Fwd: Gnome-Shell 3.10 - problem with extensions

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Same for me. And since few days, when UG starts, I face 2 system error
popups.

romu


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Jarosław Guza  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> iam user of Ubuntu Gnome, and i am usin Gnome-Shell 3.10 in Ubuntu 13.10.
>
> There is a big problem with extensions, they are all turned off after a
> reboot, and have to turn them on manually.
>
> I didnt have this problem with GS 3.8..
>
> what more info do you need to help me? :)
>
> best regards
>
> Jarek
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Re: Anybody else having trouble installing printers?

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi guys,
I've never been able to install my printer (connected to my router) with
Gnome 3 (all versions). Instead I use system-config-printer which works
well. Once added with this utility, your printer will appear also in the
Gnome printer applet.

romu


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Jason Sauders  wrote:
>
>> Hello friends.
>>
>
> Hello Jason,
>
> Thank you for your email :)
>
>
>
>> I installed Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 on my desktop, along with the next and
>> staging PPAs. I'm fully up to date. I had problems installing both of my
>> network printers (Epson Workforce 435, which is actually via USB, and HP
>> Laserjet 2100n via ethernet on LAN) early on but I just ignored it as 13.10
>> was literally out of the gate. I had a short affair with another distro
>> that left me longing for Ubuntu GNOME, so I came back. I did a fresh
>> install and all of the updates and whatnot ad... still having this
>> problem.
>>
>
> I would never even bother to look at another distribution just because of
> a Printer Issue but that is me :)
> We will do our best to help, no worries :)
>
>
>>
>> What happens is, I click on the depressed-looking printer GUI and let it
>> scan for printers. It comes up with both. I click on the printer I want and
>> it says "installing", but a full second later it disappears and simply says
>> "Failed to add new printer."
>>
>
> Not 100% sure if this is related but could you please have a look at this:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1133794
>
> Let me know if the workaround posted will help you or not.
>
>
>
>>
>> Before I fired out a bug report I wanted to scan the grounds and see what
>> you guys are running into. Anybody running into this?
>>
>
> Yes, no problem, this is good idea to check before reporting a bug :)
>
>
>
>>
>> Side note - Both printers install and function 100% if added via CUPS web
>> interface @ localhost:631.
>>
>
> Indeed, this is what I personally do whenever I want to deal with Printer
> Installation :) I feel that I have more control over an GUI application :)
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for your time and contributions!
>> -J
>>
>>
> Thank you and most welcome :)
>
> Also, have a look at:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#Ask_for_Help_.26_Support
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Could we have a UG technical status?

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi all,
Even if I didn't read everything, I've seen a lot of messages related to
build the UG communication staff. In my opinion, technical should come
before communication. Some days ago, I posted a message on the UG G+ page
asking for a technical status about the current situation of UG, and more
important, about the future. I've had no answer at all.

Here is what I know:
- UG 13.10 runs Gnome 3.8
- Ubuntu 14.04 LTS plans to stay with Gnome 3.8 (2 releases behind Gnome)
- Gnome Shell 3.10 stands in the Gnome3 Next ppa (but only the shell)
- Some Gnome 3.10 applications stand in the Gnome3 Staging but not all (no
Maps, nor Photos, nor Music, etc).

If staging is for unstable Gnome version, so it should contain 3.12
development branch, right? And 3.10 apps should have been included into the
Next ppa, right?

Tim sent a message some weeks ago saying Gnome 3.10 (and future versions as
well) raises an compability issue with the Ubuntu baseline (probably
because of the Upstart Ubuntu initiative versus the systemd used by Gnome).

So I think, and would really appreciate, a clarification about what are the
UG present and future. Don't misunderstand me, I don't do UG bashing. I use
Ubuntu on a daily basis since Breezy Badger (2006?), and I used to run
Gnome in the previous millenium ;-). I like both of them, but to me, Gnome
is more important than Ubuntu. And If I can't run a vanilla Gnome on an
Ubuntu baseline, so be it, I'll switch.

Some people clicked +1 on my G+ message, so I guess I'm not the only guy
trying to see something. I appreciate efforts to build a community (kudo to
Ali for that), but that should come on a second time, when goals and
roadmap are clearly stated for everyone, don't you think?

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2 issues to confirm

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
I re-installed my pro PC with UG 13.10 + Next + Staging.

I've found 2 issues, would be great if someone could confirm:
- Epiphany doesn't appear in the Gnome applications view. Searching Web or
Epiphany returns nothing. Of course launching from a terminal works well,
and the /usr/share/applications/epiphany.desktop does exist and contains
AFAIK valid information.

- Gnome Enterprise Login (aka Kerberos, Windows AD,...) doesn't work
anymore. I created my account, entered my credentials. But anytime I try to
connect a network resource, I'm asked for my credentials, this was not the
case with 13.04. I can try to debug but don't know where to start.

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Re: [Suggestion] Artwork Planing for Ubuntu GNOME 14.04

[Romuald TISSERAND]

One suggestion for the installation slideshow: I think it would be more
gnomish if Firefox would be shown with the Gnome theme plugin and not the
default theme.

romu


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just quick suggestions to invest time before the real work start and
> everyone gets busy ;)
>
>
>- While the Feedback Survey on our Social Media Sites is not yet done,
>I've read some comments asking for more improvement and some other comments
>for those who didn't like the Artwork while most of our users didn't say
>anything about that so I can only assume they are happy. We can discuss
>that on the coming days or at least when the survey is over :)
>- This cycle, we must have a Wallpaper Contest - same as [1] :)
>- IMHO, we do need more than one default Wallpaper. For example, we
>have 3 made by our Artwork Team and the other by the users.
>- Do we need to recruit more contributors for the Artwork Team this
>cycle?
>- Feel Free to share your own suggestions :)
>
>
> As a personal note:
> From my own point of view, I think we have achieved a huge Success for
> 13.10 cycle by updating our Slideshow, changed our Plymouth [2] and above
> all, having our own dedicated Artwork Team [3].  Not to mention the amazing
> Artwork for the Wiki Area [4]. We are moving forward with solid and strong
> steps so let's keep up the great work :)
>
> Thank you, Alfredo for your hard and great work!
>
> [1] - https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00516.html
>
> [2] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
>
> [3] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Artwork
>
> [4] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Artwork/Graphics
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Software Center still a mess

[Romuald TISSERAND]

I re-installed my professionnal computer with UG 13.10 + Next + Staging,
and I must say that months after, the bugs with software center are still
not fixed.

I can work with a terminal personally, but that's a must have feature.
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Re: EOG can't display images

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I just re-installed my work PC and EOG works fine. So something has not
been updated on my own computer.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> 3.10 also (Staging PPA) and I have the same problem as Mark. EOG shows
> images like they are corrupted.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Tim  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 22/10/13 18:23, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>>
>>  Hi guys,
>>  I guess we should also raise a bug (if doesn't exist already) on EOG, as
>> for me too, it can't display images correctly.
>>
>> What version are you using? 3.10.0 here is working perfectly fine here.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>  romu
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Mark Blakeney <
>> mark.blake...@bullet-systems.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:01:04 +1100, Tim wrote:
>>> > Irrespective of eog and nautilus, gnome-control-center should not crash
>>> > when setting the background. I will push an updated 3.8.5 package and
>>> if
>>> > it still happens after that please do file a crash report with
>>> > backtrace.
>>>
>>>  Well done! I updated and now it works perfectly.
>>>
>>> In fact, I now see both the background and lock screen selections which
>>> I knew was part of gnome 3.10 but I had noticed only the background
>>> selection in the 0.5 sec flash before it crashed previously.
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Re: EOG can't display images

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3.10 also (Staging PPA) and I have the same problem as Mark. EOG shows
images like they are corrupted.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Tim  wrote:

>
> On 22/10/13 18:23, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>  Hi guys,
>  I guess we should also raise a bug (if doesn't exist already) on EOG, as
> for me too, it can't display images correctly.
>
> What version are you using? 3.10.0 here is working perfectly fine here.
>
> Tim
>
>
>  romu
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Mark Blakeney <
> mark.blake...@bullet-systems.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:01:04 +1100, Tim wrote:
>> > Irrespective of eog and nautilus, gnome-control-center should not crash
>> > when setting the background. I will push an updated 3.8.5 package and if
>> > it still happens after that please do file a crash report with
>> > backtrace.
>>
>>  Well done! I updated and now it works perfectly.
>>
>> In fact, I now see both the background and lock screen selections which
>> I knew was part of gnome 3.10 but I had noticed only the background
>> selection in the 0.5 sec flash before it crashed previously.
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Re: Screen dims during a video playback

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Totem.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Tim  wrote:

>  Video players should add an inhibitor via logind, I know alteast VLC
> does, and would assume totem would also. What player are you using?
>
>
> On 22/10/13 19:07, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>  Didn't try Joseph. That's a so basic feature that I didn't think I have
> to change some settings to see this fixed.
>
>  "Dim screen" is checked of course, that's absolutely normal, as it is
> normal the internals of the OS override this setting when playing a video.
>
>  So I may change the settings, but which one? and which value do I have
> to set?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Joseph Godino wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 09:25 +0200, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>> > That's the kind of bug you think it cannot re-appear, but yes, it
>> > can !
>> >
>> >
>> > So with UG 13.10 + Gnome3 Next + Gnome3 Staging : when I play a video,
>> > the screen dims after a while.
>>  What happens when you change the defaults for your screen saver? If you
>> are not interacting with the computer via the keyboard or mouse the
>> screen will co dark. I'm not an expert but I hope this helps.
>>  >
>> >
>> > Anyone to confirm?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > romu
>> >
>>
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Re: Screen dims during a video playback

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Didn't try Joseph. That's a so basic feature that I didn't think I have to
change some settings to see this fixed.

"Dim screen" is checked of course, that's absolutely normal, as it is
normal the internals of the OS override this setting when playing a video.

So I may change the settings, but which one? and which value do I have to
set?


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Joseph Godino  wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 09:25 +0200, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
> > That's the kind of bug you think it cannot re-appear, but yes, it
> > can !
> >
> >
> > So with UG 13.10 + Gnome3 Next + Gnome3 Staging : when I play a video,
> > the screen dims after a while.
> What happens when you change the defaults for your screen saver? If you
> are not interacting with the computer via the keyboard or mouse the
> screen will co dark. I'm not an expert but I hope this helps.
> >
> >
> > Anyone to confirm?
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > romu
> >
>
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Screen dims during a video playback

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That's the kind of bug you think it cannot re-appear, but yes, it can !

So with UG 13.10 + Gnome3 Next + Gnome3 Staging : when I play a video, the
screen dims after a while.

Anyone to confirm?

Thanks.

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Re: Can not change background

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Hi guys,
I guess we should also raise a bug (if doesn't exist already) on EOG, as
for me too, it can't display images correctly.

romu


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Mark Blakeney <
mark.blake...@bullet-systems.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:01:04 +1100, Tim wrote:
> > Irrespective of eog and nautilus, gnome-control-center should not crash
> > when setting the background. I will push an updated 3.8.5 package and if
> > it still happens after that please do file a crash report with
> > backtrace.
>
> Well done! I updated and now it works perfectly.
>
> In fact, I now see both the background and lock screen selections which
> I knew was part of gnome 3.10 but I had noticed only the background
> selection in the 0.5 sec flash before it crashed previously.
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Bug ?

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Hi,
I'm a facing an issue, could someone confirm:
1. Add a ppa to your system
2. Open the software-properties-gtk, the one where you can access the list
of added ppa
3. Select your just added ppa and click "Edit..."
4. Change Saucy by Raring
5. You're asked for your password, enter it, then click Valid
-> Saucy is not changed by Raring
6. Repeat steps 3 to 5
-> The "Software & Updates" window crashes.

When run from a terminal, I get the following trace:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
line 889, in on_edit_clicked
if dialog.run() == Gtk.ResponseType.OK:
  File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/DialogEdit.py", line
123, in run
index = self.sourceslist.list.index(self.source_entry)
ValueError: 
is not in list


Can someone confrm?

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Gnome 3.10 apps in Next ppa

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Hi,
Just wanna know if there is some roadmap somewhere about the integration of
Gnome 3.10 apps in the Gnome3-Next ppa?

I ask because I run the Gnome3-next ppa, and all core apps (Nautilus,
Gedit, Contacts...) are still in 3.8. Just the shell is 3.10.

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Some testing feedback with daily 2013-09-30 image

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Hi,
I was able to test the live daily of the 2013-09-30 from a USB key.
Unfortunately, as my internel line is down, I can't raise bug with apport.
However, I can do it manually (so without many technical details) but I
don't know if this is acceptable, let me know.

First topic: Booting in UEFI mode
-> Same problem as some weeks ago, there is a bad screen reshesh frequency
which makes the live CD unsable on Intel Graphics HD4000 (Ivy Bridge).

Second topic: Hardware keys
-> I do confirm all hardware keys work with this daily image (Power switch,
screen backlight, sound and keyboard backlight). All key actions display
the correct overlay widget on the screen as well. So this confirms there is
broken in the Gnome Next PPA. If I find the time, I'll do some testing by
purging the Next ppa from my system and check my assumption.

romu
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Re: Startup disk creator still very buggy

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Thanks Michael.

As my personal internet line is currently down, I burnt the USB key on
Windows with Rufus.

romu


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Michael Flaig  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> maybe this thread is interesting to you:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073
>
> btw. I use command line tool dd to write the iso to usb disk.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
> On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 22:14 +0200, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > While trying to burn a USB key with a dailu UG image, I just can say
> > the Startup disk creator is almost as buggy as it already was in
> > 13.04.
> >
> >
> > It's very very difficult to burn a USB key with this tool. I always
> > get "Disk creation failed". Noway to get more, even by lauching the
> > tool from a terminal.
> >
> >
> > Any way to diagnose?
> >
>
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Re: Reported bugs that need some attention and support

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For the first one, are you talking about the screen backlight or keyboard
backlight?

In my case (Dell XPS13), the screen backlight works but too slowly and
there is no widget displayed on the screen.

For the keyboard backlight, I don't remember.

As I already wrote in previous message, sound keys don't work anymore, and
neither power switch.

Huge regression in this overall area in my opinion. Tonight, I may try with
a daily image.


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Fran Dieguez wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've reported some bugs that need some support from users and devs. All of
> them are bugs found in Ubuntu 13.10 with all required PPAs to get GNOME
> 3.10.
>
> Brightness keyboard keys doesn't work in GNOME 3.10
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1232594
>
> Screen brightness goes to 0 after removing power cord
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1233675
>
> Unable to manage bluetooth devices form g-c-c
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1232600
>
> Unable to hide the menu bar in gnome-terminal
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1231347
>
> I'm trying to fix them by searching possible causes but I need some
> support.
>
> If you are affected to these bugs please click the "This bug affects me"
> link and write a comment in launchpad.
>
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Startup disk creator still very buggy

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Hi,
While trying to burn a USB key with a dailu UG image, I just can say the
Startup disk creator is almost as buggy as it already was in 13.04.

It's very very difficult to burn a USB key with this tool. I always get
"Disk creation failed". Noway to get more, even by lauching the tool from a
terminal.

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

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Ok I'll do with a live USB key.

I think this is probably the same kind of issue which has turned the power
switch undetected. I'll try asap and let you know.

romu


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> 13.10 Beta 1 (fresh install) + Gnome 3 Next only for me, 64-bit and daily
>> updates.
>>
>> Just updated right now, and nothing fixed.
>>
>>
> I think you are talking about an installed system while as part of our
> testing and to go the extra miles, I'd appreciate if you could try that wit
> the latest daily build with fresh new install.
>
> The most important part of testing is to test the installation and then
> check the system after being installed. While your issue is more about the
> system after installing it, which I understand but for the sake of helping,
> I am asking to try to install again using the daily build.
> In fact, you can go for: Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation and check
> whether this issue is happening or not.
>
> If this is too much to ask at the moment, and since you updated the system
> and the problem is still there, I guess we can report a bug BUT to be in
> the safe side and double check before filing a bug, Try Ubuntu GNOME
> without installation will do the trick.
>
> By the way, I am not affected with this. I am testing Ubuntu GNOME Saucy
> on my main machine (which is not for testing - sigh) : Lenovo G570 Core i5
> 2nd generation and 4GB RAM. Tested Beta 2 amd64 and will also try the
> latest daily soon :)
>
> Thanks a lot.
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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Romuald TISSERAND]

13.10 Beta 1 (fresh install) + Gnome 3 Next only for me, 64-bit and daily
updates.

Just updated right now, and nothing fixed.


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Manuel Cuadra wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Just to make sure ALL of us are on the same page :D
>> >
>> > Are you guys testing with PPA installed? or without?
>> >
>> > Is this issue happening with the standard installation (without any
>> PPA)?
>> > or it happens after installing the PPA?
>> >
>>
>> This happens on Stock Beta 2 13.10
>
>
> Can we try that on the latest daily (30-09-2013) ?
>
> On what version? i386? amd64?
>
>
>
>> , and also updating with the PPA's
>> gnome3 and gnome3-next
>>
>
> Okay, so it is happening with and without the PPA. Thanks :)
>
>
>>
>> But it is fixed in gnome3-staging it's not passed to the gnome-next
>> yet, the problem seems to be related to the gnome-control-center
>> package
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>
> Thank you for your explanation - much appreciated :)
>
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No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
I'm sure this was operating on the Beta 1 + Gnome 3.8. I can't say if it
comes from Gnome 3.10 or just from recent updates, but on my Dell XPS13,
the multimedias almost don't work anymore.

- Sound keys don't work at all
- Almost because keyboard and screen backlight work, but...read below
- The screen backlight slider in 3.10 system menu doesn't work
- There is no widget displayed when I activate some of these keys


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Re: Bug found on Dell XPS13

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Thanks Fran. It's already "Interactive".


On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Fran Dieguez wrote:

> On dom 29 sep 2013 11:21:38 CEST, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> With UG 13.10, the physical switch on/off button is not detected by
>> Gnome anymore. This worked flawlessly on UG 13.04. This regressions
>> doesn't come from the Ubuntu baseline but from the Gnome interface.
>>
>> Because, if I open a console with Ctrl+F2, log in, then press the
>> switch off button, then the PC shuts down. This is Gnome which doesn't
>> detect this button anymore.
>>
>> I would like to know what's the best package to raise a bug on?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> romu
>>
>>
>>
> Just test this:
>
> - Open gnome-tweak-tool
> - Go to the 'Shell' section
> - Check in the 'Power button action' what you have selected. (Default
> should be 'Interactive')
>
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Bug found on Dell XPS13

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Hi,
With UG 13.10, the physical switch on/off button is not detected by Gnome
anymore. This worked flawlessly on UG 13.04. This regressions doesn't come
from the Ubuntu baseline but from the Gnome interface.

Because, if I open a console with Ctrl+F2, log in, then press the switch
off button, then the PC shuts down. This is Gnome which doesn't detect this
button anymore.

I would like to know what's the best package to raise a bug on?

Thanks.

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Ubiquity sequence wrong ordered

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Hi,
As I've installed UG 13.10 few times now, I see the Ubiquity sequence is
not good at all. I've raised a bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231892

Feel free to comment.

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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Sorry for the mistake. In 12.04 you were be able to install on non PAE CPU
with the alternate CD. Didn't know this has changed.

romu


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> In this case, you need to install with the Alternate CD.
>>
>
> Actually, this is not correct. The Alternate ISO has the same Kernel of
> the Desktop ISO. The main difference is the Alternate has NO fancy GUI
> installer but rather a Text-Based Installer for special cases like LOW RAM:
>
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150202/difference-between-live-cd-and-alternate-cd
>
> As I have mentioned on my previous email, Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 and 13.10
> both don't really support NON-PAE CPUs and therefore, can not be installed
> on a machine with NON-PAE CPU.
>
> Thank you!
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Ok.

Regarding the ppas, your message is not in the same line as Tim previously
wrote. When the Next ppa was created, the message sent by Tim was:
- gnome3 for 3.8
- next for 3.10
- staging for unstable

And as Gnome 3.8 is the baseline of UG 13.10, I don't really understand why
we should add the Gnome3 ppa with 13.10. Could you please clarify?

Thanks.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:14 AM, HadiM  wrote:

> If you use next ppa, don't forget to also use gnome3 "normal" ppa. Some
> applications are still with 3.8. UG developers are working on it. You can
> look at staging ppa to see what are the next applications coming soon to
> next. For example, gnome tweak tool is still in 3.8 but in 3.10 in staging
> so I guess 3.10 will come soon in next.
>
>
> --
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>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> It helped a bit HadiM, thanks. I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
>> re-installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package. I'm back in 3.8.
>>
>> I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell
>> 3.10.0.1, great!
>>
>> Last annoying point is applications are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
>> for instance), new version haven't been integrated into the Next ppa yet?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM  wrote:
>>
>>> First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
>>> yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
>>> ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
>>> apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
>>> ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.
>>>
>>> In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3 and
>>> gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user, except if
>>> you know exactly what you're doing.
>>>
>>> Hope it helps
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next
>>>> and gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
>>>> date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.
>>>>
>>>> Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
>>>> should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
>>>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> romu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next
>>>>> ppa.
>>>>>
>>>>> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
>>>>> rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>>>>>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
>>>>>> Mutter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with
>>>>>> the staging ppa...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> romu
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

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It helped a bit HadiM, thanks. I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
re-installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package. I'm back in 3.8.

I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell 3.10.0.1,
great!

Last annoying point is applications are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
for instance), new version haven't been integrated into the Next ppa yet?




On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM  wrote:

> First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
> yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
> ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
> apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
> ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.
>
> In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3 and
> gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user, except if
> you know exactly what you're doing.
>
> Hope it helps
>
> Bye
>
>
> --
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>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next and
>> gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
>> date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.
>>
>> Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
>> should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> romu
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:
>>
>>> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next ppa.
>>>
>>> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> HadiM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
>>> rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>>>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
>>>> Mutter.
>>>>
>>>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with
>>>> the staging ppa...
>>>>
>>>> romu
>>>>
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

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Hi,
This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next and
gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.

Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

romu


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:

> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next ppa.
>
> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>
>
> --
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>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>
>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
>> Mutter.
>>
>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with the
>> staging ppa...
>>
>> romu
>>
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Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

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I'm using only the next ppa.

Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
Mutter.

But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with the
staging ppa...

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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

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In this case, you need to install with the Alternate CD. But I don't know
if it has been released for the Beta.


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:35 AM, george fragos wrote:

> I'm using Testdrive to test "Ubuntu Desktop-(saucy)", Beta 2, but when I
> press Launch after the sync completes KVM (Qemu) goes to a halt and
> Virtualbox says "This kernel requires the following features not present on
> the CPU: pae. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your
> CPU." Since the CPU does not support PAE kernels, is it possible to install
> a non-PAE kernel of Saucy Beta 2 and test it through Testdrive...? Any
> other ideas?
>
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Regression in UG 13.10 + Gnome 3.10

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
Some days ago, I created a new bug report (
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gthumb/+bug/1227838) but was not
really sure if it came from Gnome 3.10 or other update.

I had to re-install UG 13.10 (with Gnome 3.8), gThumb works well. If I add
the Gnome3-next ppa, then the bug appears and make gThumb unusable. I
removed the Gnome3-next ppa with ppa-purge, and gThumb is back!

So I do confirm the bug report validity. And as I use gThumb pretty often,
Gnome 3.10 is not for me as soon as this is not fixed.

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13.10 Beta + Next+Staging -> Can't disable a ppa in the GUI

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Pretty all in the title.
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Re: Gnome3-next PPA update

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Thanks Tim,
For those who don't want to ue unstable version, does this announce mean we
can remove the staging ppa?

romu


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Tim  wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
> The gnome3-next PPA is now ready for standalone use. Right now you will
> find the release candidate of gnome-shell 3.10, but more will be added in
> the coming weeks.
>
> If you are using gnome3-staging PPA you ***must also add gnome3-next
> PPA*, since it will provide required dependencies which I will be
> deleting from staging very soon!
>
> Tim
>
>
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Chat accounts

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
Just upgraded to gnome3-staging. I see there is no way to chat (Google and
Facebook in my case) is related Jabber accounts are not explicitely added
to GOA.

Is this normal?

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Re: [Artwork] Ubiquity Slideshow discussion.

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Hi,
This slideshow doesn't show up in Firefox.

romu


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Jeremy Bicha  wrote:

> On 19 September 2013 03:05, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> wrote:
> > StartUbuntu is not a personal project that attacks Microsoft, that is
> > totally wrong. StartUbuntu is a huge community project that aims to offer
> > Linux as the best solution to Windows XP Users and also Windows 7 and 8.
> I
> > see no good reason to disagree with that :)
> >
> > It is an indirect way to say that Ubuntu GNOME is the best option if you
> > have a machine that can handle it. And, it won't bite if we have more
> > slides. The installation process is going to take time and reading
> > interesting stuff won't harm ;)
> >
> > I fail to understand why you did not like it?
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
> >
> > See the popularity that StartUbuntu is having and there are nearly 40
> > members who are so excited and guess what? I have asked Lubuntu guys to
> > include that slide as well :)
> >
> > NO ONE is attacking Microsoft. You can do a re-wording if you think it is
> > too harsh but do not remove that, please!
>
> Unfortunately, we are very much at the last minute and I feel the
> Start Ubuntu advertisement in the slideshow is unnecessary. Since we
> disagree and the slide is controversial and had not been discussed
> before now, the safe and smart thing to do is to not try to push it
> into Ubuntu 13.10.
>
> I apologize that I don't really have the time to discuss this at
> length right now.
>
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Re: UG doesn't start anymore after upgrade

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Thanks Tim,
This morning I was able to start Ubuntu in a pretty unstable manner. But I
could install the staging PPA, and now, eveything is fine...with some
issues (emails to follow).

romu


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Tim  wrote:

>
> On 19/09/13 06:32, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>Hi,
>  I'm writing from my Windows double boot because my UG is in trouble.
>
>  Tonight, UG asked me to do a partial upgrade. But I saw it wanted to
> removed gdm and gnome-shell without replacing them, so I quit the GUI.
>
>  In a terminal, I ran "sudo apt-get upgrade" (not dist-upgrade) which
> preserved gdm and gnome-shell. Finally, I rebooted the PC and...UG doesn't
> work anymore.
>
>  I get the boot screen, I can choose Ubuntu, I see the UG grey splash
> screen but very very quickly. Then the screen becomes dark with a white,
> fixed, cursor in the top left corner.
>
>  I run 13.10 Beta 64 + Gnome-next ppa.
>
> gnome3-next is not quite ready to be used standalone.You should also use
> gnome3-staging for the time being
>
>
> Any help? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Issue with the notification area

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Thanks a lot Phil, much much better!


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Phil Wyett  wrote:

> On Sat, 2013-09-14 at 09:41 +0200, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can give an update after the Tim advices.
> >
> >
> > Finally, trigger the notification with the touchpad is pretty easy. I
> > put the cursor few cms above the notification area, and with a good
> > finger movement, no problem, it's 100% successfull. With the mouse,
> > it's more problematic even if I know now what I must do. I can try 20
> > times, and won't get even 1 success. I have to train myself a bit more
> > I guess, but it's a bit difficult.
> >
> > romu
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I have never had an issue with the top left hot corner, but I did have
> as you described have issues with popping up the bottom notification
> area using a mouse on both desktops and laptops.
>
> Quick fix for this I use is to turn off 'vblank'. Create a file in your
> HOME folder called .drirc and insert the text below.
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> All seems to get a little easier with the notification area after.
>
> Regards
>
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UG doesn't start anymore after upgrade

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Hi,
I'm writing from my Windows double boot because my UG is in trouble.

Tonight, UG asked me to do a partial upgrade. But I saw it wanted to
removed gdm and gnome-shell without replacing them, so I quit the GUI.

In a terminal, I ran "sudo apt-get upgrade" (not dist-upgrade) which
preserved gdm and gnome-shell. Finally, I rebooted the PC and...UG doesn't
work anymore.

I get the boot screen, I can choose Ubuntu, I see the UG grey splash screen
but very very quickly. Then the screen becomes dark with a white, fixed,
cursor in the top left corner.

I run 13.10 Beta 64 + Gnome-next ppa.

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Re: Issue with the notification area

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Hi,
I can give an update after the Tim advices.

Finally, trigger the notification with the touchpad is pretty easy. I put
the cursor few cms above the notification area, and with a good finger
movement, no problem, it's 100% successfull. With the mouse, it's more
problematic even if I know now what I must do. I can try 20 times, and
won't get even 1 success. I have to train myself a bit more I guess, but
it's a bit difficult.

romu


On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Sam Bull  wrote:

> On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 23:41 +0200, Michael Flaig wrote:
> > There was a change to the notification bar but I thought it happened
> > around 3.6 or 3.8 already, but the Ubuntu Xserver was missing a patch
> > needed for the new trigger method, so the old method was used on Ubuntu
> > anyway. But don't ask me what the difference between new and old
> > behaviour is - I can't tell.
>
> The activities corner was triggered whenever the cursor touched it,
> while the message tray was triggered when the cursor was hovered against
> the edge for a couple of seconds.
>
> Now, it should use pressure to trigger. Which means the activity corner
> should not be activated accidentally so much, while the message tray can
> be opened without a delay.
>
> I've not tried it out myself yet though, I'll just wait till 13.10 is
> released.
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Issue with folder properties from mounted shares

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
I've found an issue in the beta.

1. Connect a share on your network which contains few folders
2. With nautilus, go on this share
3. On the right pane, select all the child folders
4. Right click on a child folder and then "Properties"
-> Nautilus continously loops through the childs files and folders counters
instead of providing the golbal information. This works on 13.04.

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Re: Issue with the notification area

[Romuald TISSERAND]

The problem of making such thing to trigger with a bit of speed, is it
makes things very difficult if you use a touchpad. I'll try to compare with
a mouse and the touchpad tonight.

Thanks for the tip about FB.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Tim  wrote:

>
> On 11/09/13 17:20, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>  Found a serious issue on the 13.10 Beta: it's extremely difficult to get
> the notification area visible. Have things changed in these components?
>
> +M or drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen with a bit of
> speed!
>
>
>  I also suspect an issue with the Facebook account not usable with
> Empathy, but I'll tell more asap.
>
> This is a known issue
>
>
> romu
>
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Issue with the notification area

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
Found a serious issue on the 13.10 Beta: it's extremely difficult to get
the notification area visible. Have things changed in these components?

I also suspect an issue with the Facebook account not usable with Empathy,
but I'll tell more asap.

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Re: Status of installation in UEFI mode

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Done. Just tried with the daily Ubuntu image. Same issue, correct in Bios
mode, issue with screen refresh frequency in UEFI.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Tim  wrote:

>
> On 10/09/13 18:44, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
> As Ubuntu it self has not yet been released in Beta, I'll try with another
> flavor (Xubuntu?) asap. Probably tonight.
>
> In general you should be using the Daily images for all testing, since
> lots of fixes would have landed even since beta 1 was released.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Tim  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/09/13 18:21, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>  I finally managed to install 13.10 Beta in UEFI mode. I have some good
>>> news and a bad news.
>>>
>>>  I'm still interested to hear if you can reproduce it with the standard
>>> Ubuntu Images, you will get a lot more support then, since none of us even
>>> have UEFI machines.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
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Re: Status of installation in UEFI mode

[Romuald TISSERAND]

As Ubuntu it self has not yet been released in Beta, I'll try with another
flavor (Xubuntu?) asap. Probably tonight.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Tim  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10/09/13 18:21, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>  I finally managed to install 13.10 Beta in UEFI mode. I have some good
>> news and a bad news.
>>
>> I'm still interested to hear if you can reproduce it with the standard
>> Ubuntu Images, you will get a lot more support then, since none of us even
>> have UEFI machines.
>>
>
> +1
>
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Status of installation in UEFI mode

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
I finally managed to install 13.10 Beta in UEFI mode. I have some good news
and a bad news.

The bad news: the screen refresh frequency is crapped when the PC is
started in UEFI, as I already wrote in my previous emails. Everything seems
to work (was able to trigger some menu items to properly shutting down the
computer), but it totally not usable.

The good news:
- it works when the PC is started in Bios mode, so I can use 13.10 and my
Windows 8 double boot, really nice.
- as it starts in both Bios and EFI modes, I can make some testing and see
what happens with the updates regarding this issue.

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Re: Regression while booting from USB key in UEFI mode

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Just see that the Ubuntu 13.10 Beta has not been released yet, so I can't
check.

I'll give a last try to UEFI mode tonight, and if it fails, I switch back
to Bios.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> I'll do Tim, thanks. Any way to run Ubiquity in console mode? Like the old
> alternate CDs.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tim  wrote:
>
>>  Hey Romu,
>>   Can you test with a normal Ubuntu image. This doesn't sound like
>> something that would be specific to Ubuntu GNOME.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 09/09/13 04:33, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>>
>>   Hi,
>>  I do confirm a regression while booting UG from an USB key in UEFI mode.
>>
>>  There is a minor issue for both 13.04 and 13.10 : The screen is very
>> very dark, it's difficult to see the GUI.
>>
>>  The regression affects the graphics, my PC runs an Intel HD4000, the UG
>> 13.04 Live starts correctly. On 13.10, the screen refresh frequency is not
>> correctly managed, so I have several UG screens displayed at the same time
>> on my LCD panel. So I'm not able to install UG.
>>
>>  romu
>>
>>
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Re: Regression while booting from USB key in UEFI mode

[Romuald TISSERAND]

I'll do Tim, thanks. Any way to run Ubiquity in console mode? Like the old
alternate CDs.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tim  wrote:

>  Hey Romu,
>   Can you test with a normal Ubuntu image. This doesn't sound like
> something that would be specific to Ubuntu GNOME.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 09/09/13 04:33, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>  I do confirm a regression while booting UG from an USB key in UEFI mode.
>
>  There is a minor issue for both 13.04 and 13.10 : The screen is very very
> dark, it's difficult to see the GUI.
>
>  The regression affects the graphics, my PC runs an Intel HD4000, the UG
> 13.04 Live starts correctly. On 13.10, the screen refresh frequency is not
> correctly managed, so I have several UG screens displayed at the same time
> on my LCD panel. So I'm not able to install UG.
>
>  romu
>
>
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Regression while booting from USB key in UEFI mode

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
I do confirm a regression while booting UG from an USB key in UEFI mode.

There is a minor issue for both 13.04 and 13.10 : The screen is very very
dark, it's difficult to see the GUI.

The regression affects the graphics, my PC runs an Intel HD4000, the UG
13.04 Live starts correctly. On 13.10, the screen refresh frequency is not
correctly managed, so I have several UG screens displayed at the same time
on my LCD panel. So I'm not able to install UG.

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Re: Issue with the Beta 1 on a Dell XPS13 + UEFI + Win8

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Thanks for your answer.

Yes, in Legavy Bios mode, the Live CD starts well. In UEFI mode, it starts,
but the screen resolution and refresh frequency are obviously wrong. So the
screen is dark, and there are several UG screens in tiles on my LCD panel.

For the confusing issue, steps are:
1. Starts with "Install Ubuntu Gnome" (so NOT the "Try...")
2. Once the first screen is displayed, click on the top right Wireless
indicator
3. Asked for a password enter it + enter
-> Nothing happens, the network is not joined, there is no message about a
wrong password or something similar.

Workaround : start the Ubiquity installation process and wait for the
wireless connection page.

Also, starting in Bios mode makes Ubiquity doesn't see the Windows
partition. So there is no option to "Install alongside Windows". The only
way to to set "Something else".

So my question is: can I install UG on my free space in Bios mode, and then
switch my computer to use UEFI?

Thanks.

romu



On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:
>
>> Hi, as I wrote on G+,
>>
>
> Hello and welcome to Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List :)
> I'm so glad that you joined and took my advice to send to the list rather
> than post on Google+ ;)
>
>
>
>> I'm facing lot of issues with this beta.
>>
>
> Let's go one by one :)
>
>
>
>> I need to make a double boot with Windows 8. And as I read UEFI is now
>> well supported by Ubuntu, I setup my PC Bios to use UEFI (SecureBoot is
>> disabled).
>>
>
> Because I don't have such machine (I'm a huge fan of old machines
> actually), all what I can offer regarding this is:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
>
>
>
>> I used the Rufus software to burn a UEFI compliant USB Key with UG 13.10
>> Beta.
>>
>> First issue : the USB key starts in UEFI but the display (HD4000) is not
>> correctly managed, then the PC is not usable. Bios setup to start in Legacy
>> mode, the LiveCD starts well.
>>
>
> So, are you saying with Legacy Mode, everything seems okay?
>
>
> Once started (so in Legacy mode), if I double click on "Install Ubuntu
>> Gnome", nothing happens at all. I don't know the command to launch it in a
>> terminal.
>>
>
> Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation > Install Ubuntu GNOME from the Live
> Desktop >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1217177
>
> It is a known bug that we hopefully can fix - problem is, the developers
> can't re-produce it while others can!
>
>
> Another issue: I started directly to "Install Ubuntu Gnome". The GUI
>> starts well, but I connect to my Wifi network. If I click on its name,
>> nothing happens. This works well if I just start on the LiveCD. -> I
>> restarted the process and was able to launch correctly Ubiquity but
>> directly by choosing "Directly install..." at boot.
>>
>
> This is so confusing!
> Can you please, re-explain?
>
> Are you saying everything will be fine when:
> Boot from your Live Media > Choose "Install Ubuntu GNOME" from the Menu >
> carry on with the installation?
>
>
> As the SSD is UEFI, Ubuntu doesn't detect Windows, I guess this is normal,
>> but any documentation pointer to deal with would be great.
>>
>> romu
>>
>>
> Link posted above :)
>
> www.googlubuntu.com
> can be handy too ;)
>
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Issue with the Beta 1 on a Dell XPS13 + UEFI + Win8

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi, as I wrote on G+, I'm facing lot of issues with this beta.
I need to make a double boot with Windows 8. And as I read UEFI is now well
supported by Ubuntu, I setup my PC Bios to use UEFI (SecureBoot is
disabled).

I used the Rufus software to burn a UEFI compliant USB Key with UG 13.10
Beta.

First issue : the USB key starts in UEFI but the display (HD4000) is not
correctly managed, then the PC is not usable. Bios setup to start in Legacy
mode, the LiveCD starts well.

Once started (so in Legacy mode), if I double click on "Install Ubuntu
Gnome", nothing happens at all. I don't know the command to launch it in a
terminal.

Another issue: I started directly to "Install Ubuntu Gnome". The GUI starts
well, but I connect to my Wifi network. If I click on its name, nothing
happens. This works well if I just start on the LiveCD. -> I restarted the
process and was able to launch correctly Ubiquity but directly by choosing
"Directly install..." at boot.

As the SSD is UEFI, Ubuntu doesn't detect Windows, I guess this is normal,
but any documentation pointer to deal with would be great.

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