Re: Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List is not configured correctly (was: Re: Feedback Time)

2015-06-25 Thread Patrik Bubák
e.g. when I want to reply directly to the mailing list via the message's 
window, there used to be a button Reply to this list, but it cannot be 
clicked.




Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the Ice 
Cream Principle. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one condition: they 
all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be chocolate or 
vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's cool or interesting, 
they agree on what's easy to agree on.




 Original Message 

Subject: Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List is not configured correctly (was: Re: 
Feedback Time)

Time (GMT): Jun 25 2015 11:20:17

From: amjja...@gnome.org

To: bub...@protonmail.ch, dark...@fastmail.fm

CC: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com




Hi,






On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Patrik Bubák bub...@protonmail.ch wrote:


I too can confirm, that the list is not configured to be replied to. I've 
noticed this a long time ago both via Thunderbird and Evolution.



If truth to be told, I am not sure what you guys are talking about?



Anyway, I have partial access to the mailing list. I believe Tim has the full 
access to it.



I am including Tim so hopefully he could share some information in this regard 
but again, for me, I am not sure what is the deal here?!



As I have mentioned before, I am having this issue (duplicate) only on this 
list and only with one sender. Everyone else and every other list are all okay.



Thanks!











Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the Ice 
Cream Principle. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one condition: they 
all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be chocolate or 
vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's cool or interesting, 
they agree on what's easy to agree on.




 Original Message 

Subject: Re: Feedback Time




Time (GMT): Jun 25 2015 11:00:27

From: informat...@actiu.net

To: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com



Ali,

I suppose you haven't reveived duplicated this post (and previous one),

because I've removed your e-mail address from recipients after my Reply

all.

List is not configured to reply to the list, and doesn't insert RFC2369

headers such as List-Post.

If I receive everyone's post in list (including not addressed to me),

this means I'm subscribed to it.



About survey:

I still see a login filter when trying to enter to Survey with the link

published at:

https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time/

At this Google wall I find other links to they harvest my personal data

and to agree collecting all data about communications with my devices

and computers.

I use GNU/Linux concerned about my freedom, and I tell others about free

software including this matter (contrary to Google's policy).



If you send me an attachment with the Survey, I'll be very happy to fill

it and make this my small contribution to the project.



I believe that talking this question in the list can be useful to

provide other criteria.





El 25/06/15 a les 11:42, Ali/amjjawad ha escrit:

 Hi,



 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Narcis Garcia informat...@actiu.net

 mailto:informat...@actiu.net wrote:



 This mailing list is not properly configured, and it's easier [Reply

 all] than other reply options in mail client.





 With all due respect, I've been around for many years on many different

 mailing lists and IIRC, this is the first time I receive duplicate

 emails from the same sender and it happens that you're the only one on

 Ubuntu GNOME mailing list so, I don't think the mailing list has a

 problem, AFAIK.



 Are you 100% sure you have subscribed to the mailing list?!



 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#General_Mailing_List



 I am using Gmail web interface. I am not blaming you or complaining but

 I was just wondering why you're the only one I receive duplicate emails

 from?!









 I repeat:

 I'm not friend/customer/user of Google.





 That is your choice and I respect it but I am really sorry, I have no

 time to waste on finding other alternatives at the moment. Maybe with

 the next survey ;)

 Beside, you're the only one who is complaining :)



 44 responses so far :)



 I made your life easier already:

 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-June/003130.html



 You can *ALWAYS* write to us and send your feedback here, on this

 mailing list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs and/or

 *FEEL FREE to contact me* :)





 If you're not a friend of Google, then you can send your feedback about

 Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS and 15.04 here on this mailing list by starting a

 new thread.



 I have made a copy of the survey and I removed the option that asks the

 user to login in order to do the survey. If you wish, I can send you

 only that copy so that you won't miss the survey. As long as you

 replied, it means you do care about sharing your opinion and I am

Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List is not configured correctly (was: Re: Feedback Time)

2015-06-25 Thread Ali/amjjawad
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Patrik Bubák bub...@protonmail.ch wrote:

 I too can confirm, that the list is not configured to be replied to. I've
 noticed this a long time ago both via Thunderbird and Evolution.


If truth to be told, I am not sure what you guys are talking about?

Anyway, I have partial access to the mailing list. I believe Tim has the
full access to it.

I am including Tim so hopefully he could share some information in this
regard but again, for me, I am not sure what is the deal here?!

As I have mentioned before, I am having this issue (duplicate) only on this
list and only with one sender. Everyone else and every other list are all
okay.

Thanks!




 Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the *Ice
 Cream Principle*. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one condition:
 they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be
 chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's
 cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Feedback Time
 Time (GMT): Jun 25 2015 11:00:27
 From: informat...@actiu.net
 To: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com

 Ali,
 I suppose you haven't reveived duplicated this post (and previous one),
 because I've removed your e-mail address from recipients after my Reply
 all.
 List is not configured to reply to the list, and doesn't insert RFC2369
 headers such as List-Post.
 If I receive everyone's post in list (including not addressed to me),
 this means I'm subscribed to it.

 About survey:
 I still see a login filter when trying to enter to Survey with the link
 published at:
 https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time/
 At this Google wall I find other links to they harvest my personal data
 and to agree collecting all data about communications with my devices
 and computers.
 I use GNU/Linux concerned about my freedom, and I tell others about free
 software including this matter (contrary to Google's policy).

 If you send me an attachment with the Survey, I'll be very happy to fill
 it and make this my small contribution to the project.

 I believe that talking this question in the list can be useful to
 provide other criteria.


 El 25/06/15 a les 11:42, Ali/amjjawad ha escrit:
  Hi,
 
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Narcis Garcia informat...@actiu.net
  mailto:informat...@actiu.net wrote:
 
  This mailing list is not properly configured, and it's easier [Reply
  all] than other reply options in mail client.
 
 
  With all due respect, I've been around for many years on many different
  mailing lists and IIRC, this is the first time I receive duplicate
  emails from the same sender and it happens that you're the only one on
  Ubuntu GNOME mailing list so, I don't think the mailing list has a
  problem, AFAIK.
 
  Are you 100% sure you have subscribed to the mailing list?!
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#General_Mailing_List
 
  I am using Gmail web interface. I am not blaming you or complaining but
  I was just wondering why you're the only one I receive duplicate emails
  from?!
 
 
 
 
  I repeat:
  I'm not friend/customer/user of Google.
 
 
  That is your choice and I respect it but I am really sorry, I have no
  time to waste on finding other alternatives at the moment. Maybe with
  the next survey ;)
  Beside, you're the only one who is complaining :)
 
  44 responses so far :)
 
  I made your life easier already:
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-June/003130.html
 
  You can *ALWAYS* write to us and send your feedback here, on this
  mailing list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs and/or
  *FEEL FREE to contact me* :)
 
 
  If you're not a friend of Google, then you can send your feedback about
  Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS and 15.04 here on this mailing list by starting a
  new thread.
 
  I have made a copy of the survey and I removed the option that asks the
  user to login in order to do the survey. If you wish, I can send you
  only that copy so that you won't miss the survey. As long as you
  replied, it means you do care about sharing your opinion and I am
  interested to learn from your experience and how it was with Ubuntu
 GNOME :)
 
  Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
  El 25/06/15 a les 08:56, Ali/amjjawad ha escrit:
   Hi,
  
   On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Narcis Garcia informat...@actiu.net
 mailto:informat...@actiu.net
   mailto:informat...@actiu.net mailto:informat...@actiu.net wrote:
  
   PRIVATE SURVEY??!!
  
  
   Hold your horses ;)
  
  
  
   This is the first and big problem I've found.
   I'm not friend/customer/user of Google.
  
  
   Please, do check the attached screenshot.
   I had to do that so each and very one vote or do the survey ONLY once!
  
   I am NOT interested with spam nor spammers. I do need actual and real
 data.
  
   You just need to sign it with your google account. Unless you don't
 have
   google account, that is different story.