Re: gthumb

2021-02-11 Thread Thomas Ward

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Thomas

On 2/9/21 10:24 AM, Yvonne van Rooijen wrote:
Hello, i want to print 9 pictures on 1 page with gthumb. Everything 
goes fine, only printing stops everytime. So the page is ready for 
printing, all the necesary installations are ok, but printing does not 
work. Can anyone help me?? thanks


Y.R. van Rooijen



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Re: gthumb vs fspot

2009-12-02 Thread Mohammed Bassit
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:40 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:


> Now, to find out about the version of F-Spot I launched F-Spot for  
> the first time on it's own and *drumroll* there is a edit button.  
> However, when launching F-Spot via the context menu ("open with...")  
> in Nautilus (the file manager), editing buttons and the timeline are  
> still missing. The later is the usual way here, besides double- 
> clicking a photo.
> 
> Very confusing. Is this intended behaviour or should I file a bug?
> 


you might find this blog post useful
http://blog.reblochon.org/2009/11/unleash-your-f-spot-toolbox.html



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Re: gthumb vs fspot

2009-12-02 Thread Mohammed Bassit


On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:40 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:
> Am 02.12.2009 um 12:39 schrieb Onkar Shinde:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Markus Hitter  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is it just me or doesn't do the F-Spot shipped with Karmic editing at
> >> all? Timeline view? No such thing here.
> >
> > Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
> 
> F-Spot 0.6.1.5 on Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64
> 
> > On my jaunty installation I see
> > 'Edit' button in the top toolbar. When I click it the sidebar changes
> > to show buttons 'Crop', 'Red eye reduction', 'Desaturate', 'Sepia
> > tine', 'Straighten', 'Soft focus', 'Auto color', 'Adjust colors'.
> 
> OK, so it is me, or at least my installation.
> 
> Now, to find out about the version of F-Spot I launched F-Spot for  
> the first time on it's own and *drumroll* there is a edit button.  
> However, when launching F-Spot via the context menu ("open with...")  
> in Nautilus (the file manager), editing buttons and the timeline are  
> still missing. The later is the usual way here, besides double- 
> clicking a photo.

When you launch F-Spot via the context menu in Nautilus, you are
actually opening it in the viewer mode.

Until a week or two ago, the viewer mode didn't have edit buttons. But I
believe a F-Spot developer submitted recently a hack that adds edit
features to the viewer mode. But you still have to get it from whatever
version control system F-Spot devs are using (git most likely).



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Re: gthumb vs fspot

2009-12-02 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 02.12.2009 um 12:39 schrieb Onkar Shinde:

> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Markus Hitter  wrote:
>>
>> Is it just me or doesn't do the F-Spot shipped with Karmic editing at
>> all? Timeline view? No such thing here.
>
> Which version of Ubuntu are you using?

F-Spot 0.6.1.5 on Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64

> On my jaunty installation I see
> 'Edit' button in the top toolbar. When I click it the sidebar changes
> to show buttons 'Crop', 'Red eye reduction', 'Desaturate', 'Sepia
> tine', 'Straighten', 'Soft focus', 'Auto color', 'Adjust colors'.

OK, so it is me, or at least my installation.

Now, to find out about the version of F-Spot I launched F-Spot for  
the first time on it's own and *drumroll* there is a edit button.  
However, when launching F-Spot via the context menu ("open with...")  
in Nautilus (the file manager), editing buttons and the timeline are  
still missing. The later is the usual way here, besides double- 
clicking a photo.

Very confusing. Is this intended behaviour or should I file a bug?


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Re: gthumb vs fspot

2009-12-02 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Markus Hitter  wrote:
>
> Am 21.11.2009 um 13:02 schrieb Dave Morley:
>
>> Gthumb and fspot both have similar tool set for editing:
>> [...]
>> it's only 2 big advantages I see are uploading to online galleries
>> and timeline view.
>
> Is it just me or doesn't do the F-Spot shipped with Karmic editing at
> all? Timeline view? No such thing here.
>
> I'm aware the F-Spot web site mentions photo editing, but looking at
> the actually installed application, it's a very rudimentary photo
> viewer which doesn't allow for anything but looking at the pixels and
> at the metadata.

Which version of Ubuntu are you using? On my jaunty installation I see
'Edit' button in the top toolbar. When I click it the sidebar changes
to show buttons 'Crop', 'Red eye reduction', 'Desaturate', 'Sepia
tine', 'Straighten', 'Soft focus', 'Auto color', 'Adjust colors'.

I also see timeline just above a photo in 'Browse' mode and IIRC the
timeline has been there since Hardy.


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Re: gthumb vs fspot

2009-12-02 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 21.11.2009 um 13:02 schrieb Dave Morley:

> Gthumb and fspot both have similar tool set for editing:
> [...]
> it's only 2 big advantages I see are uploading to online galleries  
> and timeline view.

Is it just me or doesn't do the F-Spot shipped with Karmic editing at  
all? Timeline view? No such thing here.

I'm aware the F-Spot web site mentions photo editing, but looking at  
the actually installed application, it's a very rudimentary photo  
viewer which doesn't allow for anything but looking at the pixels and  
at the metadata.


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Re: gThumb

2008-01-17 Thread Bryan Quigley
That's not the right question, for patent issues the right question is:
Which is greater?
(Reward) Functionality provided by including software package by default.
(Risk) Possible costs (FUD and monetary) from patent issues.

I think the Reward < Risk for Mono, due to the majority of functionality
already being provided.  Furthermore, I don't think helping Microsoft
increase the use of a language they effectively control is a good thing.

I encourage you to read my specification (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default).
Ignore patent issues for now, as we are obviously not coming to a consensus
on that subject.

The gThumb removal surprised me as I have been watching (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReducingDuplication) and did not see any
discussion on which to remove.
Thank You,
Bryan Quigley

On Jan 17, 2008 3:05 AM, Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 18:28 -0500, David A. Harding wrote:
> > F-Spot is inefficent
> > and may violate Microsoft's patents.
> >
> > Ubuntu users deserve beautiful things and they don't deserve to have
> > them taken away because we ignored potential patent violations
>
> According to MS, the Linux kernel violates many of their patents. Should
> we remove the kernel, too?
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Re: gThumb

2008-01-17 Thread Mario Vukelic

On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 18:28 -0500, David A. Harding wrote:
> F-Spot is inefficent
> and may violate Microsoft's patents.
> 
> Ubuntu users deserve beautiful things and they don't deserve to have
> them taken away because we ignored potential patent violations

According to MS, the Linux kernel violates many of their patents. Should
we remove the kernel, too?


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Re: gThumb

2008-01-16 Thread George Farris
On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 17:17 -0500, Evan wrote:
> On Jan 16, 2008 4:36 PM, George Farris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> F-Spot in Gutsy with a default install will NOT display my
> photos, on my
> Acer Aspire Laptop however Gthumb will.
> 
> How do you mean? Does it not support the file format, or is this a bug
> that should be reported?
> 
> I second the DVD slideshow plugin. It's very useful. 

It must be a bug because it works on every other machine I have tried.
I even did a fresh install.  It must be something with X and the video
driver.  Yes it should be reported. 

Gthumb also has printing goodies that F-Spot doesn't handle.  For
example select 2 photos and print in Gthumb, the result, great layout
tools.  Do the same in F-Spot, crap.  Fix F-Spot printing first I'd say.






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Re: gThumb

2008-01-16 Thread David A. Harding
On Tue Jan 15 15:41:30 2008, Scott James Remnant wrote:
| On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 10:38 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
| | I outlined in my specification[1] how gThumb is more [memory]
| | efficent and takes up less [disk or CDROM] space.
| |
| | [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default
| 
| We feel the opposite, that f-spot has a better user experience.

I agree with Mr. Remnant: F-Spot is beautiful and simple like, for
example, Microsoft Vista. But I don't think a pretty face should
distract us from considering Mr. Quigley's points: F-Spot is inefficent
and may violate Microsoft's patents.

Ubuntu users deserve beautiful things and they don't deserve to have
them taken away because we ignored potential patent violations.

Thanks,

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Re: gThumb

2008-01-16 Thread Evan
On Jan 16, 2008 4:36 PM, George Farris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> F-Spot in Gutsy with a default install will NOT display my photos, on my
> Acer Aspire Laptop however Gthumb will.
>

How do you mean? Does it not support the file format, or is this a bug that
should be reported?

I second the DVD slideshow plugin. It's very useful.
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Re: gThumb

2008-01-16 Thread George Farris

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:19 +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote:
> 
> > On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default
> > > install (ubuntu desktop package).  Is their an application that has been
> > > added to help people organize home movies that I missed?
> > 
> > To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not
> > movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?).
> > 
> Not to mention that nautilus and eog already handle 95% of gthumb's
> functionality.  You can open a folder in Nautilus, browse the files
> within it, double-click to make them bigger and use Next/Previous
> buttons to move between them at full size.
> 
> Scott

F-Spot in Gutsy with a default install will NOT display my photos, on my
Acer Aspire Laptop however Gthumb will.  I would hope that all such
issues are resolved before choosing F-Spot over Gthumb.  

Also you might want to include the dvd slideshow plugin for F-Spot if
you ship it.  It's minimal yet but it does work.






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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Jean Levasseur
Perhaps, there is Digikam which is really neat, but it's KDE based, so I
would still stick with f-spot as default.  After getting a little love
from devs (that are already doing an awesome job) f-spot will rock!

Le mardi 15 janvier 2008 à 14:10 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan a écrit :
> Blue Marine is one program I've seen recommended for proper handling
> of EXIF data (that's the metadata I was trying to remember).  I was
> looking for an alternative to F-Spot because of the poor EXIF-handling
> at the time. 
> 
> On Jan 15, 2008 1:56 PM, Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote:
> > Kevin Fries wrote:
> > > This argument has raged before.  Has anyone thought of
> maybe a
> > > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard)
> but not based 
> > > on Mono.  Maybe something like Blue Marine?
> > >
> > > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/
> > >
> > > Just a thought.  They already package a DEB file and it is
> about 30M, 
> > > not sure how big the other packages are.
> > >
> > >
> > Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to
> stabilize this
> > development version...
> 
> 
> I personally don't have a problem with Mono or Java.  Both are
> excellent 
> technologies in my book.  Each has advantages and
> disadvantages like any
> technology.  But when I last defended Mono and F-Spot, I got
> jumped like
> a gang member in the wrong neighborhood.
> 
> Just trying to show options here.  Looking for solutions to
> defuse the 
> argument that erupted last time this was brought up, before
> the argument
> erupts again.  Hoping to show that while gThumb is a poor
> product on its
> best days (editorial, I know, but face it, its not good), but
> F-Spot and 
> Mono are not our only solutions.  There are other programs out
> there
> that are of some serious quality.
> 
> The BM page says that the product is not quite of release
> quality, but
> lets be real, its not of a professional release quality.  For
> the 
> average consumer, its perfectly stable enough.  I would not
> want to rely
> on this if I was a professional photographer until a few bugs
> were
> worked out.  But this product has no more bugs than the
> average FOSS
> product.
> 
> BTW, I have just briefly played with Blue Marine, and that is
> one hell
> of a program.  The type that really takes a run away from the
> second
> rate Windows based graphical tools, and right at the far
> superior Mac 
> based one.  It would definitely be a capabilities upgrade from
> anything
> in the repos now.  If nothing else, putting that in Multiverse
> would not
> be the dumbest idea I heard.
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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
Blue Marine is one program I've seen recommended for proper handling of EXIF
data (that's the metadata I was trying to remember).  I was looking for an
alternative to F-Spot because of the poor EXIF-handling at the time.

On Jan 15, 2008 1:56 PM, Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote:
> > Kevin Fries wrote:
> > > This argument has raged before.  Has anyone thought of maybe a
> > > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not
> based
> > > on Mono.  Maybe something like Blue Marine?
> > >
> > > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/
> > >
> > > Just a thought.  They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M,
> > > not sure how big the other packages are.
> > >
> > >
> > Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to stabilize this
> > development version...
>
> I personally don't have a problem with Mono or Java.  Both are excellent
> technologies in my book.  Each has advantages and disadvantages like any
> technology.  But when I last defended Mono and F-Spot, I got jumped like
> a gang member in the wrong neighborhood.
>
> Just trying to show options here.  Looking for solutions to defuse the
> argument that erupted last time this was brought up, before the argument
> erupts again.  Hoping to show that while gThumb is a poor product on its
> best days (editorial, I know, but face it, its not good), but F-Spot and
> Mono are not our only solutions.  There are other programs out there
> that are of some serious quality.
>
> The BM page says that the product is not quite of release quality, but
> lets be real, its not of a professional release quality.  For the
> average consumer, its perfectly stable enough.  I would not want to rely
> on this if I was a professional photographer until a few bugs were
> worked out.  But this product has no more bugs than the average FOSS
> product.
>
> BTW, I have just briefly played with Blue Marine, and that is one hell
> of a program.  The type that really takes a run away from the second
> rate Windows based graphical tools, and right at the far superior Mac
> based one.  It would definitely be a capabilities upgrade from anything
> in the repos now.  If nothing else, putting that in Multiverse would not
> be the dumbest idea I heard.
>
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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Kevin Fries

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote:
> Kevin Fries wrote:
> > This argument has raged before.  Has anyone thought of maybe a
> > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based
> > on Mono.  Maybe something like Blue Marine?
> >
> > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/
> >
> > Just a thought.  They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M,
> > not sure how big the other packages are.
> >
> >   
> Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to stabilize this
> development version...

I personally don't have a problem with Mono or Java.  Both are excellent
technologies in my book.  Each has advantages and disadvantages like any
technology.  But when I last defended Mono and F-Spot, I got jumped like
a gang member in the wrong neighborhood.

Just trying to show options here.  Looking for solutions to defuse the
argument that erupted last time this was brought up, before the argument
erupts again.  Hoping to show that while gThumb is a poor product on its
best days (editorial, I know, but face it, its not good), but F-Spot and
Mono are not our only solutions.  There are other programs out there
that are of some serious quality.

The BM page says that the product is not quite of release quality, but
lets be real, its not of a professional release quality.  For the
average consumer, its perfectly stable enough.  I would not want to rely
on this if I was a professional photographer until a few bugs were
worked out.  But this product has no more bugs than the average FOSS
product.

BTW, I have just briefly played with Blue Marine, and that is one hell
of a program.  The type that really takes a run away from the second
rate Windows based graphical tools, and right at the far superior Mac
based one.  It would definitely be a capabilities upgrade from anything
in the repos now.  If nothing else, putting that in Multiverse would not
be the dumbest idea I heard.

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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Milan
Kevin Fries wrote:
> This argument has raged before.  Has anyone thought of maybe a
> compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based
> on Mono.  Maybe something like Blue Marine?
>
> http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/
>
> Just a thought.  They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M,
> not sure how big the other packages are.
>
>   
Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to stabilize this
development version...

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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Kevin Fries
resending to group, cuz I accidentally replied to poster


On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 15:41 +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> We feel the opposite, that f-spot has a better user experience.

This argument has raged before.  Has anyone thought of maybe a
compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based
on Mono.  Maybe something like Blue Marine?

http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/

Just a thought.  They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M,
not sure how big the other packages are.


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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 10:38 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:

> I outlined in my specification
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default)  how gThumb has more
> functionality than F-Spot, is more efficient memory wise and takes up
> less space. 
> 
We feel the opposite, that f-spot has a better user experience.

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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Bryan Quigley
I outlined in my specification (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default)
how gThumb has more functionality than F-Spot, is more efficient memory wise
and takes up less space.
Thanks,
Bryan

On Jan 15, 2008 8:19 AM, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the
> default
> > > install (ubuntu desktop package).  Is their an application that has
> been
> > > added to help people organize home movies that I missed?
> >
> > To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not
> > movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?).
> >
> Not to mention that nautilus and eog already handle 95% of gthumb's
> functionality.  You can open a folder in Nautilus, browse the files
> within it, double-click to make them bigger and use Next/Previous
> buttons to move between them at full size.
>
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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote:

> On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default
> > install (ubuntu desktop package).  Is their an application that has been
> > added to help people organize home movies that I missed?
> 
> To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not
> movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?).
> 
Not to mention that nautilus and eog already handle 95% of gthumb's
functionality.  You can open a folder in Nautilus, browse the files
within it, double-click to make them bigger and use Next/Previous
buttons to move between them at full size.

Scott
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Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Wouter Stomp
On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default
> install (ubuntu desktop package).  Is their an application that has been
> added to help people organize home movies that I missed?

To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not
movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?).

Wouter.

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