Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Kjell Le
Try out dockbarx if you have space problems.
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DockbarX?content=101604 .


On 4 April 2010 15:00, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
 Hello,


 In order to save space in height, I customized my desktop by using only
 1 panel which merge the 2 defaults panels.

 However merging the 2 default panels consumes space in width (the
 windows list bar is tight).

 Therefore I think we should add a Trash shortcut into the shortcuts menu
 of the panel in order to allow the user to remove the Trash applet.

 Please give the user the choice of his/her desktop customization.


 Regards.

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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Jérôme Bouat
This dockbarx is more difficult to use for senior people.

I would like a Trash shortcut into the shortcuts menu in order to keep 
the design clear und easily understandable.


Kjell Le a écrit :
 Try out dockbarx if you have space problems.
 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DockbarX?content=101604 .
 
 
 On 4 April 2010 15:00, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
 Hello,


 In order to save space in height, I customized my desktop by using only
 1 panel which merge the 2 defaults panels.

 However merging the 2 default panels consumes space in width (the
 windows list bar is tight).

 Therefore I think we should add a Trash shortcut into the shortcuts menu
 of the panel in order to allow the user to remove the Trash applet.

 Please give the user the choice of his/her desktop customization.


 Regards.

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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:53:09 +0200
Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 This dockbarx is more difficult to use for senior people.
 
 I would like a Trash shortcut into the shortcuts menu in order to keep 
 the design clear und easily understandable.
 
 
 Kjell Le a écrit :
  Try out dockbarx if you have space problems.
  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DockbarX?content=101604 .
  
  
  On 4 April 2010 15:00, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
  Hello,
 
 
  In order to save space in height, I customized my desktop by using only
  1 panel which merge the 2 defaults panels.
 
  However merging the 2 default panels consumes space in width (the
  windows list bar is tight).
 
  Therefore I think we should add a Trash shortcut into the shortcuts menu
  of the panel in order to allow the user to remove the Trash applet.
 
  Please give the user the choice of his/her desktop customization.
 
 
  Regards.
 

Since I seem to be one of those senior people, I though I might chime
in here. The more movement of the panels, redesign of existing items,
changing of icons, etc, the harder it is for us. I do use two panels,
because it nicely separates things and it is something I am used to
having. Removing text, moving icons, other such things simply causes
more confusion. If you want to help senior people, quit suggesting all
these changes which leads to more confusion. I do not learn as easily
as I once did. Every new word, every new icon, every move from the
learned already, adds to my difficulty in using a computer. 

My eyes no longer see good. That means I use text to read the items.
Icons change, text should be the same word every time. I can usually
count on the text meaning what it did from one version to another, one
theme to another. Every icon change means I don't know what the item is
again.

You ask the developers to give the user the choice of his/her desktop
customization. You have that choice, as demonstrated by your own
design of your suggested changes. Make those changes for yourself. Let
me keep my desktop as I am used to it.

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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Jérôme Bouat
  You ask the developers to give the user the choice of his/her desktop
  customization. You have that choice, as demonstrated by your own

Currently not because I have to open my personnal folder, next I'm 
searching where to open the trash.

It isn't currently easy. I would like a Trash shortcut into the 
Shortcuts menu.

I think the Trash shortcut should be the minimum feature before adding 
a Downloads folder, etc.

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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Erik Andersen
(reply bottom posted)

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 07:23, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
   You ask the developers to give the user the choice of his/her desktop
   customization. You have that choice, as demonstrated by your own

 Currently not because I have to open my personnal folder, next I'm
 searching where to open the trash.

 It isn't currently easy. I would like a Trash shortcut into the
 Shortcuts menu.

 I think the Trash shortcut should be the minimum feature before adding
 a Downloads folder, etc.

 --

I'm quite sure what 'Shortcuts' menu you are talking about, but I'm
guessing you are talking about the Places menu?
Anyway, it works just fine for me to go to the trash in nautilus and
then click Bookmarks  Add Bookmark. Doing that adds a Trash shortcut
to the places menu.

So I would say you have a way to do what you want. As far as the
defaults, I personally think they are just fine the way they are and
are well thought out.


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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Kjell Le
Well the easiest way I guess is to buy a bigger monitor.

On 4 April 2010 20:41, Erik Andersen erik.b.ander...@gmail.com wrote:
 (reply bottom posted)

 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 07:23, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
   You ask the developers to give the user the choice of his/her desktop
   customization. You have that choice, as demonstrated by your own

 Currently not because I have to open my personnal folder, next I'm
 searching where to open the trash.

 It isn't currently easy. I would like a Trash shortcut into the
 Shortcuts menu.

 I think the Trash shortcut should be the minimum feature before adding
 a Downloads folder, etc.

 --

 I'm quite sure what 'Shortcuts' menu you are talking about, but I'm
 guessing you are talking about the Places menu?
 Anyway, it works just fine for me to go to the trash in nautilus and
 then click Bookmarks  Add Bookmark. Doing that adds a Trash shortcut
 to the places menu.

 So I would say you have a way to do what you want. As far as the
 defaults, I personally think they are just fine the way they are and
 are well thought out.


 --Erik Andersen

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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Jérôme Bouat
  Well the easiest way I guess is to buy a bigger monitor.

Not on a 12 inches laptop on which I DO NOT want to install the netbook 
flavor of Ubuntu.


Kjell Le a écrit :
 Well the easiest way I guess is to buy a bigger monitor.
 
 On 4 April 2010 20:41, Erik Andersen erik.b.ander...@gmail.com wrote:
 (reply bottom posted)

 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 07:23, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
   You ask the developers to give the user the choice of his/her desktop
   customization. You have that choice, as demonstrated by your own

 Currently not because I have to open my personnal folder, next I'm
 searching where to open the trash.

 It isn't currently easy. I would like a Trash shortcut into the
 Shortcuts menu.

 I think the Trash shortcut should be the minimum feature before adding
 a Downloads folder, etc.

 --
 I'm quite sure what 'Shortcuts' menu you are talking about, but I'm
 guessing you are talking about the Places menu?
 Anyway, it works just fine for me to go to the trash in nautilus and
 then click Bookmarks  Add Bookmark. Doing that adds a Trash shortcut
 to the places menu.

 So I would say you have a way to do what you want. As far as the
 defaults, I personally think they are just fine the way they are and
 are well thought out.


 --Erik Andersen

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Re: missing Trash shortcut into shortcuts menu of the top panel

2010-04-04 Thread Kjell Le
Too bad 12 inch laptop is too difficult to use for senior people.
Whether you are old or young if you cannot adapt and willing to learn
new stuff you might find the current setting unsuitable. The desktop
version of Ubuntu is optimized for bigger screens. Alternative is for
you to customize everything or use other windows manager. For a 12
inch laptop I suggest a tiling windows manager like Xmonad.

On 4 April 2010 22:28, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
 Well the easiest way I guess is to buy a bigger monitor.

 Not on a 12 inches laptop on which I DO NOT want to install the netbook
 flavor of Ubuntu.


 Kjell Le a écrit :

 Well the easiest way I guess is to buy a bigger monitor.

 On 4 April 2010 20:41, Erik Andersen erik.b.ander...@gmail.com wrote:

 (reply bottom posted)

 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 07:23, Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr
 wrote:

   You ask the developers to give the user the choice of his/her
 desktop
   customization. You have that choice, as demonstrated by your own

 Currently not because I have to open my personnal folder, next I'm
 searching where to open the trash.

 It isn't currently easy. I would like a Trash shortcut into the
 Shortcuts menu.

 I think the Trash shortcut should be the minimum feature before adding
 a Downloads folder, etc.

 --

 I'm quite sure what 'Shortcuts' menu you are talking about, but I'm
 guessing you are talking about the Places menu?
 Anyway, it works just fine for me to go to the trash in nautilus and
 then click Bookmarks  Add Bookmark. Doing that adds a Trash shortcut
 to the places menu.

 So I would say you have a way to do what you want. As far as the
 defaults, I personally think they are just fine the way they are and
 are well thought out.


 --Erik Andersen

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