Re: man types.h
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:05:47PM +0100, Lanoxx wrote: On 17/01/13 13:40, Oliver Grawert wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2013, 13:11 +0100 schrieb Lanoxx: it seems that for solaris there exists a man page for types.h [1] but I could not find such a man page on ubuntu. Could someone give me a hint, why it does not exist or is the man page name just different on ubuntu? the manpage for types.h is in the manpages-posix-dev package, note that we dont install devleoper documentation by default ... Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Maybe you can make manpages-dev recommend this package, so it is automatically installed if developer manpages are installed? The one in manpages-posix-dev is not really quite the same. What that documents is what POSIX guarantees of sys/types.h, not what the system provides; so it won't tell you about any system-specific extensions, some of which might be very important to you (e.g. large file support). I think manpages-posix(-dev) are useful packages and I'm glad they exist; but I also think they should only be installed when people explicitly ask for them, because it's quite easy to miss the fact that you're looking at a manual page which documents POSIX guarantees rather than your actual system. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: man types.h
On 18/01/13 14:57, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:05:47PM +0100, Lanoxx wrote: On 17/01/13 13:40, Oliver Grawert wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2013, 13:11 +0100 schrieb Lanoxx: it seems that for solaris there exists a man page for types.h [1] but I could not find such a man page on ubuntu. Could someone give me a hint, why it does not exist or is the man page name just different on ubuntu? the manpage for types.h is in the manpages-posix-dev package, note that we dont install devleoper documentation by default ... Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Maybe you can make manpages-dev recommend this package, so it is automatically installed if developer manpages are installed? The one in manpages-posix-dev is not really quite the same. What that documents is what POSIX guarantees of sys/types.h, not what the system provides; so it won't tell you about any system-specific extensions, some of which might be very important to you (e.g. large file support). I think manpages-posix(-dev) are useful packages and I'm glad they exist; but I also think they should only be installed when people explicitly ask for them, because it's quite easy to miss the fact that you're looking at a manual page which documents POSIX guarantees rather than your actual system. I see you point. Thank you for the explanation. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: man types.h
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 01:11:49PM +0100, Lanoxx wrote: it seems that for solaris there exists a man page for types.h [1] but I could not find such a man page on ubuntu. Could someone give me a hint, why it does not exist or is the man page name just different on ubuntu? We don't tend to have manual pages for header files, only for the functions they contain. This is arguably a bit awkward for sys/types.h which doesn't actually contain any functions. I don't think it's a huge problem, though, since the dominating reason why you might choose any given type from that header over any other one would be because of its use in a library function, and there should be manual pages for all the standard library functions which document the types they're intended to take. For documentation of the various system-specific conditional macros used in sys/types.h, I recommend feature_test_macros(7) (or ftm(7) for short). -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: man types.h
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2013, 13:11 +0100 schrieb Lanoxx: Hi, it seems that for solaris there exists a man page for types.h [1] but I could not find such a man page on ubuntu. Could someone give me a hint, why it does not exist or is the man page name just different on ubuntu? Regards Lanoxx [1] http://www.unix.com/man-page/opensolaris/3head/types.h/ the manpage for types.h is in the manpages-posix-dev package, note that we dont install devleoper documentation by default ... ciao oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: man types.h
On 17/01/13 13:40, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2013, 13:11 +0100 schrieb Lanoxx: Hi, it seems that for solaris there exists a man page for types.h [1] but I could not find such a man page on ubuntu. Could someone give me a hint, why it does not exist or is the man page name just different on ubuntu? Regards Lanoxx [1] http://www.unix.com/man-page/opensolaris/3head/types.h/ the manpage for types.h is in the manpages-posix-dev package, note that we dont install devleoper documentation by default ... Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Maybe you can make manpages-dev recommend this package, so it is automatically installed if developer manpages are installed? ciao oli -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
