RE: [Proposal] Weekly Report
2 cents: why not use Ubuntu Planet / Gnome Planet to publish these reports? João Santana Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone De: Ali/amjjawadmailto:amjja...@gnome.org Enviada em: 09/02/2014 13:00 Para: ubuntu-gnomemailto:ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com Assunto: [Proposal] Weekly Report Hi Everyone, First of all, I know I've been away from real action lately due to some problems I'm having. Some of these that I can share with you here is my inbox is receiving more than 100 emails daily and I'm totally lost. However, that should be fixed now. I have created new email for everything that is not Ubuntu GNOME related and updated all my subscriptions. It is really hard to handle many projects at the very same time :) Second of all, I've been thinking a lot of how to get the best of the Sub-Teams, how to improve the internal communications, how to overcome the endless issue of having a monthly meeting and above all, how to let our users and even the members of this community to stay 'up-to-date' with each and everything that is going on. If truth to be told, the idea that I am going to propose has come as a hint from a friend who has nothing to do with Ubuntu GNOME but we were chatting the other day and he told me this: *In Germany the people prefer official flavors like Lubuntu. The only unofficial flavor of Ubuntu that is popular is Bodhi Linux, I think mainly because Jeff Hoogland is communicative and tells the world what's going on. He has a blog, where he shares his experiences with Bodhi Linux development.* The above statement/paragraph made me think a lot. I was about to propose that our development team starts to share some news about what exactly they're doing. Not everyone has a technical background and most if not all the whole world would like to know what is going on with Ubuntu GNOME. I think this is a *key success *not just to improve the internal communications between team members and/or improve things but to *gain more and more popularity*. When you tell people about what we do, that is an easy way to attract people to join. If other developers will understand what exactly is happening, they might join. Other Non-Technical people might also be interested to join. IMHO, this is MUCH BETTER than keep nagging on our Social Media Channels and beg for more help. Tell you the truth, it just not working anymore. I am not interested to post any call of help because simply people don't like that anymore. I can tell that because only very few who click Like or +1 and this will do the opposite - losing interested people. That is *NOT* what we need. That said, my final proposal is: Each Leader/Driver of each Sub-Team of Ubuntu GNOME needs to provide a Weekly Report of what is going on with his/her team. Yes, that is indeed what the Blueprints are for but NOT everyone is familiar with that. Above all and this is what I personally care for, the users can't really understand anything from a blueprint. These Weekly Reports should be in form of 'Email' not a Wiki Page, not a blueprint, nothing complicated. Just a simple and plain email. These Weekly Reports will be posted on our website and social media channels every week. Each Monday (for example), we will share our reports with the whole world so submission should be before that. News, Updates, Plans, stuff like that. That is all about. No Technical stuff or things that hard to understand. Just interesting things that the world needs to know about us. Each Sub-Team has a mailing list. It is time to use these :) I am excited and willing to start right now but as always, I do need your opinion. I trust this idea will make Ubuntu GNOME more popular. Bring more interested people to contribute. This is much better than posting a Wiki Page link and ask people to join. Much more effective that sharing a blueprint link and ask people to read/follow. We do have a website and social media channels. Let's get the best of these otherwise, IMHO, these channels are totally useless if we won't use them the best way. This is a proposal. Feel free to agree/disagree and I care for your feedback either way: +1 = Agreed. 0 = I don't know. -1 = Disagree. Thanks! -- Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad *Remember: *All of us are smarter than any one of us. Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage Join Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved Test Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing Contact Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs Download Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: [Proposal] Weekly Report
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, João Santana joaosant...@outlook.comwrote: 2 cents: why not use Ubuntu Planet / Gnome Planet to publish these reports? Hi, Thank you for your reply :) It seems you didn't read this ;) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-February/001570.html I am not yet an official member of Ubuntu so I can't 'directly' post to the Planet but as you see, two stories about Ubuntu GNOME on the last week issue of Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (UWN) ;) As for GNOME, now that I got the membership, I will do that shortly but first we do need to 'agree' on this proposal. Once done, each sub-team will submit a 'TEXT' report on 'Email' format. After that, these reports will be published on our official website and elsewhere :) UWN is published every Monday so the website of Ubuntu GNOME must be updated on Saturday so that we make sure our news will show up on the weekly issue ;) João Santana Thank you! Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone -- De: Ali/amjjawad amjja...@gnome.org Enviada em: 09/02/2014 13:00 Para: ubuntu-gnome ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com Assunto: [Proposal] Weekly Report Hi Everyone, First of all, I know I've been away from real action lately due to some problems I'm having. Some of these that I can share with you here is my inbox is receiving more than 100 emails daily and I'm totally lost. However, that should be fixed now. I have created new email for everything that is not Ubuntu GNOME related and updated all my subscriptions. It is really hard to handle many projects at the very same time :) Second of all, I've been thinking a lot of how to get the best of the Sub-Teams, how to improve the internal communications, how to overcome the endless issue of having a monthly meeting and above all, how to let our users and even the members of this community to stay 'up-to-date' with each and everything that is going on. If truth to be told, the idea that I am going to propose has come as a hint from a friend who has nothing to do with Ubuntu GNOME but we were chatting the other day and he told me this: *In Germany the people prefer official flavors like Lubuntu. The only unofficial flavor of Ubuntu that is popular is Bodhi Linux, I think mainly because Jeff Hoogland is communicative and tells the world what's going on. He has a blog, where he shares his experiences with Bodhi Linux development.* The above statement/paragraph made me think a lot. I was about to propose that our development team starts to share some news about what exactly they're doing. Not everyone has a technical background and most if not all the whole world would like to know what is going on with Ubuntu GNOME. I think this is a *key success *not just to improve the internal communications between team members and/or improve things but to *gain more and more popularity*. When you tell people about what we do, that is an easy way to attract people to join. If other developers will understand what exactly is happening, they might join. Other Non-Technical people might also be interested to join. IMHO, this is MUCH BETTER than keep nagging on our Social Media Channels and beg for more help. Tell you the truth, it just not working anymore. I am not interested to post any call of help because simply people don't like that anymore. I can tell that because only very few who click Like or +1 and this will do the opposite - losing interested people. That is *NOT* what we need. That said, my final proposal is: Each Leader/Driver of each Sub-Team of Ubuntu GNOME needs to provide a Weekly Report of what is going on with his/her team. Yes, that is indeed what the Blueprints are for but NOT everyone is familiar with that. Above all and this is what I personally care for, the users can't really understand anything from a blueprint. These Weekly Reports should be in form of 'Email' not a Wiki Page, not a blueprint, nothing complicated. Just a simple and plain email. These Weekly Reports will be posted on our website and social media channels every week. Each Monday (for example), we will share our reports with the whole world so submission should be before that. News, Updates, Plans, stuff like that. That is all about. No Technical stuff or things that hard to understand. Just interesting things that the world needs to know about us. Each Sub-Team has a mailing list. It is time to use these :) I am excited and willing to start right now but as always, I do need your opinion. I trust this idea will make Ubuntu GNOME more popular. Bring more interested people to contribute. This is much better than posting a Wiki Page link and ask people to join. Much more effective that sharing a blueprint link and ask people to read/follow. We do have a website and social media channels. Let's get the best of these otherwise, IMHO, these channels are totally useless if we won't use them
Re: [Proposal] Weekly Report
I'm not real keen on weekly reports however there are perhaps other on the packaging team that could do it. Steve, Parin? Tim On 11/02/14 21:27, Ali/amjjawad wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Joo Santana joaosant...@outlook.com wrote: 2 cents: why not use Ubuntu Planet / Gnome Planet to publish these reports? Hi, Thank you for your reply :) It seems you didn't read this ;) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-February/001570.html I am not yet an official member of Ubuntu so I can't 'directly' post to the Planet but as you see, two stories about Ubuntu GNOME on the last week issue of Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (UWN) ;) As for GNOME, now that I got the membership, I will do that shortly but first we do need to 'agree' on this proposal. Once done, each sub-team will submit a 'TEXT' report on 'Email' format. After that, these reports will be published on our official website and elsewhere :) UWN is published every Monday so the website of Ubuntu GNOME must be updated on Saturday so that we make sure our news will show up on the weekly issue ;) Joo Santana Thank you! Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone De: Ali/amjjawad Enviada em: 09/02/2014 13:00 Para: ubuntu-gnome Assunto: [Proposal] Weekly Report Hi Everyone, First of all, I know I've been away from real action lately due to some problems I'm having. Some of these that I can share with you here is my inbox is receiving more than 100 emails daily and I'm totally lost. However, that should be fixed now. I have created new email for everything that is not Ubuntu GNOME related and updated all my subscriptions. It is really hard to handle many projects at the very same time :) Second of all, I've been thinking a lot of how to get the best of the Sub-Teams, how to improve the internal communications, how to overcome the endless issue of having a monthly meeting and above all, how to let our users and even the members of this community to stay 'up-to-date' with each and everything that is going on. If truth to be told, the idea that I am going to propose has come as a hint from a friend who has nothing to do with Ubuntu GNOME but we were chatting the other day and he told me this: "In Germany the people prefer official flavors like Lubuntu. The only unofficial flavor of Ubuntu that is "popular" is Bodhi Linux, I think mainly because Jeff Hoogland is
Re: [Proposal] Weekly Report
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tim dark...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'm not real keen on weekly reports I know that :P You don't have to do this, by the way :) You're doing a great job on the Technical Side of this project so keep up the good work and leave the rest to us ;) however there are perhaps other on the packaging team that could do it. Steve, Parin? Indeed. I was about to suggest the same but thought to give them some space to step in :D Tim Thank you for everything you're doing. We need to gain more popularity to have more contributors - I know this will happen sooner or later because I will never give up. Ubuntu GNOME will be different, it is a matter of time, trust me. On 11/02/14 21:27, Ali/amjjawad wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, João Santana joaosant...@outlook.comwrote: 2 cents: why not use Ubuntu Planet / Gnome Planet to publish these reports? Hi, Thank you for your reply :) It seems you didn't read this ;) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-February/001570.html I am not yet an official member of Ubuntu so I can't 'directly' post to the Planet but as you see, two stories about Ubuntu GNOME on the last week issue of Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (UWN) ;) As for GNOME, now that I got the membership, I will do that shortly but first we do need to 'agree' on this proposal. Once done, each sub-team will submit a 'TEXT' report on 'Email' format. After that, these reports will be published on our official website and elsewhere :) UWN is published every Monday so the website of Ubuntu GNOME must be updated on Saturday so that we make sure our news will show up on the weekly issue ;) João Santana Thank you! Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone -- De: Ali/amjjawad amjja...@gnome.org Enviada em: 09/02/2014 13:00 Para: ubuntu-gnome ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com Assunto: [Proposal] Weekly Report Hi Everyone, First of all, I know I've been away from real action lately due to some problems I'm having. Some of these that I can share with you here is my inbox is receiving more than 100 emails daily and I'm totally lost. However, that should be fixed now. I have created new email for everything that is not Ubuntu GNOME related and updated all my subscriptions. It is really hard to handle many projects at the very same time :) Second of all, I've been thinking a lot of how to get the best of the Sub-Teams, how to improve the internal communications, how to overcome the endless issue of having a monthly meeting and above all, how to let our users and even the members of this community to stay 'up-to-date' with each and everything that is going on. If truth to be told, the idea that I am going to propose has come as a hint from a friend who has nothing to do with Ubuntu GNOME but we were chatting the other day and he told me this: *In Germany the people prefer official flavors like Lubuntu. The only unofficial flavor of Ubuntu that is popular is Bodhi Linux, I think mainly because Jeff Hoogland is communicative and tells the world what's going on. He has a blog, where he shares his experiences with Bodhi Linux development.* The above statement/paragraph made me think a lot. I was about to propose that our development team starts to share some news about what exactly they're doing. Not everyone has a technical background and most if not all the whole world would like to know what is going on with Ubuntu GNOME. I think this is a *key success *not just to improve the internal communications between team members and/or improve things but to *gain more and more popularity*. When you tell people about what we do, that is an easy way to attract people to join. If other developers will understand what exactly is happening, they might join. Other Non-Technical people might also be interested to join. IMHO, this is MUCH BETTER than keep nagging on our Social Media Channels and beg for more help. Tell you the truth, it just not working anymore. I am not interested to post any call of help because simply people don't like that anymore. I can tell that because only very few who click Like or +1 and this will do the opposite - losing interested people. That is *NOT* what we need. That said, my final proposal is: Each Leader/Driver of each Sub-Team of Ubuntu GNOME needs to provide a Weekly Report of what is going on with his/her team. Yes, that is indeed what the Blueprints are for but NOT everyone is familiar with that. Above all and this is what I personally care for, the users can't really understand anything from a blueprint. These Weekly Reports should be in form of 'Email' not a Wiki Page, not a blueprint, nothing complicated. Just a simple and plain email. These Weekly Reports will be posted on our website and social media channels every week. Each Monday (for example), we will share our reports with the whole
Re: Team Meetings, yet again
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Andrea Crescentini cresh...@gmail.comwrote: So for me is 3:00 PM (GMT +1 Rome)? Hi, I am afraid that is not the place where you're suppose to vote :) Please find the link I sent earlier and vote :) Any vote here will be ignored. Also, and hope you won't get me wrong but can all of us follow the right way to reply and do a bottom posting? http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists It is really confusing when some do bottom posting while others do the other wise. Which program we use for meetings? It doesn't matter which one. We need to find a time and day and this time and date will be fixed, as I explained on my previous email :) Andrea Crescentini Thank you! *Da:* Steve Ovens steve_ov...@linux.com *Data invio:* lunedì 10 febbraio 2014 17:18 *A:* 'amjjawad' amjja...@gnome.org *Cc:* ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com I voted, Saturday or Sunday 14:00 GMT or onward since I am gmt -5, that makes weekdays very difficult On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Ali/amjjawad amjja...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Ali/amjjawad amjja...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, I sent the below email a week ago: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Ali/amjjawad amjja...@gnome.orgwrote: Hi, I know, I know. I am too not sure if that is even possible. I've been suffering from having a decent meeting and it seems it is not going to happen but I don't give up :) Let's see ... What do you prefer? A meeting on IRC/Google+ to discuss the important issue? OR An email to be sent and the discussion will be on the mailing list? I do need to sit and talk with each sub-team. I have noticed lots of good and not good stuff that we need to address before we release 14.04 and before we go for 14.10 :) Let's make this as easy and simple as possible. What do you prefer? Meeting? Email? Vote! Thank you :) -- Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad *Remember: *All of us are smarter than any one of us. Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage Join Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved Test Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing Contact Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs Download Ubuntu GNOMEhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME Yet, we didn't come up with any solution to this endless issue :D The problem is 'not' with the tool that we shall sue to chat. The problem is the 'when' :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/Agenda I think you know what should you do ;) Also, my email was asking about: Do you prefer an email to the mailing list? or team meetings? We can follow Ubuntu vUDS and do both Hangout and IRC so those who are not shy to share their voice and maybe face can use Hangout (I don't mind to use both :D) and those who are shy or prefer IRC, can use it. I've participated in many vUDS and we used both. So, I am publicly announcing that: I am ready for 1-2-1 meetings with anyone or team meeting. Anytime, any where, just name it. This offer will be valid for a short period :D Do you want me to create a poll to vote for the best date and time???!!! -- Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad *Remember: *All of us are smarter than any one of us. Poll is ready: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DaSuTMwlhph-DBnrKuAP-pTuMg715nik5FlV3wY7swU/viewform I think this is the easiest way to finish this :) Note: The Time and Day will be FIXED. Which means, such discussion will NOT happen ever again :D If you ask me, I'd prefer to have meetings before each milestone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule Example: February 27th will be the release of Beta 1 our meeting should be before that. That would be the best option ever. I am sure you all will agree. But, we need to decide the 'day' and 'time' :) Thank you! -- Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad *Remember: *All of us are smarter than any one of us. Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage Join Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved Test Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing Contact Ubuntu GNOME https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs Download Ubuntu GNOMEhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Red Hat Certified Engineer Ubuntu Certified Professional Novell Datacenter Specialist Novell Certified Linux Administrator LPIC-1 Certified Linux+ Certified -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
Testing Gnome 3.10 in Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 (PPA).
Hi, I added the GNOME PPA and got 3.10 on one of my machines. Since it's an upgrade I wonder if some of the oddities I see are features, misconfigurations or bugs. - No access to setting up networks from network settings. I have to open the separate application Network Connections to work on connections like VPN. My VPN shows up under Netwok settings but under Identity it says Error: unable to load VPN connection editor). Are there two interfaces for setting up networks? - Loaded extensions were forgotten after reboot. I figured that one out though by choosing default instead of Gnome on the login screen. - Can't resize the Control Center window. Is that by design? - No hibernate and standby options when I click top left. Only poweroff and restart is available. Is there a way to reset Gnome Shell to default 3.10 so I can add all my settings again making sure I do it the 3.10 way? -- //Christian Dropbox - Your stuff anywhere! - https://db.tt/U8MqkVR -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
