sound from multiple apps
Hi Ubuntu Developers, I first wanted to thank you for your decent job on the distro. However, surely I would haven't fired off an email, unless there was a complaint (sorry). I'm just a little appalled at the state of audio support on Linux (I believe this issue is not Ubuntu only); I was trying to have a conversation on the google chat (from within the browser) and since the chat has audio alerts, mplayer refused to play audio (while the chat is open). Just a little example of broken audio support. I do not know the cause, nor the solution to the problem, I wonder how ubuntu is trying to become mainstream and have mysterious issues, such as this. Regards, -Gezim -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: sound from multiple apps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 05:13:19PM EST, Gezim Hoxha wrote: I first wanted to thank you for your decent job on the distro. However, surely I would haven't fired off an email, unless there was a complaint (sorry). Thanks for your kind words. Nothing is perfect, so anything from anyone that can possibly help make things better is worthwhile. I'm just a little appalled at the state of audio support on Linux (I believe this issue is not Ubuntu only); I was trying to have a conversation on the google chat (from within the browser) and since the chat has audio alerts, mplayer refused to play audio (while the chat is open). Just a little example of broken audio support. I do not know the cause, nor the solution to the problem, I wonder how ubuntu is trying to become mainstream and have mysterious issues, such as this. What does Google Chat use? Flash? Java? If you are using Ubuntu and GNOME, then its likely that whatever you are using is grabbing the sound device, and PulseAudio, the sound server for the Ubuntu desktop is unable to access the device, since whatever you are using in Firefox has exclusive use of the device. Its hard to say more without knowing what browser technology google chat uses. If you could tell me what it uses, then I will be able to more quickly help you work out a solution, or a workaround. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIUNL+jVefwtBjIM4RAlf5AJwLEAxc3xzXVy8LRB9ICpuUff1PQwCg1ue8 u1vpb0qbUOOEfbcpyHGxSjo= =8u90 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: sound from multiple apps
Le jeudi 12 juin 2008 à 17:40 +1000, Luke Yelavich a écrit : snip I'm just a little appalled at the state of audio support on Linux (I believe this issue is not Ubuntu only); I was trying to have a conversation on the google chat (from within the browser) and since the chat has audio alerts, mplayer refused to play audio (while the chat is open). Just a little example of broken audio support. I do not know the cause, nor the solution to the problem, I wonder how ubuntu is trying to become mainstream and have mysterious issues, such as this. What does Google Chat use? Flash? Java? It appears to use Java. So this may be a bug in a JRE. If you are using Ubuntu and GNOME, then its likely that whatever you are using is grabbing the sound device, and PulseAudio, the sound server for the Ubuntu desktop is unable to access the device, since whatever you are using in Firefox has exclusive use of the device. Its hard to say more without knowing what browser technology google chat uses. If you could tell me what it uses, then I will be able to more quickly help you work out a solution, or a workaround. Gezim, I guess you should open a bug against the package gij, and we'll be able to investigate more there. You've run into a very particular bug, and in Ubuntu the sound system is not so bad as you may think for desktop uses - actually it rocks, it's just that Java support may not be very well integrated to the rest of the system. Thanks for reporting anyway. Cheers -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: sound from multiple apps
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Google Chat use? Flash? Java? Boring old Javascript. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com -my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: sound from multiple apps
Oh, if it's a Flash issue, just install libflashsupport On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Chandru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had experienced the exact same problem. When Rhythmbox is playing a song, no sound output came from Firefox (Youtube or any Flash site). Also, AFAIK GMail uses Flash for audio alerts (not for other parts). I guess the problem is due to lack of integration of Flash Player with Pulseaudio (not an Ubuntu fault). The workaround is very simple. In System -Preferences - Sound choose ALSA for all options (except may be for Device under Default Mixer Tracks). This fixed it for me. Hope it fixes it for you too. Ho[e some developer can comment on whether the problem is due to non-integration of Flash player with Pulseaudio. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Google Chat use? Flash? Java? Boring old Javascript. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com -my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Chandra Sekar.S e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://tuxychandru.blogspot.com/ We choose the brand of our Mobile Phone, Motorbike, Car, Shirt, Shoe, Bread, etc. Then why not the brand of our OS too? Pre-loading and forcing Vista on new laptops kills consumers' choice. Fight for choice of OS just as there is for the Hard Disk capacity in new laptops. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com -my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: sound from multiple apps
Chandru wrote: I had experienced the exact same problem. When Rhythmbox is playing a song, no sound output came from Firefox (Youtube or any Flash site). Also, AFAIK GMail uses Flash for audio alerts (not for other parts). I guess the problem is due to lack of integration of Flash Player with Pulseaudio (not an Ubuntu fault). The workaround is very simple. In System -Preferences - Sound choose ALSA for all options (except may be for Device under Default Mixer Tracks). This fixed it for me. Hope it fixes it for you too. Ho[e some developer can comment on whether the problem is due to non-integration of Flash player with Pulseaudio. Installing Flash 10 should also fix this. Was a tip from Lennart @ UDS. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
