Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-17 Thread Evan Huus
Even if it isn't a coding error per say, it's still a design bug. I
have no idea what package to file it against though... unity?
indicator-appmenu? appmenu-gtk?

Can someone with a bit more knowledge of which package handles what
point us in the right direction?

Thanks,
Evan

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jason Todd  wrote:
> Yes, this is exactly what I'm experiencing. Maybe a bug?
>
>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:22:54 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back
>> cycling
>> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com; ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> Did a little more testing: even stranger. If I have a truly menuless
>> app open (like Update Manager), then F10 does focus the first
>> indicator as you mentioned, Jason. In that case I have right-to-left
>> wrapping, but not left-to-right wrapping.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Evan Huus  wrote:
>> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Jason Todd 
>> > wrote:
>> >> I'm basing this on use of the Beta 2 Live CD (no install). Maybe this
>> >> could
>> >> be explaining the difference?
>> >
>> > Possibly. I upgraded via beta 2 though, and I've only installed one
>> > round of updates since.
>> >
>> >>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:47:58 -0400
>> >>> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks
>> >>> front-to-back
>> >>> cycling
>> >>> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com
>> >>> CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jason Todd 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the
>> >>> > arrow
>> >>> > keys don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the
>> >>> > panel
>> >>> > indicators in Beta 2.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm actually able to do this just fine. One tap left and I wrap
>> >>> around. That's odd.
>> >>>
>> >>> > For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus
>> >>> > present)
>> >>> > and I
>> >>> > press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another difference with my machine: If I have no apps open, the global
>> >>> menu for nautilus shows up (since presumably the desktop is nautilus,
>> >>> and it has focus). Again, odd.
>> >>>
>> >>> One of our machines seems to be behaving oddly. I'm guessing it's mine
>> >>> (it's an upgrade from maverick from lucid), but either way it would be
>> >>> nice to know the intended behavior here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Evan
>> >>>
>> >>> > If I press the
>> >>> > left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu)
>> >>> > nothing
>> >>> > happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the
>> >>> > menus,
>> >>> > but I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much
>> >>> > tapping. I
>> >>> > would be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and
>> >>> > land
>> >>> > directly on the session-menu.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>> >>> >> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
>> >>> >> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
>> >>> >> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used
>> >>> >> for
>> >>> >> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I have found
>> >>> >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
>> >>> >> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> I'm just missing?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks,
>> >>> >> Evan
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
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RE: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-17 Thread Jason Todd

Yes, this is exactly what I'm experiencing. Maybe a bug?

> From: eapa...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:22:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back 
> cycling
> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com; ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> Did a little more testing: even stranger. If I have a truly menuless
> app open (like Update Manager), then F10 does focus the first
> indicator as you mentioned, Jason. In that case I have right-to-left
> wrapping, but not left-to-right wrapping.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Evan Huus  wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
> >> I'm basing this on use of the Beta 2 Live CD (no install). Maybe this could
> >> be explaining the difference?
> >
> > Possibly. I upgraded via beta 2 though, and I've only installed one
> > round of updates since.
> >
> >>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:47:58 -0400
> >>> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back
> >>> cycling
> >>> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com
> >>> CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
> >>> > The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the arrow
> >>> > keys don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the panel
> >>> > indicators in Beta 2.
> >>>
> >>> I'm actually able to do this just fine. One tap left and I wrap
> >>> around. That's odd.
> >>>
> >>> > For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus present)
> >>> > and I
> >>> > press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu.
> >>>
> >>> Another difference with my machine: If I have no apps open, the global
> >>> menu for nautilus shows up (since presumably the desktop is nautilus,
> >>> and it has focus). Again, odd.
> >>>
> >>> One of our machines seems to be behaving oddly. I'm guessing it's mine
> >>> (it's an upgrade from maverick from lucid), but either way it would be
> >>> nice to know the intended behavior here.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Evan
> >>>
> >>> > If I press the
> >>> > left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu)
> >>> > nothing
> >>> > happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the
> >>> > menus,
> >>> > but I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much
> >>> > tapping. I
> >>> > would be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and land
> >>> > directly on the session-menu.
> >>> >
> >>> >> From: eapa...@gmail.com
> >>> >> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
> >>> >> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
> >>> >> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so that
> >>> >> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used for
> >>> >> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have found
> >>> >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
> >>> >> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut that
> >>> >> I'm just missing?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks,
> >>> >> Evan
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
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> >>> >
> >>
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Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-16 Thread Oscar Gutierrez Parra
Hey guys!

Talking about this menu thing.. i don't like that the close buttons when
maximized still appear on the left side! I tried to change it with the gconf
tool! (metacity, etc) but didn't work! Do you know if it can be done?!

Oscar

2011/4/16 Evan Huus 

> Did a little more testing: even stranger. If I have a truly menuless
> app open (like Update Manager), then F10 does focus the first
> indicator as you mentioned, Jason. In that case I have right-to-left
> wrapping, but not left-to-right wrapping.
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Evan Huus  wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Jason Todd 
> wrote:
> >> I'm basing this on use of the Beta 2 Live CD (no install). Maybe this
> could
> >> be explaining the difference?
> >
> > Possibly. I upgraded via beta 2 though, and I've only installed one
> > round of updates since.
> >
> >>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:47:58 -0400
> >>> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks
> front-to-back
> >>> cycling
> >>> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com
> >>> CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jason Todd 
> wrote:
> >>> > The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the
> arrow
> >>> > keys don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the panel
> >>> > indicators in Beta 2.
> >>>
> >>> I'm actually able to do this just fine. One tap left and I wrap
> >>> around. That's odd.
> >>>
> >>> > For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus
> present)
> >>> > and I
> >>> > press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu.
> >>>
> >>> Another difference with my machine: If I have no apps open, the global
> >>> menu for nautilus shows up (since presumably the desktop is nautilus,
> >>> and it has focus). Again, odd.
> >>>
> >>> One of our machines seems to be behaving oddly. I'm guessing it's mine
> >>> (it's an upgrade from maverick from lucid), but either way it would be
> >>> nice to know the intended behavior here.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Evan
> >>>
> >>> > If I press the
> >>> > left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu)
> >>> > nothing
> >>> > happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the
> >>> > menus,
> >>> > but I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much
> >>> > tapping. I
> >>> > would be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and
> land
> >>> > directly on the session-menu.
> >>> >
> >>> >> From: eapa...@gmail.com
> >>> >> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
> >>> >> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
> >>> >> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so that
> >>> >> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used
> for
> >>> >> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have found
> >>> >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
> >>> >> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut that
> >>> >> I'm just missing?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks,
> >>> >> Evan
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
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> >>
> >
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Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-16 Thread Evan Huus
Did a little more testing: even stranger. If I have a truly menuless
app open (like Update Manager), then F10 does focus the first
indicator as you mentioned, Jason. In that case I have right-to-left
wrapping, but not left-to-right wrapping.

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Evan Huus  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
>> I'm basing this on use of the Beta 2 Live CD (no install). Maybe this could
>> be explaining the difference?
>
> Possibly. I upgraded via beta 2 though, and I've only installed one
> round of updates since.
>
>>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:47:58 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back
>>> cycling
>>> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com
>>> CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
>>> > The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the arrow
>>> > keys don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the panel
>>> > indicators in Beta 2.
>>>
>>> I'm actually able to do this just fine. One tap left and I wrap
>>> around. That's odd.
>>>
>>> > For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus present)
>>> > and I
>>> > press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu.
>>>
>>> Another difference with my machine: If I have no apps open, the global
>>> menu for nautilus shows up (since presumably the desktop is nautilus,
>>> and it has focus). Again, odd.
>>>
>>> One of our machines seems to be behaving oddly. I'm guessing it's mine
>>> (it's an upgrade from maverick from lucid), but either way it would be
>>> nice to know the intended behavior here.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> > If I press the
>>> > left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu)
>>> > nothing
>>> > happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the
>>> > menus,
>>> > but I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much
>>> > tapping. I
>>> > would be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and land
>>> > directly on the session-menu.
>>> >
>>> >> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>>> >> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
>>> >> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
>>> >> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> >>
>>> >> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so that
>>> >> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used for
>>> >> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have found
>>> >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
>>> >> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut that
>>> >> I'm just missing?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Evan
>>> >>
>>> >> --
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Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-16 Thread Evan Huus
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
> I'm basing this on use of the Beta 2 Live CD (no install). Maybe this could
> be explaining the difference?

Possibly. I upgraded via beta 2 though, and I've only installed one
round of updates since.

>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:47:58 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back
>> cycling
>> To: jtodd...@hotmail.com
>> CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
>> > The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the arrow
>> > keys don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the panel
>> > indicators in Beta 2.
>>
>> I'm actually able to do this just fine. One tap left and I wrap
>> around. That's odd.
>>
>> > For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus present)
>> > and I
>> > press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu.
>>
>> Another difference with my machine: If I have no apps open, the global
>> menu for nautilus shows up (since presumably the desktop is nautilus,
>> and it has focus). Again, odd.
>>
>> One of our machines seems to be behaving oddly. I'm guessing it's mine
>> (it's an upgrade from maverick from lucid), but either way it would be
>> nice to know the intended behavior here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Evan
>>
>> > If I press the
>> > left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu)
>> > nothing
>> > happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the
>> > menus,
>> > but I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much
>> > tapping. I
>> > would be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and land
>> > directly on the session-menu.
>> >
>> >> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>> >> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
>> >> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
>> >> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>> >>
>> >> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so that
>> >> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used for
>> >> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
>> >>
>> >> I have found
>> >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
>> >> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
>> >>
>> >> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut that
>> >> I'm just missing?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Evan
>> >>
>> >> --
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Re: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-16 Thread Evan Huus
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jason Todd  wrote:
> The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the arrow
> keys don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the panel
> indicators in Beta 2.

I'm actually able to do this just fine. One tap left and I wrap
around. That's odd.

> For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus present) and I
> press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu.

Another difference with my machine: If I have no apps open, the global
menu for nautilus shows up (since presumably the desktop is nautilus,
and it has focus). Again, odd.

One of our machines seems to be behaving oddly. I'm guessing it's mine
(it's an upgrade from maverick from lucid), but either way it would be
nice to know the intended behavior here.

Cheers,
Evan

> If I press the
> left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu) nothing
> happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the menus,
> but I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much tapping. I
> would be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and land
> directly on the session-menu.
>
>> From: eapa...@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
>> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
>> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so that
>> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used for
>> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
>>
>> I have found
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
>> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
>>
>> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut that
>> I'm just missing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Evan
>>
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RE: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity? -- lacks front-to-back cycling

2011-04-16 Thread Jason Todd

The other issue I'm facing when accessing Session-Menu is that the arrow keys 
don't cycle front-to-back/back-to-front when scrolling the panel indicators in 
Beta 2.
For example, if I have no apps open (and then no global menus present) and I 
press F10 the highlight appears on the first indicator menu. If I press the 
left arrow key (with the intention of cycling to the Session-Menu) nothing 
happens. If I press the right-arrow key then I can cycle through the menus, but 
I have to go through each indicator menu which involves much tapping. I would 
be so much faster to be able to tap the right-arrow key and land directly on 
the session-menu.

> From: eapa...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0400
> Subject: Keyboard access to me menu in Unity?
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> In past versions of Ubuntu, Super-S would select the me menu so that
> you could access it without a mouse. In unity, this combo is used for
> the expo plugin, and I cannot find the combo that replaced it.
> 
> I have found 
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
> which is fairly comprehensive, but doesn't list a combo for this.
> 
> Is this a bug I should file, or is there already a new shortcut that
> I'm just missing?
> 
> Thanks,
> Evan
> 
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