Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Hi Micah, As I said, there is many other software that some one could update safely not just Firefox 4. It's not a matter of one or two Apps, please read the Draft https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository ??? 13 ?? 2011 08:05, ??? Micah Gersten: Fixed top post On 04/12/2011 11:37 PM, Usama Akkad wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Saturday, October 30, 2010 02:35:21 pm Usama Akkad wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. We had some sessions on this at UDS and are working to make the path smoother for upstreams to get new versions of existing packages to users more quickly nad easily via adjustments to the Backports Project. So this is exactly backports. Scott K Hi again, Is there any progress on this subject? Where we can read more about your work on adjusting the Backports Project? I want to have firefox 4 on Lucid which I'm planing to keep till 2013 and there is many other software that some one could update safely Thanks, Decentralized Ubuntu Repository Draft https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository You can get the latest Firefox stable release here: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable We'll upgrade Lucid to whichever Firefox is current when its version's branch (3.6) is EOL. Micah -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Hi again, Is there any progress on this subject? Where we can read more about your work on adjusting the Backports Project? I want to have firefox 4 on Lucid which I'm planing to keep till 2013 and there is many other software that some one could update safely Thanks, Decentralized Ubuntu Repository Draft https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Saturday, October 30, 2010 02:35:21 pm Usama Akkad wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. We had some sessions on this at UDS and are working to make the path smoother for upstreams to get new versions of existing packages to users more quickly nad easily via adjustments to the Backports Project. So this is exactly backports. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
On Saturday, October 30, 2010 02:35:21 pm Usama Akkad wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. We had some sessions on this at UDS and are working to make the path smoother for upstreams to get new versions of existing packages to users more quickly nad easily via adjustments to the Backports Project. So this is exactly backports. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. I'm not talking about packages that might break the system, like gnome or Xorg. It's just some application that you might get from developer website to download and run instantly. في Thu، 28-10-2010 عند 08:34 +0300 ، كتب Bilal Akhtar: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene - -- Bilal Akhtar - Ubuntu Developer, yet still 14 years old. More information about him can be found on https://edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar IRC nick: bilalakhtar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMyQtOAAoJENsMxwzgYeH2hLsH/jzGxdfaiKOqXlAWVx62r23e /UjqZBsVIgrZgsipD2Pfw07oRn7M4vp+K8QA7aUdJCL6r5RdvpQszNxWMbQ1r92h xizEp48VYU3oOWOoxV/u21rWUXsxbXmiPxZFb3FOHjMU13z5y0ydVWxbbzQOpjtp nFjTLwkJTiiGYmayeCwdN8CakOZO/x/nfopDQea2GKxXK1eT3O3mX2QRffWgogKz DAg02jY+QT/vG1jRRSagd2MZABMQCw2UP0ZNXnwRR0aRUbGpXw9q+1HZ8TUKeDKI TAi60ZvLxjj166DSYTCiVzDOTI9BzVPuUzCxiNNKdcjI7DH+mbpgjRonq5YWTno= =mzR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Assalam alaikum Usama, The average user (i.e the group of users we're targeting) doesn't care about what version of software X he is running, as long as it works. For that reason, new versions of software will not land in the Ubuntu main repositories. Furthermore, these new versions can also not land in ubuntu-backports. If you want a (simple) desktop application to have an updated version in backports, you should file a bug for requesting it. You can find more information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports. Hope I've been useful :) Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Usama Akkad uahe...@gmail.com wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. I'm not talking about packages that might break the system, like gnome or Xorg. It's just some application that you might get from developer website to download and run instantly. في Thu، 28-10-2010 عند 08:34 +0300 ، كتب Bilal Akhtar: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene - -- Bilal Akhtar - Ubuntu Developer, yet still 14 years old. More information about him can be found on https://edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar IRC nick: bilalakhtar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMyQtOAAoJENsMxwzgYeH2hLsH/jzGxdfaiKOqXlAWVx62r23e /UjqZBsVIgrZgsipD2Pfw07oRn7M4vp+K8QA7aUdJCL6r5RdvpQszNxWMbQ1r92h xizEp48VYU3oOWOoxV/u21rWUXsxbXmiPxZFb3FOHjMU13z5y0ydVWxbbzQOpjtp nFjTLwkJTiiGYmayeCwdN8CakOZO/x/nfopDQea2GKxXK1eT3O3mX2QRffWgogKz DAg02jY+QT/vG1jRRSagd2MZABMQCw2UP0ZNXnwRR0aRUbGpXw9q+1HZ8TUKeDKI TAi60ZvLxjj166DSYTCiVzDOTI9BzVPuUzCxiNNKdcjI7DH+mbpgjRonq5YWTno= =mzR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
Actually FileZilla and Deluge are great candidates for backports and just need a bug filed against the appropriate backports project. There was some discussion at UDS about increasing the usage of backports for these types of applications so people can get the latest versions. Thanks, Micah On 10/30/2010 03:43 PM, Mohammed Amine IL Idrissi wrote: Assalam alaikum Usama, The average user (i.e the group of users we're targeting) doesn't care about what version of software X he is running, as long as it works. For that reason, new versions of software will not land in the Ubuntu main repositories. Furthermore, these new versions can also not land in ubuntu-backports. If you want a (simple) desktop application to have an updated version in backports, you should file a bug for requesting it. You can find more information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports. Hope I've been useful :) Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Usama Akkad uahe...@gmail.com wrote: Wa alaikum alsalam, Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them reach the users directly under your supervision as Ubuntu. You might say any one can create such a repo. Yes but it would hardly be in the Ubuntu way. I'm not talking about packages that might break the system, like gnome or Xorg. It's just some application that you might get from developer website to download and run instantly. في Thu، 28-10-2010 عند 08:34 +0300 ، كتب Bilal Akhtar: Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Mainstream Developers Repository
Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mainstream Developers Repository
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Assalam alaikum Usama, This is a good idea. But I think backports and GetDeb [1] are implementing something that is close to this? [1] http://www.getdeb.net/ Bilal Akhtar. On 10/28/2010 07:02 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: Hi, I would like to know your opinion on an Idea of having (Mainstream Developers Repository) please read the draft wiki page on this subject https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu%20Repository Sometimes user need to get the latest version of a software but he/she will have to add every Launchpad PPA manually. Regards, Usama Akkad https://launchpad.net/~damascene - -- Bilal Akhtar - Ubuntu Developer, yet still 14 years old. More information about him can be found on https://edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar IRC nick: bilalakhtar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMyQtOAAoJENsMxwzgYeH2hLsH/jzGxdfaiKOqXlAWVx62r23e /UjqZBsVIgrZgsipD2Pfw07oRn7M4vp+K8QA7aUdJCL6r5RdvpQszNxWMbQ1r92h xizEp48VYU3oOWOoxV/u21rWUXsxbXmiPxZFb3FOHjMU13z5y0ydVWxbbzQOpjtp nFjTLwkJTiiGYmayeCwdN8CakOZO/x/nfopDQea2GKxXK1eT3O3mX2QRffWgogKz DAg02jY+QT/vG1jRRSagd2MZABMQCw2UP0ZNXnwRR0aRUbGpXw9q+1HZ8TUKeDKI TAi60ZvLxjj166DSYTCiVzDOTI9BzVPuUzCxiNNKdcjI7DH+mbpgjRonq5YWTno= =mzR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
