Re: Our biweekly meetings
Apologies for the delayed response. Note that we ended up not meeting on Wednesday because it was only Jelmer and myself. ;) Maybe the thing to do is to suspend the meetings until we have a clear agenda for them moving forward. Note that I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing! While there are some big ticket items that really need addressing (e.g. the quilt story), for me, UDD is a huge success. Despite the warts, I personally can't imagine working any other way. On Sep 06, 2011, at 03:12 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: The main thing I appreciated about the meetings was hearing what other people had done towards UDD. A common theme these days: let's celebrate your successes! One possible change in format would be to do a lightning round, and just go around the table with each person identifying one or two items they've run into, fixed, hacked on, or have a wild idea about. I would certainly love to hear about what you guys are excited about that might be coming soon. If there was some new feature, I'd be happy to run a dev branch for a bit to try things out. A great example is the branch status messages that bzr now gives. The original status lines needed a bit of tweaking, but now that it's landed, I am absolutely ecstatic about the feature. JAM, you nailed it! I think a part of this is also that UDD as a project doesn't really have releases - and no really visible changelog. So despite a lot of things getting done, we normally wouldn't hear about them. Agreed. The lightning round might do the trick there. Another thing that was occasionally useful was discussions about particular problems, like what to do about the project branch and packaging branch for a native package. The mailing list seems to work reasonably well for that sort of discussion too though, when it happens to come up. What do you think about this: after the lightening round, we can have one or two brief discussions on any particular design or implementation point for which the higher bandwidth would be useful? Mostly, I want to cut out the boring parts of the meeting, or anything we can do just as well over email. Let's make the meetings fun and interesting to participate in, and maybe we'd get more than just us chiming in. :) Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: Our biweekly meetings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/09/2011 05:50 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: Apologies for the delayed response. Note that we ended up not meeting on Wednesday because it was only Jelmer and myself. ;) Maybe the thing to do is to suspend the meetings until we have a clear agenda for them moving forward. Note that I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing! While there are some big ticket items that really need addressing (e.g. the quilt story), for me, UDD is a huge success. Despite the warts, I personally can't imagine working any other way. Yeah, I was sprinting and Martin was sick. We could do it next week if you want, though. On Sep 06, 2011, at 03:12 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: The main thing I appreciated about the meetings was hearing what other people had done towards UDD. A common theme these days: let's celebrate your successes! One possible change in format would be to do a lightning round, and just go around the table with each person identifying one or two items they've run into, fixed, hacked on, or have a wild idea about. I would certainly love to hear about what you guys are excited about that might be coming soon. If there was some new feature, I'd be happy to run a dev branch for a bit to try things out. A great example is the branch status messages that bzr now gives. The original status lines needed a bit of tweaking, but now that it's landed, I am absolutely ecstatic about the feature. JAM, you nailed it! I think a part of this is also that UDD as a project doesn't really have releases - and no really visible changelog. So despite a lot of things getting done, we normally wouldn't hear about them. Agreed. The lightning round might do the trick there. Another thing that was occasionally useful was discussions about particular problems, like what to do about the project branch and packaging branch for a native package. The mailing list seems to work reasonably well for that sort of discussion too though, when it happens to come up. What do you think about this: after the lightening round, we can have one or two brief discussions on any particular design or implementation point for which the higher bandwidth would be useful? Mostly, I want to cut out the boring parts of the meeting, or anything we can do just as well over email. Let's make the meetings fun and interesting to participate in, and maybe we'd get more than just us chiming in. :) Cheers, -Barry I think it can be a really good way to help *me* keep an ear out for what the current warts of the system are, and what would really help real-world use. Especially stuff like the informational notes. It can be easy to get stuck on some major thing (quilt merging), and not get papercuts fixed. John =:- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5qTKwACgkQJdeBCYSNAANvxQCeIwhapVGNro5au+0i9C52rWRW pWwAnRlf9NBY1qJkg0Z0wAXEkbDp22AF =rg/d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Our biweekly meetings
At our last meeting, we talked about starting up the UDD bi-weekly meetings again this week (Wednesday Sept 7 @ 1100 UTC). However, both Martin and I are pretty tired of the old format, so let's think about how we can restructure the meeting to be most effective for everyone. If we really don't think we *need* them anymore, that's fine too. What would *you* like to get out of these meetings? -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: Our biweekly meetings
Hi Barry, On 09/06/2011 02:57 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: At our last meeting, we talked about starting up the UDD bi-weekly meetings again this week (Wednesday Sept 7 @ 1100 UTC). However, both Martin and I are pretty tired of the old format, so let's think about how we can restructure the meeting to be most effective for everyone. If we really don't think we *need* them anymore, that's fine too. What would *you* like to get out of these meetings? The main thing I appreciated about the meetings was hearing what other people had done towards UDD. I think a part of this is also that UDD as a project doesn't really have releases - and no really visible changelog. So despite a lot of things getting done, we normally wouldn't hear about them. Another thing that was occasionally useful was discussions about particular problems, like what to do about the project branch and packaging branch for a native package. The mailing list seems to work reasonably well for that sort of discussion too though, when it happens to come up. Cheers, Jelmer -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
