Re: Installer shouldn't be able to install grub on ntfs partitions
Please file a bug about it. 2009/10/19 Alan Searchwell : > > > I always use the advanced options in the installer to install grub to the > root partition of the distro I'm installing. Since I'm dual booting with > windows, I then use grub4dos to boot into linux. This gives me a quick and > easy method to restore the ability to boot linux after a Windows re-install > since all that is required to set up grub4dos is to copy a file (grldr) to > the Windows boot partition and edit Windows startup menus to launch that file. > > Today I did an installation that had a weird partition table. The entries > were: > > /dev/sda1 * 1 1275 10241406 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda2 1276 7476 49809532+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sda5 1276 6024 38146311 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda6 6025 7269 1431 83 Linux > /dev/sda7 7270 7476 1662696 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > Notice, no sda3 or sda4. When I chose the advanced options during install, I > was given the option of installing grub to sda, sda1 (Microsoft Windows XP > Professional), sda5 or sda6. Since I was expecting the Linux partition to be > sda4, I got confused and thought that sda6 must be the swap partition (dumb > me) so I installed grub to sda5. This has made my NTFS partition inaccessible > with no easy way to correct this mistake. > > The installer is smart enough to know that grub can't be installed to swap > space so, the swap partition is not offered as an option for installing grub. > From today's experience NTFS partitions are not suitable for installing grub > so they should not be offered as options either. IMHO Ubuntu's installer > does a fine job of saving users from themselves and this little extra check > would take that protection one step further. > > > _ > Keep your friends updated—even when you’re not signed in. > http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_5:092010 > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- ## Przemysław Kulczycki >><< Azrael Nightwalker ## # jabber: azrael[na]jabster.pl | tlen: azrael29a # ### www: http://reksio.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~azrael/ ### -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Installer shouldn't be able to install grub on ntfs partitions
On 2009/10/19 04:49 (GMT) Alan Searchwell composed: > I always use the advanced options in the installer to install grub to the > root partition of the distro I'm installing. When you're multi-booting (more than one OS per system, as opposed to dual booting, which is exactly two operating systems per system), it's nuts to do it any other way. Putting Grub on the MBR is license for Windows to drive you even more nuts than normal. > Since I'm dual booting with > windows, I then use grub4dos to boot into linux. This gives me a quick and > easy method to restore the ability to boot linux after a Windows > re-install since all that is required to set up grub4dos is to copy a file > (grldr) to the Windows boot partition and edit Windows startup menus to > launch that file. You don't need to bother with grub4dos. dd can make a copy of your root or boot partition's partition boot sector as a file. Copy that file to the Windows boot partition (C:\), put a stanza for it in boot.ini, and ntldr will offer it to you in its menu. http://fm.no-ip.com/install-doz-after.html > Today I did an installation that had a weird partition table. The entries > were: > /dev/sda1 * 11275102414067 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda21276747649809532+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sda512766024381463117 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda6602572691431 83 Linux > /dev/sda772707476 1662696 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disks typically vary in speed according to physical sector position on disk. Usually the lowest numbered sectors perform best. The tail of the disk is usually the worst place for swap. If Linux performance matters to you, don't put Windows at the front if you can help it either. C: can be the 2nd, 3rd or 4th primary if you take the trouble to make it so, usually easiest by doing 100% of your ultimate partitioning in advance of any OS installs. > Notice, no sda3 or sda4. All that means is there are only 2 primary partitions on the disk. XdX1-XdX4 are always reserved for primaries, no matter how many actually exist. The first logical is always #5, though the primary starting at the front of the disk isn't necessarily always #1. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Installer shouldn't be able to install grub on ntfs partitions
I always use the advanced options in the installer to install grub to the root partition of the distro I'm installing. Since I'm dual booting with windows, I then use grub4dos to boot into linux. This gives me a quick and easy method to restore the ability to boot linux after a Windows re-install since all that is required to set up grub4dos is to copy a file (grldr) to the Windows boot partition and edit Windows startup menus to launch that file. Today I did an installation that had a weird partition table. The entries were: /dev/sda1 * 1 1275 10241406 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 1276 7476 49809532+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 1276 6024 38146311 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda6 6025 7269 1431 83 Linux /dev/sda7 7270 7476 1662696 82 Linux swap / Solaris Notice, no sda3 or sda4. When I chose the advanced options during install, I was given the option of installing grub to sda, sda1 (Microsoft Windows XP Professional), sda5 or sda6. Since I was expecting the Linux partition to be sda4, I got confused and thought that sda6 must be the swap partition (dumb me) so I installed grub to sda5. This has made my NTFS partition inaccessible with no easy way to correct this mistake. The installer is smart enough to know that grub can't be installed to swap space so, the swap partition is not offered as an option for installing grub. From today's experience NTFS partitions are not suitable for installing grub so they should not be offered as options either. IMHO Ubuntu's installer does a fine job of saving users from themselves and this little extra check would take that protection one step further. _ Keep your friends updated—even when you’re not signed in. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_5:092010 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
