Re: kernel headers by default revisit...

2012-08-07 Thread Daniel Hollocher
> I run on the same platform? Do you have to use nVidia's own
> drivers to get the full res?

Yes

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Re: kernel headers by default revisit...

2012-08-07 Thread Dale Amon
This is what Linux thinks (incorrectly) about what the nVidia on the W520
can do:

xrandr
   Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 900, maximum 8192 x 8192
   LVDS1 connected 1600x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
345mm x 194mm
1600x900   60.0*+   50.0  
1440x900   59.9  
1360x768   59.8 60.0  
1152x864   60.0  
1024x768   60.0  
800x60060.3 56.2  
640x48059.9  
   VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)


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Re: kernel headers by default revisit...

2012-08-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 07:41:59PM +0200, Christoph Mathys wrote:
> I'm not an ubuntu developer, but here's how I see this:
> 
> On 07/16/2012 10:04 AM, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
> >IMHO, the installation and updating of linux-headers-generic,
> >linux-headers-3.2.0-26, linux-headers-3.2.0-26-generic is unneeded for
> >~98% of Ubuntu desktop users.

I wonder if this could be the answer to why I get such low
resolution out of my linux kernel on my W520, but get the full
possible resolution (2560x1600) in a Windows 7 Virtual Machine 
I run on the same platform? Do you have to use nVidia's own
drivers to get the full res?


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Re: kernel headers by default revisit...

2012-08-07 Thread Christoph Mathys

I'm not an ubuntu developer, but here's how I see this:

On 07/16/2012 10:04 AM, Daniel J Blueman wrote:

IMHO, the installation and updating of linux-headers-generic,
linux-headers-3.2.0-26, linux-headers-3.2.0-26-generic is unneeded for
~98% of Ubuntu desktop users.


So, 98% are not using nvidia or ati proprietary drivers? Damn, I must 
have a really bad hand when I comes to picking hardware...



Provided the dependencies are correct, it'll be pulled in by eg dkms,
libc-dev etc when expected.


IMHO, there is not one "correct" here. I'd absolutely hate if packages 
started hardcoding dependencies on linux-headers-generic. They may need 
some linux-headers, but why should that be the ones from generic kernel? 
I'd have to carry a generic headers package whenever I use dkms.


Christoph


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kernel headers by default revisit...

2012-07-16 Thread Daniel J Blueman
IMHO, the installation and updating of linux-headers-generic,
linux-headers-3.2.0-26, linux-headers-3.2.0-26-generic is unneeded for
~98% of Ubuntu desktop users.

Provided the dependencies are correct, it'll be pulled in by eg dkms,
libc-dev etc when expected.

So, what is the current justification for installing these packages per default?
-- 
Daniel J Blueman

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