live CD
(http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta) and testing it to see if IT
has sound; if so, then just reinstall :)

CK

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Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-20 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
I've been unsuccessful in getting sound working, despite lots of tweaking.

I've had the same problem with other recent distros using PulseAudio as 
well.

I do note though, that the others include the PulseAudio controls by 
default where Hardy does not. They *are* in the archive though and I 
installed them, giving one access to the PulseAudio specific controls.

However, just like with the other guys I still can't get sound working 
at all.

In fact, right now about the only distro I *can* get sound working in is 
Knoppix 5.1 (but that's a year old).

I wonder if this is a kernel issue?

But I digress...


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Re: Got Hardy? With Sound?

2008-03-20 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi,

Am Thursday 20 März 2008 13:33:50 schrieb Scott (angrykeyboarder):
 I've been unsuccessful in getting sound working, despite lots of tweaking.

 I've had the same problem with other recent distros using PulseAudio as
 well.

[..]

 In fact, right now about the only distro I *can* get sound working in is
 Knoppix 5.1 (but that's a year old).

 I wonder if this is a kernel issue?

did you try sound with anything else but pulseaudio (e.g. running speaker-test 
to check alsa?)

Also, please report bugs to launchpad, thanks!

Cheers,
Stefan.


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