Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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On May 8, 2007, at 9:06 PM, konghao wrote:
> ...
> 4.Since the human resource issue and the the limitation of 
> internet-access, it's complex for these guys to register every bug in 
> launchpad.
> I've check the process of reporting bugs in launchpad.net, there are 
> selections of "Distribution-Package" or "Project". I was confused that 
> which Package or Project I could report our bugs as a whole link 
> because it's really hard for us to input every bug one by one. If you 
> could give us some advices for that , it would be great appreciated:)
> ...

Reporting all bugs in the bugtracker as a single bug report probably 
wouldn't be any better than what you're doing now. :-) A bugtracker 
works poorly if there is more than one bug per bug report.

So, I suggest getting in touch with the Ubuntu BugSquad
, to organize a Bi-Annual Bug Blitz 
for them to ensure all the bugs you have found are reported. One way of 
doing this would be to copy and paste the defect report into a page (or 
pages) on the Ubuntu wiki. Then BugSquad members can edit the wiki page 
to annotate each problem with the equivalent bug link as they 
find/report it.

This is excellent work you're doing, and it would be a shame for it to 
be neglected because it isn't being converted to bug reports.

Cheers
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Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China (konghao)

[shirish]

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:06:40 +0800
From: "konghao"
Subject: Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China
To: "shirish agarwal"
Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
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Hi,
  Hi there,

Thanks very much for your replay.

To your point :

1.Thank you and I have sent another email to bug-squad mail list.

2.Actually it is a big mistake I made, because we have all versions of
report for all users include odt, pdf, doc etc, I accidently put the wrong
version on FTP . Now then I've put odt and pdf versions on FTP. Please check
them.

   FTP address: 210.76.123.18
   username: ostl
   password: ostl_ubuntu
   The subdirectory of newest testing report is "ubuntu 6.10", please check
them
Good that you did the updates.

3.Yes, there are many bugs are related to parent/upstream applications,we
took default complete installation of Ubuntu-6.10 CD as our test target,I
think if someone have interest about them, they can have a look. If you
didn't find the version record of these applications, they are the default
version in Ubuntu-6.10 CD.

OpenOffice is a special one, we have specialised and wholly reports(this OO
report are not included in Ubuntu testing report) to OpenOffice team and
community, not only the original version for openoffice.org, but also the
localized OpenOffice in China(more translation issues are included in this
version of report).
If you think it is not a good idea to take all of this bugs in one report,
we would consider your advice in our next reports. If you have time, could
you please give us a list of which part or applications the Ubuntu team
focus on in the default installation CD Ubuntu-7.04? If we have this list,
it's possible for us to separate some applications which are not necessary
to test.
 They do focus on almost all the applications you say but giving them like
this does nobody any good, as it is the no. of bug squasher community is
small compared to the number of bugs reported but as time goes, the no. of
people who would do bug-squashing would also hopefully grow. Now apart from
posting bugs upstream, if you think its some translation issue then it could
be a Rosetta issue.

https://launchpad.net/rosetta  .  Look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta
and the latest bugs reported as well as bugs touched shown below to have an
idea as to how the conversation happens.
https://help.launchpad.net/RosettaFAQ has a nice compilation to get your
feet wet in translations as well as a link to the mailing list where people
would be able to guide you more. You could also join #ubuntu-bugs or
#ubuntu-devel on freenode IRC & people would be able to guide you in much
better way.

Now your question about focus in default installation CD, they would be
focussed on each & every package simply for the reason its pretty meanly
contested with interested users asking for x or y package to be included in
the default install and there is only so much one can stuff in a 700 MB CD.

4.Since the human resource issue and the the limitation of internet-access,
it's complex for these guys to register every bug in launchpad.
I've check the process of reporting bugs in launchpad.net, there are
selections of "Distribution-Package" or "Project". I was confused that which
Package or Project I could report our bugs as a whole link because it's
really hard for us to input every bug one by one. If you could give us some
advices for that , it would be great appreciated:)

Ok Now for this one, when one reaches launchpad https://launchpad.net/ you
see the link called Ubuntu click on that, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu now
enter the name of your package as search pattern for e.g. openoffice.org &
you will see that there are 34 listings
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=openoffice.org Now while this
might seem overwhelming at the beginning, you will get a hang of it . In
fact there is a very good Howto given at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs so one does get overall
sense of how things work. You guys could think of making some chinese
equivalent of the same for your office & start using it. Of course it would
have been better to have an chinese equivalent but till we don't thats the
only way. You could however co-relate your efforts with people or persons
who are packaging and/or maintaining the chinese translations on the Rosetta
mailing list outlined above.  Signing off for now.
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Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China

[konghao]

Hi,

Thanks very much for your replay.

To your point :

1.Thank you and I have sent another email to bug-squad mail list.

2.Actually it is a big mistake I made, because we have all versions of report 
for all users include odt, pdf, doc etc, I accidently put the wrong version on 
FTP . Now then I've put odt and pdf versions on FTP. Please check them.

FTP address: 210.76.123.18
username: ostl
password: ostl_ubuntu
The subdirectory of newest testing report is "ubuntu 6.10", please check 
them

3.Yes, there are many bugs are related to parent/upstream applications,we took 
default complete installation of Ubuntu-6.10 CD as our test target,I think if 
someone have interest about them, they can have a look. If you didn't find the 
version record of these applications, they are the default version in 
Ubuntu-6.10 CD.

OpenOffice is a special one, we have specialised and wholly reports(this OO 
report are not included in Ubuntu testing report) to OpenOffice team and 
community, not only the original version for openoffice.org, but also the 
localized OpenOffice in China(more translation issues are included in this 
version of report).
If you think it is not a good idea to take all of this bugs in one report, we 
would consider your advice in our next reports. If you have time, could you 
please give us a list of which part or applications the Ubuntu team focus on in 
the default installation CD Ubuntu-7.04? If we have this list, it's possible 
for us to separate some applications which are not necessary to test.

4.Since the human resource issue and the the limitation of internet-access, 
it's complex for these guys to register every bug in launchpad.
I've check the process of reporting bugs in launchpad.net, there are selections 
of "Distribution-Package" or "Project". I was confused that which Package or 
Project I could report our bugs as a whole link because it's really hard for us 
to input every bug one by one. If you could give us some advices for that , it 
would be great appreciated:)


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from: shirish agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
time: 2007年4月29日 23:53
to: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China (Jianggw)




 Hi all,
 I have a feeling of deja vu about this one.  There are no. of points which 
u need to think about:-

1.  While we are very much thankful for the bug report but this is not the 
mailing list or the place where you wanna send this. A better place would have 
been https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad more 
specifically join the bug-squad team.

2.The format is a .doc format which makes things pretty bulky and inconsistent. 
I just cleaned up your 3 MB .doc file & saved it & got the same file in .odt 
format for 142 KB. Although it took me atleast 4 hrs. to do the cleaning up but 
one good action deserves another. I have put up the cleaned up file at 
http://rapidshare.com/files/28563156/Ubuntu_6.10_defect_report.odt.html.

3. One of the other things was that most of the bugs seem pertinent to 
Applications per-se which begs the question are these bugs in Ubuntu or the 
parent/upstream applications per se. For e.g. any of the bugs which are 
openoffice.org related, did you check them with let's say the same version in 
some other linux distro. or it could be a short-coming in the parent 
application per se. Also while you have put up the name of the OS there is no 
mention of the version of the application which is also very much needed. For 
e.g. openoffice has an excellent qa team which looks at all the bugs very 
seriously. http://qa.openoffice.org/ . There are even test-scripts there which 
would make your job whole lot easier if you had not been using them.  I say 
this because quite a few of these seem to be translation issues which should be 
handled by the applications themselves.

4. Ubuntu itself has a dedicated bug-reporting site at 
http://bugs.launchpad.net . The only thing is one has to register & keep track 
when the developers say something. You could also simultaneously file the bug 
upstream & give a link there which would make things easier for everybody.

  In the present format & way its unusable for anybody. In case if you have any 
more doubts, issues feel free to connect with me off-line or bug me either on 
jabber or freenode where I'm known as shirish. Take care, keep up the good work.
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Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China (Jianggw)

[Christof Krüger]

On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 21:23 +0530, shirish agarwal wrote:
> 2.The format is a .doc format which makes things pretty bulky and
> inconsistent. I just cleaned up your 3 MB .doc file & saved it & got
> the same file in .odt format for 142 KB. Although it took me atleast 4
> hrs. to do the cleaning up but one good action deserves another. I
> have put up the cleaned up file at
> http://rapidshare.com/files/28563156/Ubuntu_6.10_defect_report.odt.html. 

I've uploaded your modified odt-file together with a pdf version to:
http://ubuntu.localhost.li/

Bye,
  Christof


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Re: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China (Jianggw)

[shirish agarwal]

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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:33:28 +0800
From: "Jianggw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China
To: 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi, there

Thanks for reading this email.

April 29th, 2007. After the hard work of guys in our company
BSTQC(Beijing Software Testing & QA Center), we release our new all-sided
testing report for Ubuntu-6.10 which we finished several days before. In
our testing report, we've listed:

 19S2-bug(very serious),
 108  S3-bug(middle serious),
 106  S4-bug(normal),
 33S5-bug-for-suggestions(suggestions).

 Totally  266  bugs.

Even the new Ubuntu 7.04 has been released, this report would be very
valuable for all developers and users.

You can download it from BSTQC ftp server. If anyone has problems with
downloading the testing report, please contact me by sending email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If some one could provide downloading server outside of China and put
this testing report on your server, it would be great appreciated!

FTP address: 210.76.123.18

username: ostl

password: ostl_ubuntu

The subdirectory of newest testing report is "ubuntu 6.10", please
check them.

The all-side testing of newest Ubuntu 7.04 are ongoing, we will
release the testing report as soon as possible.

Thanks! & Best regards!

Hao Kong - BSTQC
--
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Beijing Software Testing & QA Center
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TEL:(+86)-010-82825511-726
Fax:(+86)-010-82826408
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 Hi all,

I have a feeling of deja vu about this one.  There are no. of points
which u need to think about:-

1.  While we are very much thankful for the bug report but this is not the
mailing list or the place where you wanna send this. A better place would
have been https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad more
specifically join the bug-squad team.

2.The format is a .doc format which makes things pretty bulky and
inconsistent. I just cleaned up your 3 MB .doc file & saved it & got the
same file in .odt format for 142 KB. Although it took me atleast 4 hrs. to
do the cleaning up but one good action deserves another. I have put up the
cleaned up file at
http://rapidshare.com/files/28563156/Ubuntu_6.10_defect_report.odt.html.

3. One of the other things was that most of the bugs seem pertinent to
Applications per-se which begs the question are these bugs in Ubuntu or the
parent/upstream applications per se. For e.g. any of the bugs which are
openoffice.org related, did you check them with let's say the same version
in some other linux distro. or it could be a short-coming in the parent
application per se. Also while you have put up the name of the OS there is
no mention of the version of the application which is also very much needed.
For e.g. openoffice has an excellent qa team which looks at all the bugs
very seriously. http://qa.openoffice.org/ . There are even test-scripts
there which would make your job whole lot easier if you had not been using
them.  I say this because quite a few of these seem to be translation issues
which should be handled by the applications themselves.

4. Ubuntu itself has a dedicated bug-reporting site at
http://bugs.launchpad.net . The only thing is one has to register & keep
track when the developers say something. You could also simultaneously file
the bug upstream & give a link there which would make things easier for
everybody.

 In the present format & way its unusable for anybody. In case if you have
any more doubts, issues feel free to connect with me off-line or bug me
either on jabber or freenode where I'm known as shirish. Take care, keep up
the good work.
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Newest Testing Report of Ubuntu 6.10 from BSTQC China

[Jianggw]

Hi, there

Thanks for reading this email.

April 29th, 2007. After the hard work of guys in our company BSTQC(Beijing 
Software Testing & QA Center), we release our new all-sided testing report for 
Ubuntu-6.10 which we finished several days before. In our testing report, we've 
listed:

 19S2-bug(very serious), 
 108  S3-bug(middle serious),
 106  S4-bug(normal),
 33S5-bug-for-suggestions(suggestions). 

 Totally  266  bugs.

Even the new Ubuntu 7.04 has been released, this report would be very 
valuable for all developers and users. 

You can download it from BSTQC ftp server. If anyone has problems with 
downloading the testing report, please contact me by sending email to  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  

If some one could provide downloading server outside of China and put this 
testing report on your server, it would be great appreciated! 

FTP address: 210.76.123.18 

username: ostl 

password: ostl_ubuntu 

The subdirectory of newest testing report is "ubuntu 6.10", please check 
them. 

The all-side testing of newest Ubuntu 7.04 are ongoing, we will release the 
testing report as soon as possible. 

Thanks! & Best regards!

Hao Kong - BSTQC
--
National Application Software Testing Labs
Beijing Software Testing & QA Center
Add:Building 3A,Zhongguancun Software Park,
Shangdi,Haidian District,Beijing,China 100094
TEL:(+86)-010-82825511-726
Fax:(+86)-010-82826408
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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