Re: [ubuntu-in] Is anyone using Ubuntu Tweak

2011-03-20 Thread Vishnoo
On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 09:27 +0530, Stereotactic wrote:
 
 Is Ubuntu Tweak really required?

It's not really required, most of it is available via gconf-editor.


  Why not ship with the enhancements 
 built in?

AFAIK, most of the enhancements are available by default. You don't
really need Ubuntu tweak, it just gives an easier/prettier GUI.

Or Do you mean include Ubuntu tweak by default?
If you want to know more about why including is not good, there was a
huge discussion why not to use Ubuntu tweak and why it might be harmful
to a new user in the Ubuntu-MOTU mailing list. (IIRC, The discussion was
within the last year, You could check out the archives.)

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Is anyone using Ubuntu Tweak

2011-03-20 Thread Nigel Babu
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Or Do you mean include Ubuntu tweak by default?
 If you want to know more about why including is not good, there was a
 huge discussion why not to use Ubuntu tweak and why it might be harmful
 to a new user in the Ubuntu-MOTU mailing list. (IIRC, The discussion was
 within the last year, You could check out the archives.)


https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2010-August/thread.html

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2010-August/thread.htmlThe
fun discussion from the last cycle.

Cheers
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Is anyone using Ubuntu Tweak

2011-03-20 Thread Stereotactic



On 03/20/2011 01:17 PM, Nigel Babu wrote:
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com 
mailto:v...@ubuntu.com wrote:

SNIPPED
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2010-August/thread.html

The fun discussion from the last cycle.

Oh, very informative! Thats why Ubuntu developers are not very keen with 
the idea of anything that improves Ubuntu. One more thing. If you look 
closely, their only argument against Ubuntu Tweak is lack of security. 
So be it. People more knowledgeable than me are better placed than me to 
comment on the same.

Cheers
Nigel

Thanks Nigel.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Is anyone using Ubuntu Tweak

2011-03-20 Thread Manish Sinha

On 03/20/2011 08:45 PM, Stereotactic wrote:

Oh, very informative! Thats why Ubuntu developers are not very keen with
the idea of anything that improves Ubuntu. One more thing. If you look
closely, their only argument against Ubuntu Tweak is lack of security.
So be it. People more knowledgeable than me are better placed than me to
comment on the same.



Not on lack of security but posing a security risk. As Scott
Kitterman mentions that it adds a bunch ofthird-party untrusted repos.
This is a bad move to have a package in official repo which adds
untrusted repos.

It is not that Ubutnu devs don't want to improve Ubuntu, but there
needs a line to be drawn. Ubuntu Tweak exposes a few features which
should be *mostly* hidden from non-technical users. If something
goes wrong, then they wont be able to guess what actually happened.

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[ubuntu-in] Is anyone using Ubuntu Tweak

2011-03-19 Thread Stereotactic
It seems to remind me of Automatix, the all (in) famous script that 
automated everything.


Is Ubuntu Tweak really required? Why not ship with the enhancements 
built in?


For newbies, Linux Mint has improved on the user interface to a large 
extent. Their package management has become better with Linux Mint 10.


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