Re: Target kernel for bionic?
On 31/10/17 10:37, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > I'd love it if there was a first-hand public statement from Greg or > someone similar that said their intent is for every new LTS kernel to > be supported for 6 years. Or that 4.14 will definitely be an Extended > LTS. > Just to finish this off (and only having come back to this), on his Google+ page [1] Greg KH has said that /only/ 4.4 is currently in line for "extended long-term support" from him, and 4.14 is only currently planned to get two years. 4.14 /could/ get six (or more) depending on how 4.4 goes and/or whether another kernel maintainer would pick it up. However, there's a lot of "ifs" in there. So, ignore me and carry on as you were. :) (though having an LTS release on an LTS kernel would make for a nice symmetry ;) J [1] https://plus.google.com/+gregkroahhartman/posts/ZUcSz3Sn1Hc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Target kernel for bionic?
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:32 AM, J Fernyhough wrote: > https://twitter.com/gregkh/status/913676688436924417 That particular tweet is not very precise. I'd love it if there was a first-hand public statement from Greg or someone similar that said their intent is for every new LTS kernel to be supported for 6 years. Or that 4.14 will definitely be an Extended LTS. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Target kernel for bionic?
On 30 October 2017 at 22:25, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:09 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: >> 4.14 will (I believe) be supported for six years (so >> should last the full life of bionic). > > Do you have any evidence for that claim? > https://twitter.com/gregkh/status/913676688436924417 https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/03/linux_kernel_long_term_support_extended_from_two_to_six_years/ https://itsfoss.com/linux-lts-kernel-six-years/ Granted, I haven't yet seen an explicit "Kernel 4.14 will be supported for six years", but pulling some quotes from the articles: "Greg Kroah-Hartman has given me permission to announce this here: He will extend LTS to six years, starting with kernel 4.4." "LTS is LTS. Greg Kroah-Hartman, the LTS maintainer, is committing to do [a six-year LTS]. Not because of Google or Android or Treble, but because everything is on LTS; it’s not on upstream." J -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Target kernel for bionic?
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:09 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: > 4.14 will (I believe) be supported for six years (so > should last the full life of bionic). Do you have any evidence for that claim? I would not assume that every LTS kernel will be an Extended LTS. See that 4.4 is Extended LTS (6 years) but 4.9 is only supported for 2 years. https://www.kernel.org/releases.html Thanks, Jeremy Bicha -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Target kernel for bionic?
There has been some discussion - aiming towards 4.15 but I don't believe anything is set in stone. Kernel list/insights post - https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/10/25/kernel-team-summary-october-25-2017/ Also Phoronix post with discussion around it - https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-18.04-LTS-Linux-4.15 Kind regards, Bryan On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:09 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: > Has there been any discussion or decision made on the target kernel for > bionic? > > If not, can I request that consideration is given to the 4.14 LTS > kernel, matching the use of 4.4 in xenial, rather than the non-LTS 3.13 > in trusty? > > While it will likely be several point-releases old/mature by the time > bionic is released, 4.14 will (I believe) be supported for six years (so > should last the full life of bionic). > > Keeping kernels relatively close to mainline helps in any number of > ways, not least with backporting new upstream developments (e.g. > WireGuard). > > > J > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Target kernel for bionic?
Has there been any discussion or decision made on the target kernel for bionic? If not, can I request that consideration is given to the 4.14 LTS kernel, matching the use of 4.4 in xenial, rather than the non-LTS 3.13 in trusty? While it will likely be several point-releases old/mature by the time bionic is released, 4.14 will (I believe) be supported for six years (so should last the full life of bionic). Keeping kernels relatively close to mainline helps in any number of ways, not least with backporting new upstream developments (e.g. WireGuard). J signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
