Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Keith I Myers]

Good Morning All,
It has been a while since I commented but Mark Shuttleworth posted the
following on Google Plus this morning that should shed some light on what
we can expect.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+MarkShuttleworthCanonical/posts/7LYubpaHUHH

TL;DR - The Ubuntu Gnome community will live on and it looks like focus
will shift to Ubuntu Gnome.

Hopefully this helps answer a few questions

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Alfredo Hernández 
wrote:

> That's actually a good point. Shame it's so difficult to get real values of
> our user base to get proper statistics.
>
> On 6 Apr 2017 01:51, "Emblem Parade"  wrote:
>
> > I think it's far too early to guess just how Ubuntu will end up packaging
> > GNOME. Some options/questions:
> >
> > 1) plain vanilla defaults?
> > 2) with a special Ambience theme?
> > 3) with special extensions?
> > 4) Wayland as the default session?
> >
> > Depending on these choices, Ubuntu GNOME may or may not be worth pursuing
> > as a separate flavor.
> >
> > All I know for sure is that interest in the Ubuntu GNOME flavor is going
> to
> > skyrocket as many users will prefer to switch ASAP rather than stay with
> a
> > UI that they know is going to be phased out. :)
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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Alfredo Hernández]

That's actually a good point. Shame it's so difficult to get real values of
our user base to get proper statistics.

On 6 Apr 2017 01:51, "Emblem Parade"  wrote:

> I think it's far too early to guess just how Ubuntu will end up packaging
> GNOME. Some options/questions:
>
> 1) plain vanilla defaults?
> 2) with a special Ambience theme?
> 3) with special extensions?
> 4) Wayland as the default session?
>
> Depending on these choices, Ubuntu GNOME may or may not be worth pursuing
> as a separate flavor.
>
> All I know for sure is that interest in the Ubuntu GNOME flavor is going to
> skyrocket as many users will prefer to switch ASAP rather than stay with a
> UI that they know is going to be phased out. :)
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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Emblem Parade]

I think it's far too early to guess just how Ubuntu will end up packaging
GNOME. Some options/questions:

1) plain vanilla defaults?
2) with a special Ambience theme?
3) with special extensions?
4) Wayland as the default session?

Depending on these choices, Ubuntu GNOME may or may not be worth pursuing
as a separate flavor.

All I know for sure is that interest in the Ubuntu GNOME flavor is going to
skyrocket as many users will prefer to switch ASAP rather than stay with a
UI that they know is going to be phased out. :)
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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Jeremy Bicha]

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Julien Olivier  wrote:
> I personnally love the fact that Ubuntu GNOME is almost the upstream
> GNOME, and not a custom version with lots of extensions and
> modifications. I really fear that Canonical will not settle on upstream
> GNOME, at all. So, in this case, we might still need Ubuntu GNOME.

Before there was Ubuntu GNOME, there was

https://piware.de/2009/02/the-stracciatella-gnome-session/

No matter what happens, there will still be a need to package the
parts of GNOME that Canonical isn't focused on.

Jeremy

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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Pander]

On 2017-04-06 00:15, Julien Olivier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I personnally love the fact that Ubuntu GNOME is almost the upstream
> GNOME, and not a custom version with lots of extensions and
> modifications. I really fear that Canonical will not settle on upstream
> GNOME, at all. So, in this case, we might still need Ubuntu GNOME.
> 
> By the way, that might even be bad news for Ubuntu GNOME because when
> Canonical moved away from GNOME, they also stopped breaking GNOME, but
> they might go back to their bad habits, and it might become very hard
> to have a proper Ubuntu GNOME without their patches... I hope I'm wrong
> though.

I would advise to be watchful for dependencies that might play into
Canonical's agenda. Package dependencies from Ubuntu Desktop, Unity and
more that, even if it is GNOME, are going to force users certain
packages on their system.

Would be _funny_ if both co-exist and Ubuntu GNOME is better than Ubuntu
default out-of-the-box. When was their release? April 1st, 2018? ;-)

> Le mercredi 05 avril 2017 à 15:24 -0400, Paul Smith a écrit :
>> So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu
>> 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just
>> be Ubuntu?
>>
>> Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing
>> the question out into the universe...
>>
>> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
>>
>>


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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Julien Olivier]

Hi,

I personnally love the fact that Ubuntu GNOME is almost the upstream
GNOME, and not a custom version with lots of extensions and
modifications. I really fear that Canonical will not settle on upstream
GNOME, at all. So, in this case, we might still need Ubuntu GNOME.

By the way, that might even be bad news for Ubuntu GNOME because when
Canonical moved away from GNOME, they also stopped breaking GNOME, but
they might go back to their bad habits, and it might become very hard
to have a proper Ubuntu GNOME without their patches... I hope I'm wrong
though.

Le mercredi 05 avril 2017 à 15:24 -0400, Paul Smith a écrit :
> So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu
> 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just
> be Ubuntu?
> 
> Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing
> the question out into the universe...
> 
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
> 
> 
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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Nikita Yerenkov-Scott]

I wonder what will happen to the existing team?

On 5 April 2017 at 21:06, Bernard Tremblay 
wrote:

> It looks like that.   Ubuntu 18.04 desktop will be gnome according to Mark
> Shuttleworth.   Is that a "late april's fool" ??? or is it serious ???
>
> 2017-04-05 15:24 GMT-04:00 Paul Smith :
>
> > So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu
> > 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just
> > be Ubuntu?
> >
> > Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing
> > the question out into the universe...
> >
> > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-
> > cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
> >
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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Bernard Tremblay]

It looks like that.   Ubuntu 18.04 desktop will be gnome according to Mark
Shuttleworth.   Is that a "late april's fool" ??? or is it serious ???

2017-04-05 15:24 GMT-04:00 Paul Smith :

> So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu
> 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just
> be Ubuntu?
>
> Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing
> the question out into the universe...
>
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-
> cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
>
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Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Jeremy Bicha]

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
> So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu
> 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just
> be Ubuntu?

I will be honest and clear: I don't know.

But I do know that we have a great Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 release coming next week!

Now is a good time to test and report bugs that you find!

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha

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18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?

[Paul Smith]

So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu
18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just
be Ubuntu?

Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing
the question out into the universe...

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/


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