Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Languages on Ubuntu

2010-05-25 Thread Narendra Diwate
@Ram: Thanks a ton. That was helpfull. How do we type in Indic Languages on
a standard keyboard. Do we need to use a overlay on the keyboard to show the
various charecters or any other way.

Also whats SCIM, IBUS etc ?

Regards

Narendra Diwate




On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 23:12, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Narendra Diwate
 narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:
  The posts over the past few days and a TV advert for the Indian version
 of
  Linux named BOSS have prompted me to write this query.
 
 BOSS has been around for some time its the CDAC linux version check
 out http://www.bosslinux.in/

 have never used it so no comments on that

 However on the language front.
 Actually in Ubuntu its quite easy

 The first place to choose is right at setup - where Ubuntu allows you
 to choose installation in the n number of languages (am not sre how
 many) but a fair bit of indian languages are present

  Though i know a couple of Indian languages, i have used the computer only
 in
  English like most if not all on this list and computer users in India in
  general. Though i know Ubuntu and a lot of other Linux OS's support use
 of
  Indian languages, I frankly have no Idea how to use it and to what extent
 is
  it developed.
 
 am snipping the rest of your post and will run through the mainpoints

 To install and enable additional Language support go to
 System - Administration - Language Support and go to the install /
 remove languages and then just select any (or many) of the languages
 you want and then proceed with install. After the installation is
 successful (am not sure if a reboot is required) then you will be able
 to choose your login language at the time of login.

 Thats it you are ready to रोक एण्ड़ रोल

 ***
 additional notes are below
 First choosing the language to install is quite easy (as mentioned
 first at the fresh install phase) . This choice by default will enable
 your computer to boot up in your preferred language of choice, However
 this is not final at any stage later on you can install any (repeat
 any) and any number of other languages and the the login in time one
 can choose which language to boot into (as far as i know in windows
 one must buy separate versions for different languages)

 In most of the supported languages the basic software that comes the
 menu's and interface are  much translated into the language you may
 have chosen. However not all the software has every thing translated.

 Depending on what your default keyboard choice was (which can wildly
 vary - if you want, from your language of choice) , the OS (Ubuntu)
 will keep that choice irrespective of which language you choose and
 one must choose an additional keyboards (language input) to begin
 typing in a particular language (System - Preferences --Keyboard --
 Layouts)

 In case you have already installed say english language and US english
 keyboard its just a matter of a decent net connection to install the
 additional language packs

 enjoy
 ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Languages on Ubuntu

2010-05-25 Thread Sriranga(77yrsold)
Yes SCIM  - where phonetic keyboard layout for each lang available to
choose. SCIM is installed in ubuntu as default.

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote:

 @Ram: Thanks a ton. That was helpfull. How do we type in Indic Languages on
 a standard keyboard. Do we need to use a overlay on the keyboard to show the
 various charecters or any other way.

 Also whats SCIM, IBUS etc ?

 Regards

 Narendra Diwate




 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 23:12, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Narendra Diwate
 narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:
  The posts over the past few days and a TV advert for the Indian version
 of
  Linux named BOSS have prompted me to write this query.
 
 BOSS has been around for some time its the CDAC linux version check
 out http://www.bosslinux.in/

 have never used it so no comments on that

 However on the language front.
 Actually in Ubuntu its quite easy

 The first place to choose is right at setup - where Ubuntu allows you
 to choose installation in the n number of languages (am not sre how
 many) but a fair bit of indian languages are present

  Though i know a couple of Indian languages, i have used the computer
 only in
  English like most if not all on this list and computer users in India in
  general. Though i know Ubuntu and a lot of other Linux OS's support use
 of
  Indian languages, I frankly have no Idea how to use it and to what
 extent is
  it developed.
 
 am snipping the rest of your post and will run through the mainpoints

 To install and enable additional Language support go to
 System - Administration - Language Support and go to the install /
 remove languages and then just select any (or many) of the languages
 you want and then proceed with install. After the installation is
 successful (am not sure if a reboot is required) then you will be able
 to choose your login language at the time of login.

 Thats it you are ready to रोक एण्ड़ रोल

 ***
 additional notes are below
 First choosing the language to install is quite easy (as mentioned
 first at the fresh install phase) . This choice by default will enable
 your computer to boot up in your preferred language of choice, However
 this is not final at any stage later on you can install any (repeat
 any) and any number of other languages and the the login in time one
 can choose which language to boot into (as far as i know in windows
 one must buy separate versions for different languages)

 In most of the supported languages the basic software that comes the
 menu's and interface are  much translated into the language you may
 have chosen. However not all the software has every thing translated.

 Depending on what your default keyboard choice was (which can wildly
 vary - if you want, from your language of choice) , the OS (Ubuntu)
 will keep that choice irrespective of which language you choose and
 one must choose an additional keyboards (language input) to begin
 typing in a particular language (System - Preferences --Keyboard --
 Layouts)

 In case you have already installed say english language and US english
 keyboard its just a matter of a decent net connection to install the
 additional language packs

 enjoy
 ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Languages on Ubuntu

2010-05-25 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Ram: Thanks a ton. That was helpfull. How do we type in Indic Languages on
 a standard keyboard. Do we need to use a overlay on the keyboard to show the
 various charecters or any other way.

Welcome and glad to be of some help

More Answers
1. Depending on the language you want to type in and the keyboard
options available (some languages may have more than one like Hindi
/Devnagari has Hindi Typewriter, Inscript and Bolnagari Keyboard
Layouts) you could choose to get stickers and stick them on your
keyboard. In my case i use inscript and have made a file that show me
the layout and in the meanwhile have memorized the inscript keyboard
(its quite simple one you begin using it)

If its a desktop there is space on th keys for stickers , on  a laptop
it makes it look cluttered.

(for Inscript keyboard users i can send you the keyboard file as a pdf
- i was supposed to keep in on the Ubunt wiki but have not done so so
till then who ever wants please mail me off line will send it)

Personally i prefer inscript because its intuitive and is far easier
to remember than hindi type writer (and even if you know the type
writer is a matter of a week to unlearn and relearn)


 Also whats SCIM, IBUS etc ?

Have no idea and would also like to know

ram

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[ubuntu-in] Indian Languages on Ubuntu

2010-05-24 Thread Narendra Diwate
The posts over the past few days and a TV advert for the Indian version of
Linux named BOSS http://www.bosslinux.in/ have prompted me to write this
query.

Though i know a couple of Indian languages, i have used the computer only in
English like most if not all on this list and computer users in India in
general. Though i know Ubuntu and a lot of other Linux OS's support use of
Indian languages, I frankly have no Idea how to use it and to what extent is
it developed.

What i would like to know is how (as in what packages to add, configs
changes etc) can i have a completely Indian language (and english) driven
desktop in either Hindi or Telugu. Something right from the login screen to
icons to on screen messages to program help to typing support on a English
keyboard to openoffice and whatever you can think of.

Something that a literate (but not in english ) user be able to use. And
from those that are already using it how easy, intuitive it is and how
accurate are the translations.

At some point may be help in the translations once i am comfortable typing
in hindi. I have seen quite a few programs lacking indian translations.

Your advice will be sincerely appreciated.

Regards

Narendra Diwate
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