Relais mail liste detaxe sur les pcs tatoués

2008-02-20 Par sujet Guillaume
Bonjour à toute la liste.
Pour ceux qui ont eu des pcs tatoués, Alain, sur la liste detaxe, 
transmets cette info :

[quote]
Par des chemins si sinueux qu'il est vain de tenter
de les expliquer, il est arrive a qlq oreilles qu'il
serait bon aujourd'hui de remonter a la DGCCRF tout probleme
que vous, vos proches, vos collegues, vos amis, auraient pu avoir en
achetant recemment (disons moins de 6 mois ou un an) sans le savoir des
ordinateurs dits "tatoues"
http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite/PC-tatouage-Palladium-9527/
http://logiciellibre.free.fr/tournedows.html
http://www.generation-nt.com/la-fin-des-logiciels-libres-actualite-6367.html
(oui, les liens sont anciens, mais les info sont fraiches !
et j'ai la flemme de faire une recherche fine !)

En particulier si :
-- le changement d'OS a ete particulierement difficile a faire,
meme s'il s'agit d'un passage de Vista a XP
-- si a l'achat il y avait des mentions aussi subtiles que seul
l'OS initial peut tourner sur cette machine
-- si a l'achat aucune information pertinente pouvait laisser
penser que la machine serait tatouee (genre seul un lien vraiment
pas clair sur un site constructeur pouvait laisser penser a des personnes
vigilantes qu'il pourrait y avoir un probleme ...)

A ce jour, les marques concernees seraient principalement:
Hp, Packard  Bell, Acer
mais peut-etre que d'autres constructeurs seraient atteind
de cette maladie grave ?!

Le courier, a adresser a :
DGCCRF
bureau E2
59 Bd Vincent Auriol
75703 Paris Cedex 13

peut etre tres simple:

[...]
Tel jour dans tel magasin j'ai achete telle machine
(marque et references). Ensuite voulant faire un
double boot ou basculer dans un autre systeme,
je me suis heurte a des problemes qui semblent bien etre
un tatouage de la machine. Mes recherches (ont ete vaines) ||
(n'ont pas ete vaines) ...

Je tenais a vous en informer car des informations
essentielles du bien m'ont ete dissimules a l'achat.

« Tout professionnel vendeur de biens ou prestataire de services doit,
avant la conclusion du contrat, mettre le consommateur en mesure de
connaître les caractéristiques essentielles du bien ou du service. »
(article L. 111-1 du code de la consommation).


formule de politesse
[...]
[/quote]

Guillaume

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Re: reseau en panne?

2008-02-20 Par sujet J Bond 0.07
J Bond 0.07 wrote:
> J Bond 0.07 wrote:
>> J Bond 0.07 wrote:
>>> Bonjour,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
>>  * Configuring network interfaces...  [ OK ]
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ping violette
>> PING violette (192.168.88.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
>>
>> --- violette ping statistics ---
>> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4999ms
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>>
>> Qu'est ce qu'il me manque encore?:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>>
> C'est quoi cette histoire de "192.168.0.133", au lieu de 192.168.88.x??


> eb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Joining mDNS multicast 
> group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.133.
> Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed: 
> No buffer space available
> Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Registering new address 
> record for 192.168.0.133 on eth2.IPv4.
> Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Withdrawing address record 
> for 169.254.5.88 on eth2.
> Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Joining mDNS multicast 
> group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.133.
> Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed: 
> No buffer space available
> Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7428]: client: RTNETLINK 
> answers: No such process
> Feb 20 15:20:39 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: No longer a 
> routable address configured, restarting probe process.
> Feb 20 15:20:39 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Withdrawing address record 
> for 192.168.0.133 on eth2.
> Feb 20 15:20:39 localhost dhclient: No working leases in persistent 
> database - sleeping.
> 


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Re: reseau en panne?

2008-02-20 Par sujet J Bond 0.07
J Bond 0.07 wrote:
> J Bond 0.07 wrote:
>> Bonjour,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
>  * Configuring network interfaces...  [ OK ]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ping violette
> PING violette (192.168.88.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 
> --- violette ping statistics ---
> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4999ms
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> Qu'est ce qu'il me manque encore?:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ifconfig
> eth0  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:8F:7A:C6:DD
>   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Packets reçus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
>   Octets reçus:0 (0.0 b) Octets transmis:0 (0.0 b)
>   Interruption:16 Adresse de base:0xc000
> 
> eth1  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:E7:07:F9:F4
>   adr inet6: fe80::218:e7ff:fe07:f9f4/64 Scope:Lien
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Packets reçus:106 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
>   Octets reçus:34560 (33.7 KB) Octets transmis:16215 (15.8 KB)
>   Interruption:19 Adresse de base:0x4800
> 
> eth2  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A7:0C:8B:55
>   adr inet6: fe80::210:a7ff:fe0c:8b55/64 Scope:Lien
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Packets reçus:8713 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:7893 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
>   Octets reçus:4132491 (3.9 MB) Octets transmis:778541 (760.2 KB)
>   Interruption:20 Adresse de base:0xec00
> 
> eth0:avah Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:8F:7A:C6:DD
>   inet adr:169.254.10.9  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Masque:255.255.0.0
>   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Interruption:16 Adresse de base:0xc000
> 
> eth1:avah Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:E7:07:F9:F4
>   inet adr:169.254.10.164  Bcast:169.254.255.255 Masque:255.255.0.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Interruption:19 Adresse de base:0x4800
> 
> eth2:avah Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A7:0C:8B:55
>   inet adr:169.254.5.88  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Masque:255.255.0.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Interruption:20 Adresse de base:0xec00
> 
> loLien encap:Boucle locale
>   inet adr:127.0.0.1  Masque:255.0.0.0
>   adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   Packets reçus:482 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:482 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 lg file transmission:0
>   Octets reçus:43439 (42.4 KB) Octets transmis:43439 (42.4 KB)
> 
> ppp0  Lien encap:Protocole Point-à-Point
>   inet adr:81.20.215.110  P-t-P:195.146.243.11 
> Masque:255.255.255.255
>   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1492  Metric:1
>   Packets reçus:7612 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:6512 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 lg file transmission:3
>   Octets reçus:3898899 (3.7 MB) Octets transmis:520119 (507.9 KB)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
C'est quoi cette histoire de "192.168.0.133", au lieu de 192.168.88.x??
eb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Joining mDNS multicast 
group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.133.
Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed: 
No buffer space available
Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Registering new address 
record for 192.168.0.133 on eth2.IPv4.
Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Withdrawing address record 
for 169.254.5.88 on eth2.
Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Joining mDNS multicast 
group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.133.
Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed: 
No buffer space available
Feb 20 15:20:29 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7428]: client: RTNETLINK 
answers: No such process
Feb 20 15:20:39 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: No longer a 
routable address configured, restarting probe process.
Feb 20 15:20:39 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Withdrawing address record 
for 192.168.0.133 on eth2.
Feb 20 15:20:39 localhost dhclient: No working leases in persistent 
database - sleeping.

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Re: reseau en panne?

2008-02-20 Par sujet J Bond 0.07
J Bond 0.07 wrote:
> Bonjour,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
  * Configuring network interfaces...  [ OK ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ping violette
PING violette (192.168.88.3) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- violette ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4999ms

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Qu'est ce qu'il me manque encore?:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ifconfig
eth0  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:8F:7A:C6:DD
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Packets reçus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
   Octets reçus:0 (0.0 b) Octets transmis:0 (0.0 b)
   Interruption:16 Adresse de base:0xc000

eth1  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:E7:07:F9:F4
   adr inet6: fe80::218:e7ff:fe07:f9f4/64 Scope:Lien
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Packets reçus:106 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
   Octets reçus:34560 (33.7 KB) Octets transmis:16215 (15.8 KB)
   Interruption:19 Adresse de base:0x4800

eth2  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A7:0C:8B:55
   adr inet6: fe80::210:a7ff:fe0c:8b55/64 Scope:Lien
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Packets reçus:8713 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:7893 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
   Octets reçus:4132491 (3.9 MB) Octets transmis:778541 (760.2 KB)
   Interruption:20 Adresse de base:0xec00

eth0:avah Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:8F:7A:C6:DD
   inet adr:169.254.10.9  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Masque:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Interruption:16 Adresse de base:0xc000

eth1:avah Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:E7:07:F9:F4
   inet adr:169.254.10.164  Bcast:169.254.255.255 
Masque:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Interruption:19 Adresse de base:0x4800

eth2:avah Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A7:0C:8B:55
   inet adr:169.254.5.88  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Masque:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Interruption:20 Adresse de base:0xec00

loLien encap:Boucle locale
   inet adr:127.0.0.1  Masque:255.0.0.0
   adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   Packets reçus:482 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:482 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 lg file transmission:0
   Octets reçus:43439 (42.4 KB) Octets transmis:43439 (42.4 KB)

ppp0  Lien encap:Protocole Point-à-Point
   inet adr:81.20.215.110  P-t-P:195.146.243.11 
Masque:255.255.255.255
   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1492  Metric:1
   Packets reçus:7612 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6512 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 lg file transmission:3
   Octets reçus:3898899 (3.7 MB) Octets transmis:520119 (507.9 KB)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo route
Table de routage IP du noyau
Destination Passerelle  Genmask Indic Metric RefUse 
Iface
lns3.l0.11.143. *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth1
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth2
default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  00 ppp0
default *   0.0.0.0 U 1000   00 eth0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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Re: reseau en panne?

2008-02-20 Par sujet J Bond 0.07
Bonjour,
Je piblie le lien du 'papillon' : il change tous les jour!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo route
Table de routage IP du noyau
Destination Passerelle  Genmask Indic Metric RefUse 
Iface
lns3.l0.11.143. *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth1
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth2
default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  00 ppp0
default *   0.0.0.0 U 1000   00 eth0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$



Voici ce qie dit ce matin /var/log/daemon.log :
(après avoir remis les dns du fai dans dhcpd.conf!...)
y a encore du "papillon' là-dessous!..

(après abandon du MTI=1492 sur eth2!)
Feb 20 10:59:28 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth0)[5760]: Successfully 
claimed IP address 169.254.10.9
Feb 20 10:59:29 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth2 to 
255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
Feb 20 10:59:29 localhost ntpdate[6777]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
Feb 20 10:59:30 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.
Feb 20 10:59:30 localhost dhclient: Trying recorded lease 192.168.0.133
Feb 20 10:59:30 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Joining mDNS multicast 
group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.133.
Feb 20 10:59:30 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: New relevant interface 
eth2.IPv4 for mDNS.
Feb 20 10:59:30 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Registering new address 
record for 192.168.0.133 on eth2.IPv4.
Feb 20 10:59:31 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth1)[6015]: Successfully 
claimed IP address 169.254.10.164
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Withdrawing address record 
for 192.168.0.133 on eth2.
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Leaving mDNS multicast 
group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.133.
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Interface eth2.IPv4 no 
longer relevant for mDNS.
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: Found user 
'avahi-autoipd' (UID 105) and group 'avahi-autoipd' (GID 113).
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: Successfully called 
chroot().
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: Successfully 
dropped root privileges.
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: Starting with 
address 169.254.5.88
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost dhcpd: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server 
V3.0.5
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost dhcpd: Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems 
Consortium.
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost dhcpd: All rights reserved.
Feb 20 10:59:33 localhost dhcpd: For info, please visit 
http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server 
V3.0.5
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems 
Consortium.
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: All rights reserved.
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: For info, please visit 
http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: Wrote 0 leases to leases file.
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 
(169.254.10.164).
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth1.  If this 
is not what
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:you want, please write a subnet 
declaration
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:in your dhcpd.conf file for the 
network segment
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:to which interface eth1 is attached. **
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 
(169.254.10.9).
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth0.  If this 
is not what
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:you want, please write a subnet 
declaration
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:in your dhcpd.conf file for the 
network segment
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:to which interface eth0 is attached. **
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd:
Feb 20 10:59:36 localhost dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
Feb 20 10:59:37 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: Callout BIND, 
address 169.254.5.88 on interface eth2
Feb 20 10:59:37 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Joining mDNS multicast 
group on interface eth2.IPv4 with address 169.254.5.88.
Feb 20 10:59:37 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed: 
No buffer space available
Feb 20 10:59:37 localhost avahi-daemon[6456]: Registering new address 
record for 169.254.5.88 on eth2.IPv4.
Feb 20 10:59:37 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7428]: client: RTNETLINK 
answers: File exists
Feb 20 10:59:38 localhost ntpdate[7754]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
Feb 20 10:59:41 localhost avahi-autoipd(eth2)[7427]: Successfully 
claimed IP address 169.254.5.88
Feb 20 10:59:41 localhost dhclient: No working leases in persistent 
database - sleeping.
Feb 20 10:59:41 localhost ntpdate[7868]: the NTP