lxde and nm-applet situation is worse: Jaunty python upgrade prevents pygtk apps from working
Well, i'm not yet using Jaunty (still on Interpid) - and i got an annoying situation having both LXDE and Gnome installed - a dependence named lxnm, not only it's not working, as well it removes by conflict nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), and if we insist reinstalling LXDE, we take the risk on being completelly offline (if we only have wireless access), like happened to me. I think it were a MOTU 'disaster' on marking lxnm package as conflicting with network-manager-gnome I commented it at the LXDE mailing list, and they didn't like it at all as well I hope this situation can be fixed soon - and helping people who want to use LXDE working with nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), or having the freedom of choice - even from a larger wireless managers diversity (which may help us to know which ones are the very better) -- Another thing: i were having difficulties on booting the Jaunty live-cd on a Macbook 2,0 - got completelly blank after usplash boot - please try asap also... thanks! Paulo - On 3/27/09, James Westby wrote: > This morning python2.6 version 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 made it in to Jaunty after > being held for a few days for the freeze. Unfortunately this package > contained an ABI break that meant some python extensions no longer > worked, most notably pygtk. In other words if you installed this version > you would see some apps fail to start with a message "undefined symbol: > PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8". Most importantly update-manager was affected, > making it harder to upgrade to a fixed version. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/349467/ > > Access to the bad packages was blocked, which is why you might have > seen 403 errors if you attempted to upgrade this morning, and fixed > packages have been uploaded as version 2.6.1-1ubuntu5.1. > > To find out if you have the bad version of the package installed you > can run > > dpkg -l python2.6 | cat > > If the version is not 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 then you are unaffected, you should > just be sure that you don't install that version if it is still > accessible on your mirror. > > If you do have the bad version installed then you can upgrade using > apt-get. > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade > > The fixed packages have only just been made available on the primary > mirror, so you may need to wait a few hours before they can become > available. > > Thanks, > > James > > > -- > ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list > ubuntu-devel-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: lxde and nm-applet situation is worse: Jaunty python upgrade prevents pygtk apps from working
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: > Paulo Silva wrote: > >> Well, i'm not yet using Jaunty (still on Interpid) - and i got an >> annoying situation having both LXDE and Gnome installed - a dependence >> named lxnm, not only it's not working, as well it removes by conflict >> nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), and if we insist >> reinstalling LXDE, we take the risk on being completelly offline (if >> we only have wireless access), like happened to me. >> >> I think it were a MOTU 'disaster' on marking lxnm package as >> conflicting with network-manager-gnome >> >> I commented it at the LXDE mailing list, and they didn't like it at all as >> well >> >> I hope this situation can be fixed soon - and helping people who want >> to use LXDE working with nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), or >> having the freedom of choice - even from a larger wireless managers >> diversity (which may help us to know which ones are the very better) > > I'm not really sure what your issue is here, but there are a few things that > come to mind. > > 1) there should be a meta-package for network connections, which things like > network-manager should provide > > 2) LXDE is the real problem here - if it wants to run on Ubuntu, it really > needs to work with network-manager, because that's our default network > manager (???). If it can, then it can provide a dependency on "lxnm | > network-manager" (surely not network-manager-gnome). I'd be really, > really, surprised if this can't be fixed merely by providing those > alternate dependencies on the package and no other change. > > 3) I'm not sure network-manager really needs to be so exclusive, but there > must be _some_ network control applications that can't be installed, > because surely only one application can be managing any given connection. > -- > derek > As to this being a "MOTU disaster," lxnm is synced directly from Debian with no Ubuntu changes. You might want to file a bug in Debian or contact the Debian maintainer. The same Debian maintainer seems to maintain the whole LXDE stack, and undoubtedly knows this package better than us. He very well might have a good reason for the Conflicts on network-manager. See: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lxnm.html - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio Ubuntu Contributing Developer -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: lxde and nm-applet situation is worse: Jaunty python upgrade prevents pygtk apps from working
Paulo Silva wrote: > Well, i'm not yet using Jaunty (still on Interpid) - and i got an > annoying situation having both LXDE and Gnome installed - a dependence > named lxnm, not only it's not working, as well it removes by conflict > nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), and if we insist > reinstalling LXDE, we take the risk on being completelly offline (if > we only have wireless access), like happened to me. > > I think it were a MOTU 'disaster' on marking lxnm package as > conflicting with network-manager-gnome > > I commented it at the LXDE mailing list, and they didn't like it at all as > well > > I hope this situation can be fixed soon - and helping people who want > to use LXDE working with nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), or > having the freedom of choice - even from a larger wireless managers > diversity (which may help us to know which ones are the very better) I'm not really sure what your issue is here, but there are a few things that come to mind. 1) there should be a meta-package for network connections, which things like network-manager should provide 2) LXDE is the real problem here - if it wants to run on Ubuntu, it really needs to work with network-manager, because that's our default network manager (???). If it can, then it can provide a dependency on "lxnm | network-manager" (surely not network-manager-gnome). I'd be really, really, surprised if this can't be fixed merely by providing those alternate dependencies on the package and no other change. 3) I'm not sure network-manager really needs to be so exclusive, but there must be _some_ network control applications that can't be installed, because surely only one application can be managing any given connection. -- derek -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
