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1. Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10? (Dmitrijs Ledkovs)
2. Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10? (Waclaw Kusnierczyk)
3. Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10? (Oliver Grawert)
4. Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 77, Issue 7 (Adam Wolfe)
5. Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10? (Brett Cornwall)
6. RE: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?
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7. Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10? (Oliver Grawert)
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:21:31 +0100
From: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com
To: Brett Cornwall brettcornw...@lavabit.com
Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?
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On 9 April 2013 12:45, Brett Cornwall brettcornw...@lavabit.com wrote:
On 04/09/2013 06:31 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
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Aptitude is a fairly niche and highly technical package.
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I beg to differ:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html
Official Debian docs, section 8.1.3 - aptitude:
Note that aptitude is the preferred program for daily package management
from console.
Sure, that's why aptitude is seeded on ubuntu-server images, is in
main and supported.
Dismissing this as a 'niche' tool hardly counts.
Maybe I was not very explicit - all console applications are niche
on the Ubuntu (gui) Desktop. And vice versa, gui-desktop applications
are nice on the Ubuntu (console) Server.
We have aptitude seeded where console is the default interface.
On ubuntu-desktop the default interface is unity with preferred
package management using:
- dash application scope
- software updater
- software center
Depending on the use-case/goal one uses one or combination of above.
AFAIR, Debian was even trying to discourage usage of apt-get in the day in
favor of aptitude before Ubuntu decided to drop aptitude in 10.10.
On Ubuntu Desktop we want to discourage usage of command line =) as
there is no need for that for non-developers.
Regards,
Dmitrijs.
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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:37:33 +0200
From: Waclaw Kusnierczyk w...@idi.ntnu.no
To: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com
Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?
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Where does this conmviction come from?
On 04/09/2013 02:21 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
On Ubuntu Desktop we want to discourage usage of command line =) as
there is no need for that for non-developers.
Regards,
Dmitrijs.
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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:10:04 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com
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Subject: Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?
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hi,
On Di, 2013-04-09 at 13:21 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
We have aptitude seeded where console is the default interface.
On ubuntu-desktop the default interface is unity with preferred
package management using:
- dash application scope
- software updater
- software center
on a sidenote it would be duplication to add an additional package
commandline tool with additional metadata DBs next to apts. we are short
enough on diskspace on the images (especially on desktop) no need to
bloat that with duplicated tools ...
ciao
oli
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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 09:27:04 -0400
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