Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?

2013-09-07 Thread Alfredo Hernández
In 13.04 I have used it since the fresh install and I haven't experienced
any issue.
Using it or not is at your will.

Lots of extensions are already updated, AFAIK.

Alfredo
On 7 Sep 2013 11:45, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very
 safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10
 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it
 in gnome 3 ppa ?

 And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the
 same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait
 extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's
 only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...).

 Thank you guys !


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Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?

2013-09-07 Thread Alfredo Hernández
I really think this last thing is a thing of routine. It's all about
getting used to it. I'm sure someone will come up with an extension to
revert to the old distribution.

Alfredo
On 7 Sep 2013 12:39, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last thing: I really don't like the icons merge on the upper right of the
 desktop. That totally counter productive cuz now I can't easly access to
 sound options or change screen brightness quickly with scroll without any
 click... They really should let user to choice between merge or no merge.

 Anyway I know this is a gnome team choice and it is nothing to do with you
 guys but I just wanted to let you know :-D


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 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:35 PM, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok. I just tried ppa staging on 13.10 and gnome seems to work fine BUT
 none extensions are working. I guess only because 3.9.91 (actual dev
 3.10 version) are not in metadata.json of extensions. I could change it
 manually and try extensions one by one but I didnt want to... So I purge
 ppa staging and I am know back to initial Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 with gnome3
 ppa.

 So I ask again: will Ubuntu Gnome team planned to switch from 3.8 to 3.10
 in stable gnome3 ppa ?

 PS: take care if you purge ppa staging on 13.10, ubuntu-gnome-desktop and
 network-manager was removed during purge... I had to manually setup a wired
 connection on console to be able to reinstall these two packages.


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 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Alfredo Hernández 
 aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote:

 In 13.04 I have used it since the fresh install and I haven't
 experienced any issue.
 Using it or not is at your will.

 Lots of extensions are already updated, AFAIK.

 Alfredo
 On 7 Sep 2013 11:45, HadiM marel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,

 I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very
 safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10
 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it
 in gnome 3 ppa ?

 And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the
 same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait
 extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's
 only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...).

 Thank you guys !


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Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?

2013-09-07 Thread Alfredo Hernández
So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from
3.10,  right? Just 3.8 and unstable 3.10...

Alfredo
On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote:

  Hi HadiM
 On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote:

 Hello,

  I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very
 safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10
 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it
 in gnome 3 ppa ?

 The plan for the saucy cycle is
 *gnome3* ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy
 *gnome3-next* ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10
 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once
 they are ready, which should be quite soon.
 *gnome3-staging* ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing
 or have known bugs/regressions.

 Tim


  And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the
 same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait
 extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's
 only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...).

  Thank you guys !


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Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?

2013-09-07 Thread Tim

  
  

On 08/09/13 03:08, Alfredo Hernndez
  wrote:


  So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have
stable packages from 3.10, right? Just 3.8 and "unstable"
3.10...

If you are using gnome3-staging, you should also add gnome3-next!

Tim

  Alfredo 
  On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, "Tim" t...@feathertop.org
wrote:

   Hi HadiM
On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote:


  Hello,


I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am
  not certain it's very safe to use this ppa for daily
  usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10 in 13.10
  but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned
  to bring it in gnome 3 ppa ?
  

The plan for the saucy cycle is 
gnome3 ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy
gnome3-next ppa - This is a new one, that will
contain the stable 3.10 bits. Its Empty right now, but will
start copying packages into here once they are ready, which
should be quite soon.
gnome3-staging ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still
need more testing or have known bugs/regressions.

Tim

  

   
  
  And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome
3.10 ? It will be the same mess as when we switch
from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait extension
developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of
the time it's only about adding 3.10 in
metadata.json...).
  
  
  Thank you guys !

  
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Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?

2013-09-07 Thread Alfredo Hernández
Okay. What I thought :)

Alfredo
On 7 Sep 2013 19:16, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote:


 On 08/09/13 03:08, Alfredo Hernández wrote:

 So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from
 3.10,  right? Just 3.8 and unstable 3.10...

 If you are using gnome3-staging, you should also add gnome3-next!

 Tim

 Alfredo
 On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote:

  Hi HadiM
 On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote:

 Hello,

  I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very
 safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10
 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it
 in gnome 3 ppa ?

 The plan for the saucy cycle is
 *gnome3* ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy
 *gnome3-next* ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10
 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once
 they are ready, which should be quite soon.
 *gnome3-staging* ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing
 or have known bugs/regressions.

 Tim


  And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the
 same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait
 extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's
 only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...).

  Thank you guys !


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Re: Gnome 3.10 in 13.10 ?

2013-09-07 Thread Hadrien Mary
Perfect that's all I would know !

Thank you Tim


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On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote:


 On 08/09/13 03:08, Alfredo Hernández wrote:

 So, if you enable gnome3 and stacking, you won't have stable packages from
 3.10,  right? Just 3.8 and unstable 3.10...

 If you are using gnome3-staging, you should also add gnome3-next!

 Tim

  Alfredo
 On 7 Sep 2013 19:04, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote:

  Hi HadiM
 On 07/09/13 19:44, HadiM wrote:

 Hello,

  I saw gnome 3.10 packages in ppa staging but I am not certain it's very
 safe to use this ppa for daily usage. I know Ubuntu won't bring Gnome 3.10
 in 13.10 but I would like to know if Ubuntu Gnome team planned to bring it
 in gnome 3 ppa ?

 The plan for the saucy cycle is
 *gnome3* ppa - 3.8 bits that missing from Saucy
 *gnome3-next* ppa - This is a new one, that will contain the stable 3.10
 bits. Its Empty right now, but will start copying packages into here once
 they are ready, which should be quite soon.
 *gnome3-staging* ppa - As usual, 3.10 bits that still need more testing
 or have known bugs/regressions.

 Tim


  And what about gnome extension if we enable gnome 3.10 ? It will be the
 same mess as when we switch from 3.6 to 3.8 ? Will we have to wait
 extension developers upgrade to the new API (even if most of the time it's
 only about adding 3.10 in metadata.json...).

  Thank you guys !


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Re: Issue with the Beta 1 on a Dell XPS13 + UEFI + Win8

2013-09-07 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Romuald TISSERAND rtisser...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi, as I wrote on G+,


Hello and welcome to Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List :)
I'm so glad that you joined and took my advice to send to the list rather
than post on Google+ ;)



 I'm facing lot of issues with this beta.


Let's go one by one :)



 I need to make a double boot with Windows 8. And as I read UEFI is now
 well supported by Ubuntu, I setup my PC Bios to use UEFI (SecureBoot is
 disabled).


Because I don't have such machine (I'm a huge fan of old machines
actually), all what I can offer regarding this is:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI



 I used the Rufus software to burn a UEFI compliant USB Key with UG 13.10
 Beta.

 First issue : the USB key starts in UEFI but the display (HD4000) is not
 correctly managed, then the PC is not usable. Bios setup to start in Legacy
 mode, the LiveCD starts well.


So, are you saying with Legacy Mode, everything seems okay?


Once started (so in Legacy mode), if I double click on Install Ubuntu
 Gnome, nothing happens at all. I don't know the command to launch it in a
 terminal.


Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation  Install Ubuntu GNOME from the Live
Desktop  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1217177

It is a known bug that we hopefully can fix - problem is, the developers
can't re-produce it while others can!


Another issue: I started directly to Install Ubuntu Gnome. The GUI starts
 well, but I connect to my Wifi network. If I click on its name, nothing
 happens. This works well if I just start on the LiveCD. - I restarted the
 process and was able to launch correctly Ubiquity but directly by choosing
 Directly install... at boot.


This is so confusing!
Can you please, re-explain?

Are you saying everything will be fine when:
Boot from your Live Media  Choose Install Ubuntu GNOME from the Menu 
carry on with the installation?


As the SSD is UEFI, Ubuntu doesn't detect Windows, I guess this is normal,
 but any documentation pointer to deal with would be great.

 romu


Link posted above :)

www.googlubuntu.com
can be handy too ;)

Thank you!
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Re: [Vote for a Proposal] Monthly/Weekly Meetings (IRC/Google Hangout)

2013-09-07 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Tim t...@feathertop.org wrote:

  How about 20:00 UTC 3rd Monday of each month. That would make the first
 meeting Sep 16!

 Tim


Even though 20:00 UTS is 12:00am my time but I don't mind at all.

20:00 UTS, 16-09-2013

What do you guys think???


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