Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?
In 13.04 I have used it since the fresh install and I haven't experienced any issue. Using it or not is at your will. Lots of extensions are already updated, AFAIK. Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 11:45, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ? And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...). Thank you guys ! -- HadiM -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?
I really think this last thing is a thing of routine. It's all about getting used to it. I'm sure someone will come up with an extension to revert to the old distribution. Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 12:39, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote: Last thing: I really don't like the icons merge on the upper right of the desktop. That totally counter productive cuz now I can't easly access to sound options or change screen brightness quickly with scroll without any click... They really should let user to choice between merge or no merge. Anyway I know this is a gnome team choice and it is nothing to do with you guys but I just wanted to let you know :-D -- HadiM On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:35 PM, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. I just tried ppa staging on 13.10 and gnome seems to work fine BUT none extensions are working. I guess only because 3.9.91 (actual dev 3.10 version) are not in metadata.json of extensions. I could change it manually and try extensions one by one but I didnt want to... So I purge ppa staging and I am know back to initial Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 with gnome3 ppa. So I ask again: will Ubuntu Gnome team planned to switch from 3.8 to 3.10 in stable gnome3 ppa ? PS: take care if you purge ppa staging on 13.10, ubuntu-gnome-desktop and network-manager was removed during purge... I had to manually setup a wired connection on console to be able to reinstall these two packages. -- HadiM On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: In 13.04 I have used it since the fresh install and I haven't experienced any issue. Using it or not is at your will. Lots of extensions are already updated, AFAIK. Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 11:45, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ? And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...). Thank you guys ! -- HadiM -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?
So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from 3.10, right? Just 3.8 and unstable 3.10... Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote: Hi HadiM On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote: Hello, I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ? The plan for the saucy cycle is *gnome3* ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy *gnome3-next* ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once they are ready, which should be quite soon. *gnome3-staging* ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing or have known bugs/regressions. Tim And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...). Thank you guys ! -- HadiM -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?
On 08/09/13 03:08, Alfredo Hernndez wrote: So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from 3.10, right? Just 3.8 and "unstable" 3.10... If you are using gnome3-staging, you should also add gnome3-next! Tim Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, "Tim" t...@feathertop.org wrote: Hi HadiM On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote: Hello, I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ? The plan for the saucy cycle is gnome3 ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy gnome3-next ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once they are ready, which should be quite soon. gnome3-staging ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing or have known bugs/regressions. Tim And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...). Thank you guys ! -- HadiM -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?
Okay. What I thought :) Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 19:16, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote: On 08/09/13 03:08, Alfredo Hernández wrote: So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from 3.10, right? Just 3.8 and unstable 3.10... If you are using gnome3-staging, you should also add gnome3-next! Tim Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote: Hi HadiM On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote: Hello, I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ? The plan for the saucy cycle is *gnome3* ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy *gnome3-next* ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once they are ready, which should be quite soon. *gnome3-staging* ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing or have known bugs/regressions. Tim And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...). Thank you guys ! -- HadiM -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?
Perfect that's all I would know ! Thank you Tim -- Hadrien Mary Ph.D student in Biology Tournier-Gachet Team CNRS - LBCMCP - UMR 5088 Université de Toulouse - Bât. 4R3B1 118, route de Narbonne - 31062 Toulouse On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote: On 08/09/13 03:08, Alfredo Hernández wrote: So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from 3.10, right? Just 3.8 and unstable 3.10... If you are using gnome3-staging, you should also add gnome3-next! Tim Alfredo On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote: Hi HadiM On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote: Hello, I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ? The plan for the saucy cycle is *gnome3* ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy *gnome3-next* ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once they are ready, which should be quite soon. *gnome3-staging* ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing or have known bugs/regressions. Tim And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...). Thank you guys ! -- HadiM -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Issue with the Beta 1 on a Dell XPS13 + UEFI + Win8
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Romuald TISSERAND rtisser...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, as I wrote on G+, Hello and welcome to Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List :) I'm so glad that you joined and took my advice to send to the list rather than post on Google+ ;) I'm facing lot of issues with this beta. Let's go one by one :) I need to make a double boot with Windows 8. And as I read UEFI is now well supported by Ubuntu, I setup my PC Bios to use UEFI (SecureBoot is disabled). Because I don't have such machine (I'm a huge fan of old machines actually), all what I can offer regarding this is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI I used the Rufus software to burn a UEFI compliant USB Key with UG 13.10 Beta. First issue : the USB key starts in UEFI but the display (HD4000) is not correctly managed, then the PC is not usable. Bios setup to start in Legacy mode, the LiveCD starts well. So, are you saying with Legacy Mode, everything seems okay? Once started (so in Legacy mode), if I double click on Install Ubuntu Gnome, nothing happens at all. I don't know the command to launch it in a terminal. Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation Install Ubuntu GNOME from the Live Desktop https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1217177 It is a known bug that we hopefully can fix - problem is, the developers can't re-produce it while others can! Another issue: I started directly to Install Ubuntu Gnome. The GUI starts well, but I connect to my Wifi network. If I click on its name, nothing happens. This works well if I just start on the LiveCD. - I restarted the process and was able to launch correctly Ubiquity but directly by choosing Directly install... at boot. This is so confusing! Can you please, re-explain? Are you saying everything will be fine when: Boot from your Live Media Choose Install Ubuntu GNOME from the Menu carry on with the installation? As the SSD is UEFI, Ubuntu doesn't detect Windows, I guess this is normal, but any documentation pointer to deal with would be great. romu Link posted above :) www.googlubuntu.com can be handy too ;) Thank you! -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us.* *Best Regards, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Projects: IamNewToLinux http://iamnewtolinux.blogspot.com/ - StartUbuntu Projecthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu - Linux Brainstorming https://www.facebook.com/groups/352004991569676/ - Mubuntuhttp://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/draft-mubuntu-simple-minimal-system.html -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: [Vote for a Proposal] Monthly/Weekly Meetings (IRC/Google Hangout)
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote: How about 20:00 UTC 3rd Monday of each month. That would make the first meeting Sep 16! Tim Even though 20:00 UTS is 12:00am my time but I don't mind at all. 20:00 UTS, 16-09-2013 What do you guys think??? -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us.* *Best Regards, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Projects: IamNewToLinux http://iamnewtolinux.blogspot.com/ - StartUbuntu Projecthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu - Linux Brainstorming https://www.facebook.com/groups/352004991569676/ - Mubuntuhttp://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/draft-mubuntu-simple-minimal-system.html -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome